Are Democracy & Islam Compatible?

bhkad · 06-04-08, 06:38 PM

Are Democracy & Islam Compatible?

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Thus those who claim that Islam is compatible with democracy should know that they are not flattering Muslims.

In fact, most Muslims would feel insulted by such assertions.

AMIR TAHERI'S REMARKS AT DEBATE "ISLAM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH DEMOCRACY" - Amir Taheri - Benador Associates

I say they are not compatible.

CMartucci · 06-04-08, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

Are Democracy & Islam Compatible?

AMIR TAHERI'S REMARKS AT DEBATE "ISLAM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH DEMOCRACY" - Amir Taheri - Benador Associates

I say they are not compatible.

I think you are working off of the false assumption that democracy in general is democracy in America. If we assume that democracy leads to a copy of America over time, then no, for Islam decries modern American culture.

winston53660 · 06-04-08, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

Are Democracy & Islam Compatible?

AMIR TAHERI'S REMARKS AT DEBATE "ISLAM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH DEMOCRACY" - Amir Taheri - Benador Associates

I say they are not compatible.

I wonder if freedom and bhkad are compatible?

Doc Howl · 06-04-08, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

Are Democracy & Islam Compatible?

AMIR TAHERI'S REMARKS AT DEBATE "ISLAM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH DEMOCRACY" - Amir Taheri - Benador Associates

I say they are not compatible.

Then what are we doing in Iraq, again?

bhkad · 06-04-08, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CMartucci

I think you are working off of the false assumption that democracy in general is democracy in America. If we assume that democracy leads to a copy of America over time, then no, for Islam decries modern American culture.

Ah, so you would have us believe that the reason behind the Islamic mandate to expand and dominate the world is directly because of the United States?

Well, sorry to poke a hole in your theory but the injunctions to achieve leadership over all of mankind pre-dates the Constitution or the Declaration. It even pre-dates the Magna Carta.

By the year 650 A.D. (after the death of the Prophet Muhammad in 632), his followers were on the move and practicing the principles of the Koran.

The following establishes the existence of the Koran in book form centuries before the United States existed.

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In about 650, as Islam expanded beyond the Arabian peninsula into Persia, the Levant and North Africa, the third caliph Uthman ibn Affan ordered the preparation of an official, standardized version, in order to preserve the sanctity of the text (and perhaps to keep the Rashidun Empire united). Five of the reciters from amongst the companions produced a unique text from the first volume which had been prepared on the orders of Abu Bakr and which was kept with Hafsa bint Umar. The other copies already in the hands of Muslims in other areas were collected and sent to Medina where, on orders of the Caliph, they were destroyed by burning or boiling. This remains the authoritative text of the Qur’an to this day.

Qur'an - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The principles which make Islam incompatible with Democracy existed before the United States and exist apart from the United States. Those Islamic principles are in opposition to every liberal Democracy.

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But the bottom line is that no Islamic government can be democratic in the sense of allowing the common people equal shares in legislation.

Islam divides human activities into five categories from the permitted to the sinful, leaving little room for human interpretation, let alone ethical innovations.

What we must understand is that Islam has its own vision of the world and man's place in it.

To say that Islam is incompatible with democracy should not be seen as a disparagement of Islam.

On the contrary, many Muslims would see it as a compliment because they sincerely believe that their idea of rule by God is superior to that of rule by men which is democracy.

AMIR TAHERI'S REMARKS AT DEBATE "ISLAM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH DEMOCRACY" - Amir Taheri - Benador Associates

bhkad · 06-04-08, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by winston53660

I wonder if freedom and bhkad are compatible?

I wonder if you are ever serious.

bhkad · 06-04-08, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc Howl

Then what are we doing in Iraq, again?

Same thing we were doing the last time anyone asked.

Doc Howl · 06-04-08, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

Same thing we were doing the last time anyone asked.

Bringing democracy to them?

That's what Bush and his pals say we're doing.

bhkad · 06-04-08, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc Howl

Bringing democracy to them?

That's what Bush and his pals say we're doing.

The system of Islam must not be allowed to control the government. The practice of Islam as a religion must be protected as a individual personal right as other secular rights are protected in a liberal Democracy.

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Muslims can build democratic society provided they treat Islam as a matter of personal, private belief and not as a political ideology that seeks to monopolise the public space and regulate every aspect of individual and community life.

Ladies and gentlemen: Islam is incompatible with democracy.

AMIR TAHERI'S REMARKS AT DEBATE "ISLAM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH DEMOCRACY" - Amir Taheri - Benador Associates