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Old 06-02-08, 12:25 PM   #201 (permalink)
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What's wrong with the Brady Bill?
A right delayed is a right denied, or so I am told.

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I'm in favor of shotguns, even concealed handguns, but I still haven't heard a good argument for the need to own an assault weapon.
"Assault weapons" are -exactly- the sort of weapons the 2nd was intended to protect.
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Old 06-03-08, 08:58 AM   #202 (permalink)
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I'm in favor of shotguns, even concealed handguns, but I still haven't heard a good argument for the need to own an assault weapon.

Sometimes a bigger hammer is needed.



Besides the facts:

1. they are fun

2. they are nothing but cosmetically different than non "assault weapons" not functionally.

Let's start there.
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Many of the drugs that come to this country come from other countries, drug sales is one of the biggest sources of income for terrorist organizations. Besides how can you compare "weed" to "guns." You cant say there will ever be time were you will need weed, historically guns won our freedom. If it wasnt for the easy accessablity of guns could we have made a real war against the British for our Freedom. And I honestly believe it is only a matter of time before we fight a war on our own land. It is possible, but it will be awhile before that happens.

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Old 06-03-08, 09:10 PM   #204 (permalink)
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Many of the drugs that come to this country come from other countries, drug sales is one of the biggest sources of income for terrorist organizations. Besides how can you compare "weed" to "guns." You cant say there will ever be time were you will need weed, historically guns won our freedom. If it wasnt for the easy accessablity of guns could we have made a real war against the British for our Freedom. And I honestly believe it is only a matter of time before we fight a war on our own land. It is possible, but it will be awhile before that happens.
I never claimed drugs = weed. I claimed that there are many similarities between the reasons people dislike guns and the reasons people dislike weed; mainly ignorance due to propaganda and disinformation perpetuated by those with ulterior or faulty motives.

The war on drugs is the SOLE reason for the money generated by black market drug sales. Look at prohibition if you need an example. Organized crime made millions and flourished because of the black market prohibition created.
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Because those potheads are the same people who want a govt handout when they lose their jobs, or want free healthcare when they get lung cancer. They aren't just satisfied to die based on their freedom of choice.
You want a government handout when you lose your job, exactly as much.

You want free healthcare when you're sick, exactly as much.

BTW, studies show long term pot smokers are employed at a higher rate than the citizenry at large, so the basis of your claims is bunk.

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You want a government handout when you lose your job, exactly as much.

You want free healthcare when you're sick, exactly as much.
I for one don't want either. But this is not why I responded here.



BTW, studies show lonf term pot smokers are employed at a higher rate than the citizenry at large, so the basis of your claims is bunk.[/quote]



Prove this.
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They need the money to afford the pot long term.

I'll look into it, but, can you prove the converse ?

Seems to be some assumptions made on this thread that the converses is true, yet I've seen noone request proof of that.
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They need the money to afford the pot long term.
I don't see how this is relevant or even applicable without evidence.



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I'll look into it, but, can you prove the converse ?
No but I never made the claim.

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Seems to be some assumptions made on this thread that the converses is true, yet I've seen noone request proof of that.

You made a claim. I am asking you to prove this.
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Well, remember, that the "citizenry at large" in cludes a huge lump of minors, and also a huge chunk of seniors, both of whom do not regularly work.

I recall reading a study that said pot smokers were employed more but I cannot "refind" it as fast as I had hoped.

Oh well, who gives a **** what squares say about pot anyway ?

I probably wouldn't buy the claims made by square researchers anyway, as they have a vested interest in portraying it as bad, while they slurp on the tit of a government makin money hand over fist on tobacco and alcohol taxes.

You can root for Rosco all you want, I'm on uncle Jesse's side.

My personal experience with potsmokers is that they almost always have jobs, so why would I listen to some square with a political axe to grind ??

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Well, remember, that the "citizenry at large" in cludes a huge lump of minors, and also a huge chunk of seniors, both of whom do not regularly work.

I recall reading a study that said pot smokers were employed more but I cannot "refind" it as fast as I had hoped.

Oh well, who gives a **** what squares say about pot anyway ?

I probably wouldn't buy the claims made by square researchers anyway, as they have a vested interest in portraying it as bad, while they slurp on the tit of a government makin money hand over fist on tobacco and alcohol taxes.

You can root for Rosco all you want, I'm on uncle Jesse's side.

My personal experience with potsmokers is that they almost always have jobs, so why would I listen to some square with a political axe to grind ??

What does being square have to do with anything?

Are you square for following the law?

This website has interesting insight InfoFacts - Marijuana

Marijuana Use - Heavy Marijuana Use Affects Learning, Social Skills


Both of these sight express how weed as a negative impact on the smokers mental and physical well being. To say, cancer, and self esteem issues. They also say out of the people who are employed users they have more accidents and are more likely to be tardy and to preform under the norm.

You claim that more pot smokers of jobs as a whole, well, someone has to work at Burger King. Honestly, just because you have a job doesnt really mean anything. Because if you work at BK as a cook, then you really arent proving that weed isnt hurting you ability to contribute. I guess if it shows anything, it shows the lack of drive, and proves by most peoples standards of being a "failure." But, any job is better then no job. Im really interested in the support for your claim of the Job claim.
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