Most Voters Favor Tax Cut Deal

makes you wonder Just How Out Of Touch the left is, that they are going apoplectic over this when even self-identified political liberals are about evenly split.

Most voters like the tax cut deal President Obama made with congressional Republicans.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 56% of Likely U.S. Voters favor the agreement that extends the Bush tax cuts for all Americans for two more years, cuts the Social Security payroll tax rate for one year and renews long-term unemployment benefits for an additional 13 months. Just 29% oppose the deal, but 15% are not sure about it.

Forty-nine percent (49%) of voters say the agreement will be good for the economy while just 28% disagree and think it will be bad for the economy. Nine percent (9%) say it will have no impact, and 14% more are not sure.

Seventy percent (70%) of Republicans and 51% of unaffiliated voters favor the tax cut agreement. A plurality of Democrats (48%) share that view but 38% of those in the president’s party are opposed.

Political liberals are evenly divided—43% favor the deal and 41% are opposed.

cpwill said:

makes you wonder Just How Out Of Touch the left is

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Perhaps you should note the questions in the poll.

The most important question for context is not given the results in the article. Without knowing if the polled people actually know what the bill is about, the rest of the poll in terms of your assertion is impossible to make a conclusion on.

obvious Child said:

Perhaps you should note the questions in the poll.

The most important question for context is not given the results in the article. Without knowing if the polled people actually know what the bill is about, the rest of the poll in terms of your assertion is impossible to make a conclusion on.

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I agree with you here. Questions asked were:

1* How closely have you followed news reports about the tax cut deal President Obama made with congressional Republican leaders?

2* President Obama and congressional Republican leaders have reached an agreement that extends the Bush tax cuts for all Americans for two more years, cuts the Social Security payroll tax rate for one year and renews long-term unemployment benefits for an additional 13 months. Do you favor or oppose this agreement?

3* Will this agreement be good or bad for the economy?

4* Is President Obama being too cooperative with congressional Republicans, not cooperative enough or is his level of cooperation about right?

5* What is more important—reducing the federal deficit or reducing federal spending?

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Note in #2, the estate tax change was intentionally omitted.

Gallop polling has shown that in a choice between the Bush tax cuts entirely and nothing, about 65% of Americans choose the Bush tax cuts. However, when given the choice between the full Bush tax cuts and the tax cuts for the middle class, a slight majority chooses them just for the middle class.

MaggieD said:

I agree with you here. Questions asked were:

Note in #2, the estate tax change was intentionally omitted.

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The article casts a real credibility issue over Rasmussen not to mention political slant. The key question was completely omitted in the article. Not disclosing the outcome of that question casts the entire article in doubt. Deliberately not stating it suggests that a high percent have no idea what the compromise is about. How can the White House be out of touch with people who have no opinion on the bill?

cpwill said:

makes you wonder Just How Out Of Touch the left is, that they are going apoplectic over this when even self-identified political liberals are about evenly split.

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The people that are out of touch are the GOP. They look like asses with what they are doing and its going to lose them the White House. And those statics are false. Every poll running says Americans DONT want the tax gift to the ultra wealthy. If you want to benefit companies dont give the wealthy a tax gift...... give the companies tax incentives. But per USUAL the GOP is dishing out gov't gifts just like Socialists. Pathetic, embarrasing and insulting to good Americans.

SirPwn4lot said:

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Suggesting my assertion that a large percent of people don't know what the compromise bill is about. This is why I always dig deep into a Cpwill post. I cannot trust him to provide the basic facts.

The Giant Noodle said:

The people that are out of touch are the GOP. They look like asses with what they are doing and its going to lose them the White House. And those statics are false. Every poll running says Americans DONT want the tax gift to the ultra wealthy. If you want to benefit companies dont give the wealthy a tax gift...... give the companies tax incentives. But per USUAL the GOP is dishing out gov't gifts just like Socialists. Pathetic, embarrasing and insulting to good Americans.

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I'm going to have to disagree with you here. The Dems are out of touch. The American people want their spending but don't want taxes at the same time want debt reduction. That's borderline schizophrenic. And that's exactly what Republicans are doing. The GOP wants to cut taxes without drastic cuts to spending. And they give lip service to debt reduction. Mark my words, the GOP will not cut the deficit. In fact, they are going to expand it. The American people right now hold a logically incoherent position and the GOP is following it.

obvious Child said:

I'm going to have to disagree with you here. The Dems are out of touch. The American people want their spending but don't want taxes at the same time want debt reduction. That's borderline schizophrenic. And that's exactly what Republicans are doing. The GOP wants to cut taxes without drastic cuts to spending. And they give lip service to debt reduction. Mark my words, the GOP will not cut the deficit. In fact, they are going to expand it. The American people right now hold a logically incoherent position and the GOP is following it.

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Look the GOP is going to do NOTHING about the deficit. (per usual) They give out govt goodies as bad if not more so than the Democrats. And then for them to go the OPPOSITE direction of what Americans want regarding this tax gifting is insane. Its not going to benefit the economy and giving presents to the very wealthy in America is sinful in this economy. Not only are the GOP out of touch, they are doing things that will make this Country worse. They arent doing the bidding of the people and they arent fixing anything. Its a total cluster ****

The Giant Noodle said:

Look the GOP is going to do NOTHING about the deficit. (per usual) They give out govt goodies as bad if not more so than the Democrats. And then for them to go the OPPOSITE direction of what Americans want regarding this tax gifting is insane. Its not going to benefit the economy and giving presents to the very wealthy in America is sinful in this economy. Not only are the GOP out of touch, they are doing things that will make this Country worse. They arent doing the bidding of the people and they arent fixing anything. Its a total cluster ****

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You do realize that OC stated pretty much the same thing you did only with out the rant right?

Kal'Stang said:

You do realize that OC stated pretty much the same thing you did only with out the rant right?

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I simply stated the facts of why the GOP is out of touch but I also agreed to much of what he said.

It's blatantly obvious that neither party does what's in the interests of the American people. Neither in principle nor in terms of outcomes. This is why there are currently change campaigns within both parties. In the Democrats there was the Obama change campaign (which has ultimately failed, more or less), as a response to the Democratic cooperation in both wars, the bailouts, mass income inequality, etc, etc.

In the Republican party there is also a change campaign. The Republican base has finally started to realize that the Republican elite don't represent them either. They were seriously peeved off at the Bush Jr. administration, which, while decreasing taxes and regulation on financial institutions, also bailed them out, got us into two insanely expensive wars, increased spending quite substantially, all while wages stagnated and the American dream got further out of reach.

Both of these movements arise from genuine concerns, but I'd argue that neither of the solutions offered; either the Obama change campaign or the Tea Party movement, actually change much of anything. On the Democratic side this is blatantly obvious: Obama has lost a quarter of his party, half the nation, and his voting base is seriously disenfranchised. Furthermore, most (if not all) of his reforms were weaksauce and didn't actually fix the problems.

Again, the way to actually fix things is through constructive activism on a local level, such as that seen in the 1930s. Many of the disputes on both sides can have common solutions. It's just a matter of finding them, and working together to create a better tomorrow. I don't believe that fiddling with elite politics will solve anything. Your movement will just be hijacked.

obvious Child said:

The article casts a real credibility issue over Rasmussen not to mention political slant. The key question was completely omitted in the article. Not disclosing the outcome of that question casts the entire article in doubt. Deliberately not stating it suggests that a high percent have no idea what the compromise is about. How can the White House be out of touch with people who have no opinion on the bill?

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You consider the estate tax provision a "key" in this?

This is nearly irrelevant to the vast majority of Americans, and is only an issue with a very small percentage of far left liberals who's life revolves around inciting class warfare.

Grim17 said:

You consider the estate tax provision a "key" in this?

This is nearly irrelevant to the vast majority of Americans, and is only an issue with a very small percentage of far left liberals who's life revolves around inciting class warfare.

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I definitely like the way you think.

The Giant Noodle said:

Look the GOP is going to do NOTHING about the deficit. (per usual)

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Ever heard of Congressman Paul Ryan? I suggest you do a little research into his economic road map. After you do that, then explain to all of us why it is, that the GOP appointed him, a man obsessed with cutting the deficit, the chairman of the congressional budget committee?

You know what... don't bother checking on those things... It will only create confusion for you.

The Giant Noodle said:

Look the GOP is going to do NOTHING about the deficit.

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Nothing in terms of reduction yes. The GOP will actually drive up the deficit. The GOP won't cut the programs that will result in a decline in the deficit and will pushing additional tax reductions that will reduce revenue. Honestly, we're going to get higher deficits no matter who's in power because our parties are run by children who don't have the balls to do what is necessary.

Nothing you actually said refutes my argument. I don't disagree with your stance that the GOP's positions are not helpful overall to the economy. But I disagree with your stance they are out of touch.

Grim17 said:

You consider the estate tax provision a "key" in this?

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Can you comprehend the English language in its written form? I'm betting not.

This is nearly irrelevant to the vast majority of Americans, and is only an issue with a very small percentage of far left liberals who's life revolves around inciting class warfare.

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How is my point of the poll leaving out the contextual question as key to understanding Cpwill's assertion lead to your conclusion?

Or are you once again trying to win the King of Dishonest posters award?

You might want to start putting some discernible effort into your posts. Note post #2 and then try to scrap off all of the egg off your face.

obvious Child said:

Can you comprehend the English language in its written form? I'm betting not.



How is my point of the poll leaving out the contextual question as key to understanding Cpwill's assertion lead to your conclusion?

Or are you once again trying to win the King of Dishonest posters award?

You might want to start putting some discernible effort into your posts. Note post #2 and then try to scrap off all of the egg off your face.

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another friendly post from OC:roll:

TurtleDude said:

another friendly post from OC:roll:

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Want to post on an English language board? Learn English.

Furthermore, I'm right. Friendly is irrelevant.