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Pride Month! I celebrate.

Jerry said:
That lack of respect for marriage and family is where the modern gay marriage movement comes from.

By supporting gay marriage you are supporting that same disrespect.
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Hetro's have already disrespected marriage enough. If gays wish to take on this commitment that hetros have taken for granted then go for it imo.
 
Laila said:
Hetro's have already disrespected marriage enough. If gays wish to take on this commitment that hetros have taken for granted then go for it imo.
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Nah, I'd rather see marriage dissolved completely :2wave:
 
Jerry said:
Nah, I'd rather see marriage dissolved completely :2wave:
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If hetrosexuals keep going, it will be.

Its straight people who are the problem, not gays.
 
Now there is an idea. Get rid of marriage for heterosexuals, and allow it for gays. Straits have had marriage for long enough, and have screwed it up. Time for them to admit failure, and let gays have the benefits.
 
Inferno said:
On June 27th 1969 the Rebellion at Stonewall Inn took place. It was the first time that gays and lesbians took a stand for basic human rights and fought back against police brutality and abusive treatment. LGBT Pride began with a riot at a small bar. Gays took a stand.

2009 is the 40th anniversary of that date. June is Pride Month and we celebrate that LGBT rights have progressed as far as they have. I and all of us wish that the nation would truly recognize us as legitimate citizens but we have come a long way in our journey, but not far enough.

I do believe that within the next decade we will have arrived at where we want to be. I look forward to the day when we are equal and not less than all the rest of you.
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Other than the gay marriage issue, how are gays and lesbians being denied "basic human rights" and how are they less equal than heterosexuals?
 
Laila said:
If hetrosexuals keep going, it will be.

Its straight people who are the problem, not gays.
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No, the problem is people, regardless of sexuality. What evidence is there to support the idea that homosexuals are impervious to the failings that plauge straight marriages?
 
Originally Posted by Inferno
It is the one month of the year where the straight folks are supposed to be proud of their LGBT brothers and sisters as well.
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Why is any person "supposed to be proud" of anybody else?
And for no other reason than their sexual preference? Are you kidding me? :roll:

There is no "white pride" day or "heterosexual day" or "man's day"... I get one "fathers day" but think of all the non-fathers...
It is one hell of a double standard when affirmative action trumps the good that I do and the recognition that I receive...
 
WI Crippler said:
No, the problem is people, regardless of sexuality. What evidence is there to support the idea that homosexuals are impervious to the failings that plauge straight marriages?
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Yep, it is people that make a committment and then break it... like my soon to be ex-wife.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
Right there, you have perfect examples of two movements that did their jobs-- assuming they were just causes in the first place, which I do not-- and instead of congratulating themselves and moving on with their lives have become bloated dysfunctional malignancies, devouring the strength and vitality of our people.

When you were protesting the Vietnam War and the Draft used to support it, did you imagine that your comrades would try to force military recruiters off of high school and even college campuses, and cut funding for JROTC and ROTC programs? When you were fighting for the rights of the intellectually disabled, did you imagine that they would be receiving benefits in excess of the median household income in the United States, from the already overburdened Social Security budget?

Or worse, did you support these things?



I was at home, starving, because my parents couldn't be counted on to either feed me or send me to school on a regular basis. Where were you when they were cutting academic programs and gifted & talented programs to save money for more special education and sensitivity training? Or when they decided to start sending me to a school fifteen miles away because the school I lived next to was too "white"?

Or does the right to a quality education only apply to children who have a socially-approved "excuse" for underperforming?
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I worked with a huge tutoring program that was going on in Chicago for the kids that had no way of getting to school. I know many that staffed shelters for the homeless and bused children to schools. One person cannot everywhere be. They can do their part.

It is far better to stand up and do what one can then say i can do nothing because there is to much.


To answer your part about the military I am against any military spending now in the past and in the future. I protested every conflict that we have been a part of since I have been able to do so. I write letters against military spending almost weekly. I do not support ROTC in schools. I will not protest against that as it is the right of a student to have that particular study as part of the available curriculum.

I will always protest conflict completely.
 
Inferno said:
I worked with a huge tutoring program that was going on in Chicago for the kids that had no way of getting to school. I know many that staffed shelters for the homeless and bused children to schools. One person cannot everywhere be. They can do their part.

It is far better to stand up and do what one can then say i can do nothing because there is to much.


To answer your part about the military I am against any military spending now in the past and in the future. I protested every conflict that we have been a part of since I have been able to do so. I write letters against military spending almost weekly. I do not support ROTC in schools. I will not protest against that as it is the right of a student to have that particular study as part of the available curriculum.

I will always protest conflict completely.
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damn
and here i thought you were a reasonable person with opposing political, social and sexual views

you are a bit loony if you are completely against the military. that is a fantasy land delusion. and if you are writing letters every week, than it sounds like a certain professor has WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much time on their hands
 
DeeJayH said:
damn
and here i thought you were a reasonable person with opposing political, social and sexual views

you are a bit loony if you are completely against the military. that is a fantasy land delusion. and if you are writing letters every week, than it sounds like a certain professor has WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much time on their hands
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Says the guy with almost 10k posts:lol:
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
It's even funnier that you think that when the government decides to turn on me and mine, that it's going to be you and yours even lifting a finger to stand for me. Chances are as good they'll be your jackboots on my neck as anyone else's.
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You obviously don't know Inferno very well.
 
DeeJayH said:
damn
and here i thought you were a reasonable person with opposing political, social and sexual views

you are a bit loony if you are completely against the military. that is a fantasy land delusion. and if you are writing letters every week, than it sounds like a certain professor has WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much time on their hands
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This professor has been writing letters for years for many things. I am also retired for the time being. So yes I do have a lot of time on my hands.

Why is it wrong to be against military?
There was a saying back in the 60's and 70's, Suppose they gave a war and no one came.

Just because some believe that war is always to be, doesn't mean that we all have to support such nonsense.
 

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Inferno said:
This professor has been writing letters for years for many things. I am also retired for the time being. So yes I do have a lot of time on my hands.

Why is it wrong to be against military?
There was a saying back in the 60's and 70's, Suppose they gave a war and no one came.

Just because some believe that war is always to be, doesn't mean that we all have to support such nonsense.
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Nothing about:

Other than the gay marriage issue, how are gays and lesbians being denied "basic human rights" and how are they less equal than heterosexuals?

OR:

Why is any person "supposed to be proud" of anybody else?
And for no other reason than their sexual preference? Are you kidding me?

??????
 
Inferno said:
This professor has been writing letters for years for many things. I am also retired for the time being. So yes I do have a lot of time on my hands.

Why is it wrong to be against military?
There was a saying back in the 60's and 70's, Suppose they gave a war and no one came.

Just because some believe that war is always to be, doesn't mean that we all have to support such nonsense.
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A country can decide it's not going to get involved in any wars, but the other guy might have other thoughts about that, and the peaceful country will probably be all blown up by the time it realizes it has no power to prevent its entry into a war....

Hope you don't mind me asking but what are you a professor of?
 
Inferno said:
This professor has been writing letters for years for many things. I am also retired for the time being. So yes I do have a lot of time on my hands.

Why is it wrong to be against military?
There was a saying back in the 60's and 70's, Suppose they gave a war and no one came.

Just because some believe that war is always to be, doesn't mean that we all have to support such nonsense.
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I served in the military to protect the rights of people to take stands I might disagree with. I don't agree with your stand on the military, but I do respect some one who takes a stand for issues they believe in, and works on behalf of those issues.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Nothing about:

Other than the gay marriage issue, how are gays and lesbians being denied "basic human rights" and how are they less equal than heterosexuals?

OR:

Why is any person "supposed to be proud" of anybody else?
And for no other reason than their sexual preference? Are you kidding me?

??????
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On the first, gay marriage has already been brought up as the last hurdle for gays.

Some people, Inferno included, have put considerable effort into promoting their cause of gay rights. That is something to take pride in.
 
Inferno said:
2009 is the 40th anniversary of that date. June is Pride Month and we celebrate that LGBT rights have progressed as far as they have.
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Well, actually, if they were "proud" of their Pride, wouldn't they at least name their "Pride Month" with some indication of what it was they're supposedly proud of?

So, are their proud of being Americans?

Perhaps they all own daschund puppies?

Are they Spongebob fans and proud of their buble blowing skills?

What are they ashamed of since they're too timid to name their Pride Month meaningfully?
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Well, actually, if they were "proud" of their Pride, wouldn't they at least name their "Pride Month" with some indication of what it was they're supposedly proud of?

So, are their proud of being Americans?

Perhaps they all own daschund puppies?

Are they Spongebob fans and proud of their buble blowing skills?

What are they ashamed of since they're too timid to name their Pride Month meaningfully?
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In 2000, President William Jefferson Clinton proclaimed June to be Gay Pride month in the United States.

On June 1, 2009, President Barack Obama proclaimed June to be LGBT Pride month in the United States
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Source is wiki: [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_pride]Gay pride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Care to try again?
 
Inferno said:
Everyone should be able to proud of themselves.
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For something THEY ACCOMPLISHED, not for something they were born into without prior consent.

What's the point of "black pride"? Is it pride in being the descendants of people who were sold into slavery by their parents and grand parents? What's the point of that?

What's the point of "gay pride", when there's no consensus on whether homosexuality is a genetic defect, a developmental error, or a personal choice? Yes, I used each word correctly, thank you.

If the gay is gay from birth, the genetic defect option, what exists to promote pride? What has the gay accomplished to feel proud about? What has he accomplished if he was made gay by early childhood environmental stresses? The child has no choice, the responses are largely unconscious.

What have they accomplished if they choose gayness over normality? Is that not indicative instead of an underlying mental disorder? Are schizophrenics proud of their disease?

So, what's the point of "[Unspecified] Pride Month"?
 
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