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Old 06-06-09, 12:05 AM   #1
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Taking bets! Feds vs States

If anyone follows the Glenn Beck program and recent news...

Several states are inacting legislation which says that in their state that the federal government cannot regulate firearms that are made in their state and remain in their state. I believe this is a precursor for things to come, but back on topic.

On todays show they had a 10th amendment expert on the show and he stated that he believed the federal court will squash these states rights by expanding the right of federal regulation into "anything that may interfere with interstate trade". So the federal government may say that guns can be considered a tool to commit a crime that interferes with interstate trade.

I feel he may be right. I do not see the federal government relinquishing any of the power it has taken. I think the federal government will once again overstep their power in its quest to gain more power.

What do you think? And will states continue to try and take back their rightful powers?
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Re: Taking bets! Feds vs States

There has been no such thing as state's rights since the Civil War.
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What do you think? And will states continue to try and take back their rightful powers?
States have only the powers the national government allows them. See Article VI of the U. S. Constitution.
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States have only the powers the national government allows them. See Article VI of the U. S. Constitution.
10th amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

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10th amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

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The Tenth Amendment reserves all power to the People. Any time the People wish, they can order their creature, the U. S. government, to do anything they wish.
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The Tenth Amendment reserves all power to the People. Any time the People wish, they can order their creature, the U. S. government, to do anything they wish.
So let's just ignore any mention of the states there.

Look at that phrase "nor prohibited by it to the States" and tell me what it means.

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States have only the powers the national government allows them. See Article VI of the U. S. Constitution.
What a statement.

This is one reason why EU federalism must be fought.
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The Tenth Amendment reserves all power to the People. Any time the People wish, they can order their creature, the U. S. government, to do anything they wish.
The people live in the states however. They are not atoms. The states are historic bodies with something of the position of at least quasi-sovereign entities. To ignore that is to ignore the way the constitution was set up and its history. Only those rights the federal gov't is bound to protect are to be settled outside the people gathered in their states.
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Re: Taking bets! Feds vs States

Originaly it was local > State > Federal, but over the decades the federal government has continously taken more and more power so we have just the opposit Federal > State > Local. We need to fix this before its to late!
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So let's just ignore any mention of the states there.

Look at that phrase "nor prohibited by it to the States" and tell me what it means.
The phrase means states have some powers.

The problem is, they're not listed. That means the national government can claim or deny any power it wishes and no one would be able to say the it was outside its authority.
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