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    Re: Understanding the Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Great video that explains its purpose and why it's necessary.

    education is an important thing

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    Re: Understanding the Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by Master PO View Post
    education is an important thing
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    Re: Understanding the Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Why should I trust the electoral college? They ain't played nobody good. A middle-of-the-road SEC team would kick their ass.
    Why should you trust the guy that counts your vote. I might just have slipped him a $20 to change it to Trump.
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    Re: Understanding the Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by legalimmigrant View Post
    Educational.

    Who elects Electoral College electors?

    What guarantees are there that they are not as corrupt as the rest of the political whores?

    If they don't vote as expected based on the state November elections, what is the remedy and the punishment?
    There are only a handful of cases in the last couple of hundred years where electors didn't vote in line with what the people wanted. In half of those cases it was because the candidate they were sworn to had died. In no case was the outcome of the election affected.

    The electoral is an anachronism. It made sense when the states actually mattered. They don't. Even worse the electoral college system, more specifically the winner-take-all aspect of the EC system that most states implement, make most states largely irrelevant and the election decided in the "battleground states." That effectively disenfranchises a significant amount of the populace.

    We should either go to a popular vote system or a system where states apportion their EC votes based on the popular vote in the state.
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    Re: Understanding the Electoral College

    Gov 101. Representation based on LAND and POPULATION, not just population, is what the important stuff in this video really boils down to.
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    Re: Understanding the Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    There are only a handful of cases in the last couple of hundred years where electors didn't vote in line with what the people wanted. In half of those cases it was because the candidate they were sworn to had died. In no case was the outcome of the election affected.

    The electoral is an anachronism. It made sense when the states actually mattered. They don't. Even worse the electoral college system, more specifically the winner-take-all aspect of the EC system that most states implement, make most states largely irrelevant and the election decided in the "battleground states." That effectively disenfranchises a significant amount of the populace.

    We should either go to a popular vote system or a system where states apportion their EC votes based on the popular vote in the state.
    If the people are willing to call for a constitutional amendment, such a thing could be done.
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    Re: Understanding the Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Several reasons, which may or may not have been legitimate at the time but don't really have much validation now.

    Here's a good article on it: Election 2016: Why Do We Vote On Tuesdays? : NPR

    As for why we still do it? Tradition, I guess.
    Well, we're all entitled to our own opinions that's for sure. I'd reckon that if the American populace really did feel that the electoral college was an antiquated system, a movement for a constitutional amendment rectifying such an issue would have sprung up by now. On the other hand, maybe a huge chunk of people are just too stupid to understand the electoral college and so what they don't know they don't bother complaining about.
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    Re: Understanding the Electoral College

    The electoral college isn't going anywheres.

    Give it up already.

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    Re: Understanding the Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    There are only a handful of cases in the last couple of hundred years where electors didn't vote in line with what the people wanted. In half of those cases it was because the candidate they were sworn to had died. In no case was the outcome of the election affected.

    The electoral is an anachronism. It made sense when the states actually mattered. They don't. Even worse the electoral college system, more specifically the winner-take-all aspect of the EC system that most states implement, make most states largely irrelevant and the election decided in the "battleground states." That effectively disenfranchises a significant amount of the populace.

    We should either go to a popular vote system or a system where states apportion their EC votes based on the popular vote in the state.
    I'd rather a system where states apportion their EC votes based on the vote within the state (which I assume is another way of saying take down the "winner-takes-all" system in some of these states in favor of a system where EC votes can potentially go to numerous different candidates based on the outcome of the vote in each state). A direct democracy doesn't seem attractive to me for many of the same reasons it wasn't attractive to the founding fathers.
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    Re: Understanding the Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why should you trust the guy that counts your vote. I might just have slipped him a $20 to change it to Trump.
    Dammit, because Hillary would have won if we didn't have the stupid electoral college!!!!!!!!!!
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