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    EFF Argues Streaming Service Violates FCC Regulation

    Maybe one of the first examples of negative effects of the FCC take over of the internet:

    To summarize, TMobile wants to offer as part of their wireless data service, the option to stream certain content without it counting against your data limits. They can afford to do this by optimizing it for smartphone screens, lower resolution and bit rate basically. This technically violates the FCC regs that require equal treatment for data however, so some groups are against it, even though consumers would want it.

    Which might mean innovation is stamped down, lawsuit are ramped up, and so is your bill to pay for more lawyers and lobbyists.

    Does T-Mobile's Binge On Service Violate Net Neutrality? Probably, Which Is All You Need To Know About Net Neutrality. - Hit & Run : Reason.com

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    Re: EFF Argues Streaming Service Violates FCC Regulation

    How the hell is that innovation? It is just trying to bribe people to be against net neutrality.

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    Re: EFF Argues Streaming Service Violates FCC Regulation

    Welcome to more government involvement, in the end the customer will lose.
    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people." - Penn Jillette.

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    Re: EFF Argues Streaming Service Violates FCC Regulation

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Welcome to more government involvement, in the end the customer will lose.
    The consumer will lose without net neutrality, without net neutrality T-Mobile could very easily say you are only allowed to use their app for streaming or slow down all other video traffic to push you towards their app.

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    Re: EFF Argues Streaming Service Violates FCC Regulation

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    The consumer will lose without net neutrality, without net neutrality T-Mobile could very easily say you are only allowed to use their app for streaming or slow down all other video traffic to push you towards their app.
    Then you would go with Verizon.

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    Re: EFF Argues Streaming Service Violates FCC Regulation

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    How the hell is that innovation? It is just trying to bribe people to be against net neutrality.
    They found a unique solution to the problem of high demand services that use a lot of bandwidth. If they customer likes it, whats the problem?

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    Re: EFF Argues Streaming Service Violates FCC Regulation

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    They found a unique solution to the problem of high demand services that use a lot of bandwidth. If they customer likes it, whats the problem?
    The problem is that consumers are not discerning customers. They can be bribed or convinced to like all sorts of things that are bad for them.

    Examples? Cigarettes, unnecessary prescription drugs (restless leg syndrome?), sugar in foods, caffeine energy drinks, overly processed foods...the list goes on.

    The reason we have the FDA, FCC, SEC etc. is because we can't trust ourselves or the business sector when it comes to such things. Business is always trying to corner some market and will use any means necessary to reap profits. Aborting net neutrality is a prime example. Assessment of the validity of any offer based on immediate gratification without concern for long-term consequences? Asking your question as the measure of a good idea is pretty foolish IMO.
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    Re: EFF Argues Streaming Service Violates FCC Regulation

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    The problem is that consumers are not discerning customers. They can be bribed or convinced to like all sorts of things that are bad for them.

    Examples? Cigarettes, unnecessary prescription drugs (restless leg syndrome?), sugar in foods, caffeine energy drinks, overly processed foods...the list goes on.

    The reason we have the FDA, FCC, SEC etc. is because we can't trust ourselves or the business sector when it comes to such things. Business is always trying to corner some market and will use any means necessary to reap profits. Aborting net neutrality is a prime example. Assessment of the validity of any offer based on immediate gratification without concern for long-term consequences? Asking your question as the measure of a good idea is pretty foolish IMO.
    The end result being that I am prohibited from making decisions for myself because YOU might make a bad decision for yourself. Calling yourself a libertarian is pretty foolish, IMO.

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    Re: EFF Argues Streaming Service Violates FCC Regulation

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    They found a unique solution to the problem of high demand services that use a lot of bandwidth. If they customer likes it, whats the problem?
    It violates net neutrality, that is the problem. What they are doing is delivering lower quality content and offering it for free in order to bribe people against net neutrality.

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    Re: EFF Argues Streaming Service Violates FCC Regulation

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Then you would go with Verizon.
    Then since T-Mobile is allowed to do it Verizon will start doing it as well, also most people would not switch carriers due to the inconvenience, they would just live with it, making the problem worse.

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