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    Re: The Powers of Government ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    And what do you mean "our rights " ?? YOU LIVE IN FRANCE.
    Where I live is nobody's business but mine. I sent my ballot vote off this week to the states.

    I have as much right to discuss politics in America as you do! And I likely have more good sense than you, because democracy has come a long way since 1786. It was WW2 that gave Europe the opportunity to redefine it in Progressive Terms and call it Social Democracy.

    Progressive political thinking had a brief life in the first half of the 20th century with Teddy Roosevelt who created the Progressive Party to support his bid for the presidential election of 2013. He lost that vote - and what should have become the Democrat Party was lost in history as well.

    What remains is the Congressional Progressive Caucus in the HofR, with their Progressive Promise.

    But, you are not to worry - the CPC has only a minority representation in Congress. And only one member from the Senate - a guy by the name of Bernie Sanders.

    Which should show all of us how very far we have to go towards reinventing America ...

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    Re: The Powers of Government ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lafayette View Post
    Where I live is nobody's business but mine. I sent my ballot vote off this week to the states.

    I have as much right to discuss politics in America as you do! And I likely have more good sense than you, because democracy has come a long way since 1786. It was WW2 that gave Europe the opportunity to redefine it in Progressive Terms and call it Social Democracy.

    Progressive political thinking had a brief life in the first half of the 20th century with Teddy Roosevelt who created the Progressive Party to support his bid for the presidential election of 2013. He lost that vote - and what should have become the Democrat Party was lost in history as well.

    What remains is the Congressional Progressive Caucus in the HofR, with their Progressive Promise.

    But, you are not to worry - the CPC has only a minority representation in Congress. And only one member from the Senate - a guy by the name of Bernie Sanders.

    Which should show all of us how very far we have to go towards reinventing America ...

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    Where you live is absolutey relevent considering that you would be insulated from the consequences of your short sighted and destructive policy suggestions.

    You have no " skin in the game " so to speak and you have idea what your'e talking about in the first place.

    Its like people like you are physiologically limited to superficial contemplation. Like you couldn't if your life depended on it think through to the ultimate consequneces of the crap you preach.

    Thankfully our Framers knew there would be like you and wrote a very difficult ammendment process into the Constituion.
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    Re: The Powers of Government ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Where you live is absolutey relevent considering that you would be insulated from the consequences of your short sighted and destructive policy suggestions.

    You have no " skin in the game " so to speak and you have idea what your'e talking about in the first place.

    Its like people like you are physiologically limited to superficial contemplation. Like you couldn't if your life depended on it think through to the ultimate consequneces of the crap you preach.

    Thankfully our Framers knew there would be like you and wrote a very difficult ammendment process into the Constituion.
    Pure, unadulterated blather.

    I'm done with you ...
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    Re: The Powers of Government ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lafayette View Post
    And anyone with an "eye" for Social Democracy will say that the US is one of the most inequitable and unfair nations on earth.

    Whyzzat?
    Because they're working from anti-liberty definitions of the words "equitable" and "fair."
    If you feel a need to "reinterpret" the Constitution, you must know that what you want to do is unconstitutional.
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    Re: The Powers of Government ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lafayette View Post
    Pure, unadulterated blather.

    I'm done with you ...
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    Re: The Powers of Government ...

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Who will you be voting for?
    Santa Claus ...
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    Re: The Powers of Government ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Because they're working from anti-liberty definitions of the words "equitable" and "fair."
    Puh-leez, enough of the "liberty" BS!

    There are 510 million people living in the EU under a Social Democracy and they labor no less free than the 323 million Americans in the US.

    I've lived around Europe since transferred here to work from the states in the 1970s. My children have university degrees that cost me more room 'n board than tuition (about 900€ a year). I have a first-class National HealthCare System that is half the cost per capita of the US entirely government subsidized, and with a longer lifespan as well. See here:
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    And I have a selection of excellent French wines to boot ...
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    Re: The Powers of Government ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lafayette View Post
    Puh-leez, enough of the "liberty" BS!
    I find it . . . well, many things, I guess, including hilarious, that the modern "progressive" left is getting more and more open about its contempt for liberty.


    There are 510 million people living in the EU under a Social Democracy and they feel no less free than the 323 million Americans in the US.
    "Feel." Doesn't matter what they "feel." A gilded cage is still a cage. A happy pet is still a pet. "Well, I wouldn't want to do that anyway" isn't any statement of real freedom; it's just a statement of being content with the length of your leash.

    I've lived around Europe since transferred here to work from the states in the 1970s. My children have university degrees that cost me more room 'n board than tuition (about 900€ a year). I have a first-class National HealthCare System that is half the cost per capita of the US entirely government subsidized, and with a longer lifespan as well. See here:
    HC - Average costs versus Life Span.jpg

    And I have a selection of excellent French wines to boot ...
    . . . . so what?
    If you feel a need to "reinterpret" the Constitution, you must know that what you want to do is unconstitutional.
    "AND WHEN THE LAST LAW WAS DOWN, AND THE DEVIL TURNED 'ROUND ON YOU, WHERE WOULD YOU HIDE, ROPER, THE LAWS ALL BEING FLAT?"


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    Re: The Powers of Government ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Brewdog View Post
    I would say that a progressive taxation violates the 14th Amendment. Having progressive tax rates is hardly "Equal protection."
    equal protection of the law, not equality of opportunity. Equality is a social concept not a capital concept.

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    Re: The Powers of Government ...

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    equal protection of the law, not equality of opportunity.
    Tax laws are laws.
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