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Diving Mullah

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Been reading about possible information that could compromise Trum and open him to Blackmail. And apparently lots of misconception about this.

Summary


1) There was the former MI6 agent turned private who was originally hired by GOP group who did not want Trump to be the Nominee.


2) When he discovered the said allegations he found it so troubling that he went to those who hired him, and asked if OK to give that information to US government, which they said yes and he did.

3) The said information also disseminated among key GOP and Democrats Senators

4) Mother Jones also reported way back in July

5) All news agency also had the information but because unverified and so troubling they did not reported it.

6) the Said information was also in the Intelligence briefing that Both Obama and Trump received.

7) since the information was in the intelligence briefing but was obtained by a private security company the information can not be classified and the freedom information act requires US intelligence to give that information to the Public. which they did and because it was part of Security briefing to the president 35 page of it.

8) then comes trump to start tweeting it. And goes on the rampage lashing out at CNN, because they reported the first two page of 35 and just the synopsis.

9) Trump starts throwing wrong allegation about intelligence services (saying they leaked the classified information, or the information was somehow new...Not true), furthermore going after news agency who actually was doing his job and reporting the news.


disgusting act for a president to ironically throw false allegation and calling CNN fake news! Funny that is exactly what Putin would do.

Diving Mullah
 
Until any of that stuff in that 35-page memo can be verified, I will remain skeptical.

It's the most reasonable position to take on this, IMO.
 
Diving Mullah said:
Been reading about possible information that could compromise Trum and open him to Blackmail. And apparently lots of misconception about this.

Summary


1) There was the former MI6 agent turned private who was originally hired by GOP group who did not want Trump to be the Nominee.


2) When he discovered the said allegations he found it so troubling that he went to those who hired him, and asked if OK to give that information to US government, which they said yes and he did.

3) The said information also disseminated among key GOP and Democrats Senators

4) Mother Jones also reported way back in July

5) All news agency also had the information but because unverified and so troubling they did not reported it.

6) the Said information was also in the Intelligence briefing that Both Obama and Trump received.

7) since the information was in the intelligence briefing but was obtained by a private security company the information can not be classified and the freedom information act requires US intelligence to give that information to the Public. which they did and because it was part of Security briefing to the president 35 page of it.

8) then comes trump to start tweeting it. And goes on the rampage lashing out at CNN, because they reported the first two page of 35 and just the synopsis.

9) Trump starts throwing wrong allegation about intelligence services (saying they leaked the classified information, or the information was somehow new...Not true), furthermore going after news agency who actually was doing his job and reporting the news.


disgusting act for a president to ironically throw false allegation and calling CNN fake news! Funny that is exactly what Putin would do.

Diving Mullah
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Saw your thread title. Puked.
 
MaggieD said:
Saw your thread title. Puked.
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Really?! How did you feel about "grab that *****"?
If you ask him nicely, he'll probably create some kind of trigger warning for you.
 
Diving Mullah said:
Been reading about possible information that could compromise Trum and open him to Blackmail. And apparently lots of misconception about this.

Summary


1) There was the former MI6 agent turned private who was originally hired by GOP group who did not want Trump to be the Nominee.


2) When he discovered the said allegations he found it so troubling that he went to those who hired him, and asked if OK to give that information to US government, which they said yes and he did.

3) The said information also disseminated among key GOP and Democrats Senators

4) Mother Jones also reported way back in July

5) All news agency also had the information but because unverified and so troubling they did not reported it.

6) the Said information was also in the Intelligence briefing that Both Obama and Trump received.

7) since the information was in the intelligence briefing but was obtained by a private security company the information can not be classified and the freedom information act requires US intelligence to give that information to the Public. which they did and because it was part of Security briefing to the president 35 page of it.

8) then comes trump to start tweeting it. And goes on the rampage lashing out at CNN, because they reported the first two page of 35 and just the synopsis.

9) Trump starts throwing wrong allegation about intelligence services (saying they leaked the classified information, or the information was somehow new...Not true), furthermore going after news agency who actually was doing his job and reporting the news.


disgusting act for a president to ironically throw false allegation and calling CNN fake news! Funny that is exactly what Putin would do.

Diving Mullah
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I don't know where you got all of your information from, but you seem to have left out quite a bit of the whole thing.

1. That British investigator wasn't just hired by the GOP Elites, but also by the Hillary campaign.

2. That British investigator didn't give the info to the US Government. He gave it to McCain, who is one of the GOP Elite, who then passed it on to the government.

3. The information wasn't just given to the GOP Elites, it was also given to the Hillary campaign and the left-wing media. All of those people declined to reveal it because it was unverified.

4. Mother Jones, back in July, only made an oblique reference to some damaging information but didn't reveal what it was. The matter was soon forgotten.

5. The information was mentioned in the briefing for the purpose of showing Trump what kinds of information they get...in this case, information that cannot be verified and should not be included in any analysis.

6. There was no FOIA source for that information. Everyone already knew it. The agencies were not required to give it to the public...but someone in some agency involved in the briefing leaked that the information was talked about. The interesting thing is, though, the leaked information that CNN got from their "unnamed source" wasn't complete nor accurate. CNN ran with it anyway. They spread lies.

7. Trump started tweeting about the issue AFTER CNN and Buzzfeed spread this inaccurate and unverified information and leaked, erroneous information about what happened during a classified intelligence briefing. Both news organizations were guilty of reporting and spreading fake news. And yes, that angered Trump and he spanked both organizations...rightly so...in his press conference.

8. Trump was not wrong in determining that the leak was from someone associated with his classified intelligence briefing...even if the information, itself, was not classified. The fact is, someone in the intelligence community is playing political games. They should not be doing that. It's not their job.

I suspect the intelligence community now realize that their ploy backfired and, sometime after next Friday, they are in for a world of hurt...as they deserve.
 
Can somebody explain the Trump golden shower thing to me? I've been seeing it for several days now and I must have missed the origins.
 
radcen said:
Can somebody explain the Trump golden shower thing to me? I've been seeing it for several days now and I must have missed the origins.
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It originated from some 35-page document from Buzzfeed. According to the document Russia has a video of Trump and a bunch of prostitutes urinating on something with Obama's face on it. And apparently they are using that video as blackmail against Trump.

That, along with the rest of the claims made within that document, are unverified (which Buzzfeed acknowledged).

Personally, I am taking a sceptical stance on these "explosive, but unverified" claims, because this stuff remains unproven and unverified, and a lot of it is sorta ridiculous (especially the golden shower stuff).
 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/...ump-russia-intelligence.html?mtrref=t.co&_r=0

Mr. Steele wrote up his findings in a series of memos, each a few pages long, that he began to deliver to Fusion GPS in June and continued at least until December. By then, the election was over, and neither Mr. Steele nor Mr. Simpson was being paid by a client, but they did not stop what they believed to be very important work. (Mr. Simpson declined to comment for this article, and Mr. Steele did not immediately reply to a request for comment.)
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You may remember Fusion GPS, they were the same democrat organization that was "debunking" the Planned Parenthood videos by Project Veritas. Seems totally legit...
 
TheGoverness said:
Until any of that stuff in that 35-page memo can be verified, I will remain skeptical.

It's the most reasonable position to take on this, IMO.
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Yeah....but, the commentary about it making the rounds on various youtube channels is priceless.
 
This is so dumb, it wont result in Trump resigning even though some people hope the mere allegation of such a tape existing would.
Actual sexual impropriety didn't cause Clinton to resign and does anyone remember Rob Ford they actually had a tape but it was cancer that stopped him running for re-election not the scandal.
 
RickJames3000 said:
Really?! How did you feel about "grab that *****"?
If you ask him nicely, he'll probably create some kind of trigger warning for you.
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Alright, let's get serious. YOU've never said anything in locker room talk like that? Please. Don't bother saying no. If you do, you're lying. Get ****ing real.
 
I would totally believe that Trump likes Golden Showers.

If I found out that this is true I would like him more.
 
TheGoverness said:
It originated from some 35-page document from Buzzfeed. According to the document Russia has a video of Trump and a bunch of prostitutes urinating on something with Obama's face on it. And apparently they are using that video as blackmail against Trump.

That, along with the rest of the claims made within that document, are unverified (which Buzzfeed acknowledged).

Personally, I am taking a sceptical stance on these "explosive, but unverified" claims, because this stuff remains unproven and unverified, and a lot of it is sorta ridiculous (especially the golden shower stuff).
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Ah. I heard something about that but was busy and only half paying attention, so I never made the connection.

Thank you. :)
 
MaggieD said:
Alright, let's get serious. YOU've never said anything in locker room talk like that? Please. Don't bother saying no. If you do, you're lying. Get ****ing real.
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Well that might be mostly in the past, guys tend to be well trained by women now, but guys talking about shaky at best consent sex has always been one of the Hot Topics...

Guys that had a problem with that used to be considered prudes, killjoys you dont want around much...
 
TheGoverness said:
Ewwwwwww.
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Come on...a germaphobe who likes Golden Showers..... that is a conflict so strong you cant help but to stand back with respect and admire.

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TheGoverness said:
It originated from some 35-page document from Buzzfeed. According to the document Russia has a video of Trump and a bunch of prostitutes urinating on something with Obama's face on it. And apparently they are using that video as blackmail against Trump.

That, along with the rest of the claims made within that document, are unverified (which Buzzfeed acknowledged).

Personally, I am taking a sceptical stance on these "explosive, but unverified" claims, because this stuff remains unproven and unverified, and a lot of it is sorta ridiculous (especially the golden shower stuff).
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They better not release the video, unless they want Trump's base to love him more than they already do.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I would totally believe that Trump likes Golden Showers.

If I found out that this is true I would like him more.
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I don't care one bit about whether or not he likes that crap. That's between he and his wife. Perhaps they have an open marriage... I don't know. I don't care. The only way I'd care is if be played the moral majority card and was calling every or anyone elses sex, deviant. He hasn't so I don't care.

I care more about comeys seeming urging of this Intel while pushing out Clinton negatives just before the election.
 
poweRob said:
I don't care one bit about whether or not he likes that crap. That's between he and his wife. Perhaps they have an open marriage... I don't know. I don't care. The only way I'd care is if be played the moral majority card and was calling every or anyone elses sex, deviant. He hasn't so I don't care.

I care more about comeys seeming urging of this Intel while pushing out Clinton negatives just before the election.
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That's right tolerant of you.

We could use more of your kind.
 
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If there is a video, I will do my American duty and watch it. I'll do a full report on here about what I see so anyone opposed to Russian prostitutes peeing on bed sheets won't have to sear that image into their minds.

I would care if the Russians were attempting to coerce the President with this. I would DEFINITELY care if they HAD coerce him with this. I would only slightly care about the actions in the video because many prostitutes are trafficked women being forced into that life against their will. If info came out that proved they were involved in prostitution of their own free will, then I would care much less.
 
MaggieD said:
Alright, let's get serious. YOU've never said anything in locker room talk like that? Please. Don't bother saying no. If you do, you're lying. Get ****ing real.
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No. I've never bragged about sexually assaulting women.
Maybe you should hang out with different men if that is normal for you.
 
Diving Mullah said:
Been reading about possible information that could compromise Trum and open him to Blackmail. And apparently lots of misconception about this.

Summary


1) There was the former MI6 agent turned private who was originally hired by GOP group who did not want Trump to be the Nominee.


2) When he discovered the said allegations he found it so troubling that he went to those who hired him, and asked if OK to give that information to US government, which they said yes and he did.

3) The said information also disseminated among key GOP and Democrats Senators

4) Mother Jones also reported way back in July

5) All news agency also had the information but because unverified and so troubling they did not reported it.

6) the Said information was also in the Intelligence briefing that Both Obama and Trump received.

7) since the information was in the intelligence briefing but was obtained by a private security company the information can not be classified and the freedom information act requires US intelligence to give that information to the Public. which they did and because it was part of Security briefing to the president 35 page of it.

8) then comes trump to start tweeting it. And goes on the rampage lashing out at CNN, because they reported the first two page of 35 and just the synopsis.

9) Trump starts throwing wrong allegation about intelligence services (saying they leaked the classified information, or the information was somehow new...Not true), furthermore going after news agency who actually was doing his job and reporting the news.


disgusting act for a president to ironically throw false allegation and calling CNN fake news! Funny that is exactly what Putin would do.

Diving Mullah
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I think that's a reasonable portrayal, and CNN was accurate in their reporting.

From the original CNN article:

"CNN has reviewed a 35-page compilation of the memos, from which the two-page synopsis was drawn. The memos have since been published by Buzzfeed. The memos originated as opposition research, first commissioned by anti-Trump Republicans, and later by Democrats. At this point, CNN is not reporting on details of the memos, as it has not independently corroborated the specific allegations. But, in preparing this story, CNN has spoken to multiple high ranking intelligence, administration, congressional and law enforcement officials, as well as foreign officials and others in the private sector with direct knowledge of the memos.

Russia denies having "Kompromat" on Donald Tumpte intelligence committees "

Source: Intel chiefs presented Trump with claims of Russian efforts to compromise him
 
TheGoverness said:
Until any of that stuff in that 35-page memo can be verified, I will remain skeptical.

It's the most reasonable position to take on this, IMO.
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As you should. the issue is not whether they are true or not. 7 intelligence agencies are looking into it. The issue is Why Trump so hostile to CNN for reporting what intelligence agency thought so important to report it to GOP/DEM leadership, President Obama and Warn Trump that he maybe target for BlackMail.

Diving Mullah
 
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