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It's Philadelphia and PA has very permissive gun laws
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Originally Posted by new coup for you It's Philadelphia and PA has very permissive gun laws | The latest figures I can find for that particular city is 400 homicides TOTAL in the year 2006.
I guess I can ignore whatever you have to say from here on out. Thanks for making that so easy.
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Originally Posted by Lachean Grew up in DC and currently live in Baltimore, so I'd love to hear whatever he has to say if it is either city. | My wife graduated from a Baltimore college several years ago, and during her stay there I heard or read some snippet somewhere that complained that there was approximately 1 homicide per day in that neck of the woods.
As for DC, it DID get about that bad back in the early 90s, and that's an impression that has stuck with me.
Hence why I guessed.
About 30 seconds of research tell me that better guesses would've included LA, Chicago, and NYC. |
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Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan My wife graduated from a Baltimore college several years ago, and during her stay there I heard or read some snippet somewhere that complained that there was approximately 1 homicide per day in that neck of the woods. | Well, depending on what part of Baltimore you're talking about, most homicides are drug related. To which I credit the death to the war on drugs, and not on guns.
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Originally Posted by new coup for you It's Philadelphia and PA has very permissive gun laws |
Yes, PA does - for now. Gov. Rendell would like to change that.
Here is a Philly article that supports the idea that in order to control crime, you need to control criminals, not guns: What if the Gun Nuts are Right? |
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Originally Posted by Lachean Well, depending on what part of Baltimore you're talking about, most homicides are drug related. To which I credit the death to the war on drugs, and not on guns. | If by "War on Drugs" you mean "artificial inflation of perceived street value for the purposes of more profitable resale," then yeah, with you there.  |
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Originally Posted by Lachean Well, depending on what part of Baltimore you're talking about, most homicides are drug related. To which I credit the death to the war on drugs, and not on guns. | I've done a lot of thinking on the war on drugs and have come to the conclusion that it can't be won, solely for the fact that it is a war on basic economics. If there is a supply there must exist a demand, and vice-versa, therefore, the natural laws of economic trump the created laws of man in this instance. I guess I got a little long-winded, but it was basically to get around to the overall point that some people don't understand that there is no gun problem in the U.S. There is an overall crime problem that should be adressed first and foremost, the tools used in violent crime are truly irrelevant, stopping the mentality or criminals is needed, not arms control.
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Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan If by "War on Drugs" you mean "artificial inflation of perceived street value for the purposes of more profitable resale," then yeah, with you there.  | Welcome to the forum. The last time prohibition was tried the exact same thing happened, so I don't know why politicians and our fellow citizens are expecting the different results. What we need in this country is reasonable control methods to enhance public safety and awareness of drugs and not an outright prohibition, which seems to always lead to increases in crime and unnatural price inflation due to the black market. |
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Originally Posted by LaMidRighter Welcome to the forum. The last time prohibition was tried the exact same thing happened, so I don't know why politicians and our fellow citizens are expecting the different results. What we need in this country is reasonable control methods to enhance public safety and awareness of drugs and not an outright prohibition, which seems to always lead to increases in crime and unnatural price inflation due to the black market. | I'll tell you what I tell everybody else when they ask "why" the government does anything:
The United States of America has been retooled for maximum profitability. Everything the government does is done for one of two reasons:
1) To increase the influence of the government
2) To generate profit
That's it. The government does nothing else aside from get its fingers into more pies and make money for itself and its allies. |
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Originally Posted by LaMidRighter Welcome to the forum. | Oh, and thanks.  |
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