Thread: Fleeing California

Originally Posted by Redress

I loved San Diego when I was there. One of the better cities I have ever been in.

Thats why its called "America's finest city"

Originally Posted by Catawba

If California is as bad a place as many are saying, I wonder why high tech companies prefer California?

"Despite the development of other high-tech economic centers throughout the United States and the world, Silicon Valley continues to be the leading hub for high-tech innovation and development, accounting for 1/3 of all of the venture capital investment in the United States."

Silicon Valley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikipedia? I don't accept that as a source for the proposition you are advancing.

Silicon Valley isn't what it used to be. That's what audit managers will tell you.

Silicon Valley is pinning its hopes on Cleantech. Won't happen. Cleantech needs subsidies that it won't receive from the federal govt. because there's a new sheriff in town. Cleantech won't be cost effective without subsidies.

Originally Posted by disneydude

Thats why its called "America's finest city"

Southern California is not as nice as Northern California. We have water. You guys don't.

Originally Posted by disneydude

I can beat that:

I can be in San Diego in 2 hours
I can be in San Francisco in 5 hours
I can be in Monterey/Santa Cruz in 5 hours
I can be in Las Vegas in 4 hours
I can be in Rosarito Mexico in 3 1/2 hours
I can be up skiing in 2 hours or at the beach in 45 minutes......

That's pretty hard to beat.

Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo

Southern California is not as nice as Northern California. We have water. You guys don't.

I would respectfully disagree. Northern California is a beautiful place to visit, but Southern California is a better place to live....and we actually do have water, now. Our reservoirs are almost back to pre-drought levels.

Originally Posted by disneydude

I would respectfully disagree. Northern California is a beautiful place to visit, but Southern California is a better place to live....and we actually do have water, now. Our reservoirs are almost back to pre-drought levels.

Well, SoCal ain't bad. It's nicer than Cleveland...l kid. SoCal is very nice. But the terrain and forests are different up here. The land seems to change around Santa Barbara. We have green mountains rising out of the ocean covered with Redwood trees. We have fifty thousand elephant seals hauled up on the beach thirty miles north of me. Hawaii is the only place that can compare with NorCal.

Cali has Jerry Brown one of the most creative and out of the box solution makers ever in politics. Big business will come back to our beautiful state with his leadership.

Originally Posted by Awesome!

Cali has Jerry Brown one of the most creative and out of the box solution makers ever in politics. Big business will come back to our beautiful state with his leadership.

I hope you're right. But there is zero tolerance for failure. This is now a case of strict liability for any mistakes.

Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo

Wikipedia? I don't accept that as a source for the proposition you are advancing.

Silicon Valley isn't what it used to be. That's what audit managers will tell you.

Silicon Valley is pinning its hopes on Cleantech. Won't happen. Cleantech needs subsidies that it won't receive from the federal govt. because there's a new sheriff in town. Cleantech won't be cost effective without subsidies.

I read about this before. Wiki was just the first link I grabbed. Here's another source for you. This one from Small Business Trends last month:

"California has been the number-one state for venture investing for more than 30 years. It doesn’t matter whether you measure VC activity in dollars, deals done, or capital under management. Actually, based on certain measures, California today accounts for a larger slice of the venture capital pie than it did 30 years ago."
California Rules the Venture Capital Ecosystem

Do you have a source that refutes this?

Originally Posted by Catawba

I read about this before. Wiki was just the first link I grabbed. Here's another source for you. This one from Small Business Trends last month:

"California has been the number-one state for venture investing for more than 30 years. It doesn’t matter whether you measure VC activity in dollars, deals done, or capital under management. Actually, based on certain measures, California today accounts for a larger slice of the venture capital pie than it did 30 years ago."
California Rules the Venture Capital Ecosystem

Do you have a source that refutes this?

Thanks for the info. I lived in Santa Clara County when it was just beginning to be known as Silicon Valley. The manufacturing jobs have been slashed and moved elsewhere. Much of the lab work is done elsewhere. What remains are brains and headquarters. That doesn't produce enough jobs. Rich and poor is not a formula for a healthy society. My younger son is an audit manager with a Big Four firm. I believe him and my eyes.