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    Re: Sarah Palin did NOT say "I can see Russia from my house."

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    The lie did, yes... Not Palin's actual statement. The unfortunate fact is, whether it was in jest or stated seriously, many people in the media ran with that lie, which in turn resulted in a whole lot of people looking down upon, or questioning the intelligence of Sarah Palin.

    When the country is in the middle of a presidential campaign, with the elections right around the corner, that kind of chit should never take place from our news media. It's absolutely disgraceful, and an embarrassment to our nation.
    the single most overused word on this website by right wingers is LIE. By your standard, every parody is a LIE. Every imitation is a LIE. Every joke based on a real event that uses exaggeration to make a point is a LIE. When it comes to your own gods who reside upon your altar of worship, many of you have no sense of humor at all.

    I thought Darrell Hammond was terrific as Bill Clinton - very funny. Fred Armisen simply does not do a good Obama and thus really falls short of the mark for great parody.
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    Re: Sarah Palin did NOT say "I can see Russia from my house."

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    How about a little more context? …
    Context is good. What do you think it shows?
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    Re: Sarah Palin did NOT say "I can see Russia from my house."

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    … I'm really at a loss for why you feel the need to keep emphasizing this. Do you think there are people who don't know your thoughts about Palin? Is it cathartic for you to keep talking about how awful she is?
    Fair enough. I have of late avoided threads about Palin and Beck because I've said what I have to say about them — my mind's made up. My participation in this thread then was merely to identify for my own sake what Palin did say and as Barbbtx emphasizes, what context she said it in. The rest is a rehash.
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    Re: Sarah Palin did NOT say "I can see Russia from my house."

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    the single most overused word on this website by right wingers is LIE. By your standard, every parody is a LIE. Every imitation is a LIE. Every joke based on a real event that uses exaggeration to make a point is a LIE. When it comes to your own gods who reside upon your altar of worship, many of you have no sense of humor at all.
    Parody =/= lie
    If someone repeats that parody as if it were an actual statement and then others claim that that actually happened, then that is a lie.

    Pretty straightforward.
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    Re: Sarah Palin did NOT say "I can see Russia from my house."

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Parody =/= lie
    If someone repeats that parody as if it were an actual statement and then others claim that that actually happened, then that is a lie.

    Pretty straightforward.
    And you sit there and pass judgment knowing perfectly that everyone who repeats that joke believes it to be true? Amazing powers you have.
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    Re: Sarah Palin did NOT say "I can see Russia from my house."

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Actually many people don't just as they also think Gore said he "invented" the internet which he did not.

    If something is said long enough it's believed as fact by those that want to believe it.
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    Re: Sarah Palin did NOT say "I can see Russia from my house."

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And you sit there and pass judgment knowing perfectly that everyone who repeats that joke believes it to be true? Amazing powers you have.
    Your reading comprehension needs some work.

    Grim: "Many people area spreading a lie about Palin."
    You: "Parody isn't the same as a lie."
    Me: "If someone is spreading this statement as if it actually happened, then that's a lie."
    You: "How do you know that everyone who repeats that joke thinks its true?"

    Nobody said that everyone who repeats this tidbit thinks its true. That's a strawman of your own making. The point is that when idiots do claim that she actually said this, they are repeating lies.
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    Re: Sarah Palin did NOT say "I can see Russia from my house."

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Context is good. What do you think it shows?
    I think it shows that Charlie Gibson himself commented from Alaska that they were close to Russia.
    It shows that Palin had more to say about Russia, before and after the comment that the media used to make her look stupid.
    She is more educated on Russia than "I can see Russia from my house" Or Russia can be seen from Alaska" which the media tried to portray as all Palin knew about Russia.
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    Re: Sarah Palin did NOT say "I can see Russia from my house."

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I think it shows that Charlie Gibson himself commented from Alaska that they were close to Russia.
    It shows that Palin had more to say about Russia, before and after the comment that the media used to make her look stupid.
    She is more educated on Russia than "I can see Russia from my house" Or Russia can be seen from Alaska" which the media tried to portray as all Palin knew about Russia.
    Then she should not have been so idiotic as to say you can see Russia from Alaska and that being close to Russia is good foreign policy experience.

    She should have expanded on her foreign policy experience instead

    She clearly was not ready for being on the national stage, she did not prepare herself for any interviews,
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    Re: Sarah Palin did NOT say "I can see Russia from my house."

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Your reading comprehension needs some work.

    Grim: "Many people area spreading a lie about Palin."
    You: "Parody isn't the same as a lie."
    Me: "If someone is spreading this statement as if it actually happened, then that's a lie."
    You: "How do you know that everyone who repeats that joke thinks its true?"

    Nobody said that everyone who repeats this tidbit thinks its true. That's a strawman of your own making. The point is that when idiots do claim that she actually said this, they are repeating lies.
    My reading comprehension is just fine.

    Here is what you said

    If someone repeats that parody as if it were an actual statement and then others claim that that actually happened, then that is a lie.
    Here is my response to you

    And you sit there and pass judgment knowing perfectly that everyone who repeats that joke believes it to be true? Amazing powers you have.
    I can read your words and I fully comprehend that they only have any relevance at all if you are able to know that people actually do this.

    And you don't know that for a fact. You only assume they do so you can attack them for doing it.
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