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The Powers of Government ...

Removable Mind said:
No need to do that, you can come and hang out at our compound. My wife and I have made it comply. Its not in the desert, well, unless one considers the Texas Hill County a desert. And I will promise that neither Clinton or Trump will be allowed in. And you won't have to speak French!
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Lafayette said:
You must be a good cook.

You know how to mix-up everything.

Over and outta here ...
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I have an alternative and more rational explanation. You spout B.S., divert attention away from your B.S. when someone calls you on your B.S. with more B.S., and delude yourself into thinking you've made some grand, logical argument.

You've scapegoated free speech and in the process of doing so invoked some bull crap, non-existent phenomenon of police shooting and killing kids because the kids engaged in character assassination. Blame yourself for you non-sense.
 
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Government clearly has the power;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
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The militia is a land force and does not resort to natural rights, but the security needs of a State or our Republic.

Natural rights may be denied and disparaged, by well regulated militia of the People when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.
 
Lafayette said:
You kept saying that libel and slander were not against the law.

They are not against criminal law, but you can sue for reparations to your "person".

The point is minor.

M... r... a...
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I made the point libel and slander were not criminal and should not be criminal and I also said one could be sued libel and slander. I said previously, "The definition of "character assassination" in your post is not criminal in the United States, and rightfully so, as I am not inclined to think someone, anyone, should be charged with a crime and risk a loss of freedom because of "character assassination." However, the definition of "character assassination" in your post is not lawful in the U.S. in the sense one can be sued.

I do not need you to repeat a point to me I already made in prior posts. Wake up!

You kept saying that libel and slander were not against the law.
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No. Incorrect. I did not make this comment. What I in fact did say was, "The definition of "character assassination" in your post is not criminal in the United States, and rightfully so, as I am not inclined to think someone, anyone, should be charged with a crime and risk a loss of freedom because of "character assassination."

However, the definition of "character assassination" in your post is not lawful in the U.S. in the sense one can be sued.

Comprende? Just in case, I said libel and slander were not "criminal," which is not the same as saying both "were not against the law."
 
danielpalos said:
Government clearly has the power;



The militia is a land force and does not resort to natural rights, but the security needs of a State or our Republic.

Natural rights may be denied and disparaged, by well regulated militia of the People when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union.
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:doh.....
 
Master PO said:
:doh.....
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nothing but fallacy? why take a master's name, in vain. vainglory.

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Land and naval forces are not about, natural rights.

Only the fantastical right wing, with nothing but fallacy for their Cause, believes differently.
 
danielpalos said:
nothing but fallacy? why take a master's name, in vain. vainglory.

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Land and naval forces are not about, natural rights.

Only the fantastical right wing, with nothing but fallacy for their Cause, believes differently.
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its called the militia act..
 
danielpalos said:
To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

that means, government gun control over the militia.
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wrong, it means the federal government can created laws for uniformity of the militias of the states.

no way... the states would give the federal government power over the militias to control them.

try reading the militia acts
 
Master PO said:
wrong, it means the federal government can created laws for uniformity of the militias of the states.

no way... the states would give the federal government power over the militias to control them.

try reading the militia acts
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the militia is a land force.

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

that means, government gun control over the militia.

There are no natural rights in the militia acts.
 
danielpalos said:
that means, government gun control over the militia.
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be found wrong again!



Master PO said:
wrong, it means the federal government can created laws for uniformity of the militias of the states.


no way... the states would give the federal government power over the militias to control them.


try reading the militia acts
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Master PO said:
Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15



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Alexander Hamilton, Federalist, no. 29, 181--87


It requires no skill in the science of war to discern that uniformity in the organization and discipline of the militia would be attended with the most beneficial effects, whenever they were called into service for the public defence. It would enable them to discharge the duties of the camp and of the field with mutual intelligence and concert; an advantage of peculiar moment in the operations of an army: And it would fit them much sooner to acquire the degree of proficiency in military functions, which would be essential to their usefulness. This desirable uniformity can only be accomplished by confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority. It is therefore with the most evident propriety that the plan of the Convention proposes to empower the union "to provide for organizing, arming and disciplining the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively the appointment of the officers and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress."
Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15: Alexander Hamilton, Federalist, no. 29, 181--87
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The Militia Act of 1792, Passed May 8, 1792, providing federal standards for the organization of the Militia.

An ACT more effectually to provide for the National Defence, by establishing an Uniform Militia throughout the United States. which is administered by the state governments.


providing federal standards = uniformity

The Militia Act of 1792

III. And be it further enacted, That within one year after the passing of the Act, the militia of the respective states shall be arranged into divisions, brigades, regiments, battalions, and companies, as the legislature of each state shall direct;
 
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The militia is a land force.

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

that means, government gun control over the militia.

There are no natural rights in the militia acts.

why be so clueless and so Causeless

This desirable uniformity can only be accomplished by confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority.
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danielpalos said:
The militia is a land force.

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

that means, government gun control over the militia.

There are no natural rights in the militia acts.

why be so clueless and so Causeless
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didn't quote me... i see

i already posted the federal government creates uniformity...boy are you late!

militia act 1792

III. And be it further enacted, That within one year after the passing of the Act, the militia of the respective states shall be arranged into divisions, brigades, regiments, battalions, and companies, as the legislature of each state shall direct;

no natural rights discussed ....a deflection on your part!
 
Master PO said:
didn't quote me... i see

i already posted the federal government creates uniformity...boy are you late!

militia act 1792

III. And be it further enacted, That within one year after the passing of the Act, the militia of the respective states shall be arranged into divisions, brigades, regiments, battalions, and companies, as the legislature of each state shall direct;

no natural rights discussed ....a deflection on your part!
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why be so clueless and so Causeless

This desirable uniformity can only be accomplished by confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority.
 
danielpalos said:
why be so clueless and so Causeless

This desirable uniformity can only be accomplished by confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority.
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NO KIDDING, ALREADY POSTED!

The Militia Act of 1792, Passed May 8, 1792, providing federal standards for the organization of the Militia.

An ACT more effectually to provide for the National Defence, by establishing an Uniform Militia throughout the United States. which is administered by the state governments.


providing federal standards = uniformity

The Militia Act of 1792

III. And be it further enacted, That within one year after the passing of the Act, the militia of the respective states shall be arranged into divisions, brigades, regiments, battalions, and companies, as the legislature of each state shall direct;
 
Master PO said:
NO KIDDING, ALREADY POSTED!

The Militia Act of 1792, Passed May 8, 1792, providing federal standards for the organization of the Militia.

An ACT more effectually to provide for the National Defence, by establishing an Uniform Militia throughout the United States. which is administered by the state governments.


providing federal standards = uniformity

The Militia Act of 1792

III. And be it further enacted, That within one year after the passing of the Act, the militia of the respective states shall be arranged into divisions, brigades, regiments, battalions, and companies, as the legislature of each state shall direct;
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The militia is a land force.

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

that means, government gun control over the militia.

why be so clueless and so Causeless
 
danielpalos said:
that means, government gun control over the militia.
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wrong, the militia act sets a standard of what the minimum requirement is.

the federal government does not administer the militia act in times of peace, the state governments do...read your militia act.
 
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To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

that means, government gun control over the militia.

Master PO said:
wrong, the militia act sets a standard of what the minimum requirement is.

the federal government does not administer the militia act in times of peace, the state governments do...read your militia act.
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wrong; that is government control, not private control nor State control.
 
danielpalos said:
To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

that means, government gun control over the militia.



wrong; that is government control, not private control nor State control.
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nope!.....the state shall administer the militia act in times of peace, when the militia is "employed in the service of the u.s." then the federal government has full authority.

you need to read your militia acts

1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia, by the Captain or Commanding Officer of the company, within whose bounds such citizen shall reside, and that within twelve months after the passing of this Act. And it shall at all time hereafter be the duty of every such Captain or Commanding Officer of a company, to enroll every such citizen as aforesaid, and also those who shall, from time to time, arrive at the age of 18 years, or being at the age of 18 years, and under the age of 45 years (except as before excepted) shall come to reside within his bounds; and shall without delay notify such citizen of the said enrollment, by the proper non-commissioned Officer of the company, by whom such notice may be proved. That every citizen, so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt, two spare flints, and a knapsack, a pouch, with a box therein, to contain not less than twenty four cartridges, suited to the bore of his musket or firelock, each cartridge to contain a proper quantity of powder and ball; or with a good rifle, knapsack, shot-pouch, and powder-horn, twenty balls suited to the bore of his rifle, and a quarter of a pound of powder; and shall appear so armed, accoutred and provided, when called out to exercise or into service, except, that when called out on company days to exercise only, he may appear without a knapsack. That the commissioned Officers shall severally be armed with a sword or hanger, and espontoon; and that from and after five years from the passing of this Act, all muskets from arming the militia as is herein required, shall be of bores sufficient for balls of the eighteenth part of a pound; and every citizen so enrolled, and providing himself with the arms, ammunition and accoutrements, required as aforesaid, shall hold the same exempted from all suits, distresses, executions or sales, for debt or for the payment of taxes.
 
Master PO said:
nope!.....the state shall administer the militia act in times of peace, when the militia is "employed in the service of the u.s." then the federal government has full authority.

you need to read your militia acts
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government control means there no private groups of militia; only posse, unrecognized by their Sheriff.
 
danielpalos said:
government control means there no private groups of militia; only posse, unrecognized by their Sheriff.
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militias are under state authority, until the state gives their permission for the federal government to use it.

Militia Act of 1792

That whenever the United States shall be invaded, or be in imminent danger of invasion from any foreign nation or Indian tribe, it shall be lawful for the President of the United States, to call forth such number of the militia of the state or states most convenient to the place of danger or scene of action as he may judge necessary to repel such invasion, and to issue his orders for that purpose, to such officer or officers of the militia as he shall think proper; and in case of an insurrection in any state, against the government thereof, it shall be lawful for the President of the United States, on application of the legislature of such state, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) to call forth such number of the militia of any other state or states, as may be applied for, or as he may judge sufficient to suppress such insurrection.

the federal government has no authority to control state militias, unless the states give their OK...or a judge, which was changed in the 1795 militia act to only the legislature
 
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Master PO said:
militias are under state authority, until the state gives their permission for the federal government to use it.

Militia Act of 1792

That whenever the United States shall be invaded, or be in imminent danger of invasion from any foreign nation or Indian tribe, it shall be lawful for the President of the United States, to call forth such number of the militia of the state or states most convenient to the place of danger or scene of action as he may judge necessary to repel such invasion, and to issue his orders for that purpose, to such officer or officers of the militia as he shall think proper; and in case of an insurrection in any state, against the government thereof, it shall be lawful for the President of the United States, on application of the legislature of such state, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) to call forth such number of the militia of any other state or states, as may be applied for, or as he may judge sufficient to suppress such insurrection.

the federal government has no authority to control state militias, unless the states give their OK...or a judge, which was changed in the 1795 militia act to only the legislature
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To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

that means, government gun control over the militia. (State government or federal government)

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;



government control means there no private groups of militia; only posse, unrecognized by their Sheriff.
 
Better aqueducts, better roads, and more well regulated militia is a power of Government.

Should we ask Kentucky Colonels for leadership advice?
 
danielpalos said:
To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

that means, government gun control over the militia. (State government or federal government)

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;



government control means there no private groups of militia; only posse, unrecognized by their Sheriff.
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you can continue to post the same thing over and over, but you will still be wrong.
 
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