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Old 11-23-09, 09:26 AM   #1
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Do you Hate the Man or his Plans & Appointments?

These is being asked of mainly Conservatives that find themselves under attack for wanting do something to stop the push toward Socilism/Marxism we see under way from the current administration. And it will take some time to go through. I would tell you how long but I don't know. I know it took a very long time to research and this just scratches the surface.

We all remember the axiom; If it looks like a Duck, walks like a Duck, and quacks like a dDuck. It’s a duck.
What about? You can tell what kind of a person someone is by the company they keep.
Well there seems to be a new batch of them. If you disagree with Obama you’re a racist. Add to that one. If you don’t like Obama’s policies for any reason you are an Obama hater.

I agree with the Duck one, and knowing what kind of a person someone is by the company they keep. But I take serious exception to the next two. These two sentiments are fundamentally positions I ascribe to Liberal tactics. We have all heard pundits in the Obamedia and people from the White House and Nancy Pelosi all claim racism and play the race card as well as using an extremely vulgar term in talking about Tea Party participants.

We have heard them attack people and lie in an attempt to try to frighten people into silence. A prime example was Pelosi equating Tea Party participants to Dan White the former San Francisco Board of Supervisors member who shot and killed Mayor, Moscone along with Radical activist and Supervisor Harvey Milk. She claimed it was caused by hate speech from crowds of protesters. That was a flat out ball faced lie and she knew and so did everyone who was alive at the time but the Obamedia choose to only show her fake emotional press conference.

Dan White quit his position over not getting his way on the board and in his resignation letter said it was for personal financial reasons. He shot and killed the Mayor for not allowing White to resend his resignation. This is a perfect example of propaganda.

Name calling is right out of the Alenskey rules for radicals and is supposed to throw the opponent off balance and make them defensive thus changing the subject. Well I don’t bite. If called a racist I point out that it is a tactic used by those who lack the intellectual wherewithal to make an intelligent argument based on the facts. I use the same phrase when confronted with the straw man tactic or obfuscation. One example is when you have pointed out a flaw in one of Obama’s plans someone will say something bad about something might have done Bush, or lately Sarah Palin becomes the target to try to get you off the subject at hand.

So back on track do you Hate Obama or his Socialist/Marxist plans and ideas, and does he surround himself with Socialist/Communist anti-America types also does he use questionable judgment in his appointments? Here are some things to consider but it will take some time because there is a lot of evidence to sift through.

Anti-American sentiments expressed by Pastor of over 20 years. By then Obama never heard any of this even though it was a regular feature of Rev. Wright.

Do you have questions about Obama’s judgment? Take a listen to what kind of person Obama appointed Czar of Safe Schools. Kevin Jennings;
Kevin Jennings - http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXsYcExfuLMThere is audio of Jennings defending these things but it’s near impossible to hear.


Let’s start with Socialized Medicine? Doesn't this prove Obama's plan?
Obama on single payer health insurance

What about Obama wanting to shut down over 1200 insurance companies putting tens of thousands of Americans out of works taking control over another good chunk of the economy he can add to GM, Chrysler, and banking.
SHOCK UNCOVERED:

One of the most important things to do in any take over is control the media and shut down opposition;


Andy Stern most frequent White house visitor quoting Marxist teachings and more; Meet President Obama's Most Frequent White House Visitor

Have there been others in the white House who admirer Communists? Obama Cabinet Member Anita Dunn: Mao Tse Tung "Favorite Philosopher"; Truth ...


Carol M. Browner, President-elect Barack Obama's pick as global warming czar Has Socialist ties.
Obama climate czar has socialist ties - Washington Times
Brian Deese appointed Car Czar to over see the revamping of the nations Auto industry and has never been in a manufacturing facility in his 31 years, he knows nothing about the job he was handed; http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/bu...YTLbmulWMtfi9w

Fired in the middle of the night Van Jones is and admitted Communist; Van Jones Video Collection Montage -

Obama Manufacturing Czar trashes free the free market system and quotes Mao.
Obama's Czar Ron Bloom Agrees With Mao - address at Investor Conf part3

You might find this of interest; The Real Story -
[/URL]While your here take time to see Part 2 as well.

So do I hate the man? No and if you accuse me of doing so you are the hater the name caller the intellectuality challenged student of Rules for Radicals being blindly lead into Socialism/Marxism by someone with no experience running so much as a Lemon Aid Stand if that. I hate no one but policies, decisions, yes and I question his judgment and challenge the claim that he’s brilliant because so far he’s actually addressed ZERO issues with direct workable solutions that fix problems without massive debt and destruction to the economy and does not do damage to the Nation in the long run.


Now in conclusion if you took the time to go through all of this you now need to relax.
This video was made to illustrate some the dangers of Socialism remember this Socialism and Communism are separated only by the means by which they are achieved. Socialists will con you into voting for it with lies. Communism will do it by force from the barrel of a gun. In the end the result is total control over you and slavery.
Enjoy the video.
By the way. It’s a Duck.

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Re: Do you Hate the Man or his Plans & Appointments?

Part of why people sometimes think it's about hating the man is the criticisms of his actions can be so completely pointless and substanceless.
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Part of why people sometimes think it's about hating the man is the criticisms of his actions can be so completely pointless and substanceless.
It's just another sad aspect of the divisive legacy left by the great untier.
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It's just another sad aspect of the divisive legacy left by the great untier.
I'm confused exactly who are you talking about. I googled the great uniter and it came Obama.

If you were blaming it on Bush the decider you would be dead wrong. I say this because you can't blame Socialist/Communist ideas and policies of Obama on any one but him. If you were talking about the hate coming from those defending Obama then I agree.

I had my partner of 10 years and someone who was a conservative call people who disagree with Obama haters and he was talking about me and he should have known better. I'm concerned that the hate for Bush is washing over some peoples better judgment.
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If you were blaming it on Bush the decider you would be dead wrong. I say this because you can't blame Socialist/Communist ideas and policies of Obama on any one but him.
Sure you can. The bank bailouts were Bush's idea, started on his watch. Bush also did a stimulus in 2008, which of course is forgotten.
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Re: Do you Hate the Man or his Plans & Appointments?

I don't think anybody hates the man.

You have to know somebody to develop hate feelings, which arguably are the strongest feelings you can have. We have no idea who this man really is. He hid that pretty well during the campaign and now we know him as the traveling president and that is it.

I think people say some hateful things sometimes out of fear. It seems Obamas policies are designed to take as much money away from people as possible and give it to who he thinks deserves it.

People are having a hard time feeding their families now and to have to pay more taxes or pay more for health insurance or more for anything at this point is scary.

A half thinking person knows the money has to come from somewhere. A trillion for this and a trillion for that.

The fear of the future, or lack thereof, will make people say some hateful things.

This does not take into account people paid to say those things, like the SEIU members bussed into rallies to make it look like tehre was an oposition to some of Bushs policies.
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Re: Do you Hate the Man or his Plans & Appointments?

Why are you guys so blind to this? It's ridiculous. You're going to bash and bash and bash down the doors, you're going to take Dr. Professor Extraordinaire Obama from his Sistine Chapel, and you're going to put your Dr. Professor Extraordinaire in his place, and guard the door, until you realize that he looks exactly the same, smells exactly the same, and eats with chopsticks the exact same way the previous Presidents have.

Then you're going to bash bash bash down the doors once more.

If you are going to attack the regime, aim for the people who are actually making policy-- not the pretty face.
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I don't think anybody hates the man.
Let's be clear - plenty of people hate him. Look at the teabaggers and their vicious signs, including racist ones.

Some, however, are genuinely criticizing his policies.

Same with all leaders.
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Let's be clear - plenty of people hate him. Look at the teabaggers and their vicious signs, including racist ones.

Some, however, are genuinely criticizing his policies.

Same with all leaders.
You know, I am not 100% convinced that the Teabaggers aren't the same "protestors" who were out during the Bush Regime waving Swastikas and Bush = Hitler sign.

My hypothesis is that they're trained actors, who are paid to play the role of anti-*insertcurrentregime* and sometimes have to fake southern accents, and be creative enough to make it not look exactly the same.
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You know, I am not 100% convinced that the Teabaggers aren't the same "protestors" who were out during the Bush Regime waving Swastikas and Bush = Hitler sign.

My hypothesis is that they're trained actors, who are paid to play the role of anti-*insertcurrentregime* and sometimes have to fake southern accents, and be creative enough to make it not look exactly the same.
But who is paying them? That's the real queston. Who is at the heart of this massive conspiracy?
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