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  • Andrew Jackson, 7th president of the United States, was born in the back woods, a son of Scotts-Irish folk.
  • He served in the American Revolution at the age of 13 and was captured and mistreated by the British.
  • He rose to prominence through his military exploits. He was vicious in his pursuit and treatment of native Indians.
  • He became a lawyer and was elected to the US House and twice to the US Senate.
  • He owned a plantation and hundreds of slaves, and he made a fortune in real estate and merchandise.
  • He killed a man in a duel over his wife’s honor. This gave him a reputation as a violent and vengeful man.
  • He ran for President in 1824. When he lost he claimed the election was rigged.
  • He founded what became the Democratic Party by setting back woods folks against the elites of the coast.
  • His opponents called him Andy Jackass, a moniker that later inspired the symbol for his party.
  • He ran for President again in 1828 and won.
  • After he took office as President South Caroline threatened to secede over a tariff enacted by Adams, the previous President. He threatened military force to prevent that, and the situation ended when the tariff was rescinded.
  • He won re-election by casting himself as the hero of the common man against the interests of big bankers.
  • Jackson became known for “Jacksonian democracy” the passing of political power from the elites to ordinary voters by way of political parties.
  • His followers were the common people whose manners were often crude, and Jackson became known as King Mob after they over-ran his inauguration ceremony with sheer numbers.
  • Parties at the White House became known for the crowds of back woodsmen that attended them and the barrels of whiskey drunk.
  • He had a habit of granting audience to any citizen who walked in the door of the White House. On one occasion he invited the people in to have some cheese cut from a large wheel of cheese given to him.
  • Scandal and rumor mongering hampered his term early on. He responded by buying his own newspaper with which he could go directly to the people to counter the rumors.
  • He thought that the President and Vice President should be elected by the people and called repeatedly for abolishing the Electoral College.
  • He started the spoils system by giving party cronies jobs in government. This led to an overall decline in government ethics.
  • His mismanagement of the monetary system led to a depression in 1837, and he ended his second term under a cloud of unpopularity.
 
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Is DP trying to compete with wikipedia now?:lol:
 
Ben Franklin was the first American diplomat.
 
George Washington was the first President of the United States.
 
There was a good movie in the theaters not long ago by Dinesh D'souza, that gave a pretty solid background of the Democratic party. Democrats were not allowed to watch the movie, due to the rigid dogma of the left, but it was good for those of us who were allowed to see it.
 
A crocodile cannot stick its tongue out.
 
LowDown said:
  • Andrew Jackson, 7th president of the United States, was born in the back woods, a son of Scotts-Irish folk.
  • He served in the American Revolution at the age of 13 and was captured and mistreated by the British.
  • He rose to prominence through his military exploits. He was vicious in his pursuit and treatment of native Indians.
  • He became a lawyer and was elected to the US House and twice to the US Senate.
  • He owned a plantation and hundreds of slaves, and he made a fortune in real estate and merchandise.
  • He killed a man in a duel over his wife’s honor. This gave him a reputation as a violent and vengeful man.
  • He ran for President in 1824. When he lost he claimed the election was rigged.
  • He founded what became the Democratic Party by setting back woods folks against the elites of the coast.
  • His opponents called him Andy Jackass, a moniker that later inspired the symbol for his party.
  • He ran for President again in 1828 and won.
  • After he took office as President South Caroline threatened to secede over a tariff enacted by Adams, the previous President. He threatened military force to prevent that, and the situation ended when the tariff was rescinded.
  • He won re-election by casting himself as the hero of the common man against the interests of big bankers.
  • Jackson became known for “Jacksonian democracy” the passing of political power from the elites to ordinary voters by way of political parties.
  • His followers were the common people whose manners were often crude, and Jackson became known as King Mob after they over-ran his inauguration ceremony with sheer numbers.
  • Parties at the White House became known for the crowds of back woodsmen that attended them and the barrels of whiskey drunk.
  • He had a habit of granting audience to any citizen who walked in the door of the White House. On one occasion he invited the people in to have some cheese cut from a large wheel of cheese given to him.
  • Scandal and rumor mongering hampered his term early on. He responded by buying his own newspaper with which he could go directly to the people to counter the rumors.
  • He thought that the President and Vice President should be elected by the people and called repeatedly for abolishing the Electoral College.
  • He started the spoils system by giving party cronies jobs in government. This led to an overall decline in government ethics.
  • His mismanagement of the monetary system led to a depression in 1837, and he ended his second term under a cloud of unpopularity.
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It is exceedingly rare to find so perfect a sphere in nature, a structure with absolutely no points sticking out.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Point being?
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Allow me to be more explicit:

Drain The Swamp - Jackson decimated the civil service, firing 10% of federal employees for incompetence and then instituting time limits on their employment for the rest.

Make America Great - Jackson celebrated the common man, inviting them to the White House and antagonizing elites at every turn. The ordinary voters regarded Jackson as their champion.

Get the Federal Government Off the Backs of the People and Get the Economy Going - Jackson pulled federal money out of the national banks and sent it to state banks where it could be loaned to locals.

Immigration - American Indians were removed from the Western lands and put out in territories under Jackson's policy.

Build a Movement That Will Last - Jackson established a political organization at the local, city, state, and national level that was made up of ordinary voters and eventually became the oldest political party, the Democratic Party.

A Crude, Rude Man - Jackson was painted as an angry, violent, and dangerous man by his opponents. The voters were not put off by this.
 
LowDown said:
  • Andrew Jackson, 7th president of the United States, was born in the back woods, a son of Scotts-Irish folk.
  • He served in the American Revolution at the age of 13 and was captured and mistreated by the British.
  • He rose to prominence through his military exploits. He was vicious in his pursuit and treatment of native Indians.
  • He became a lawyer and was elected to the US House and twice to the US Senate.
  • He owned a plantation and hundreds of slaves, and he made a fortune in real estate and merchandise.
  • He killed a man in a duel over his wife’s honor. This gave him a reputation as a violent and vengeful man.
  • He ran for President in 1824. When he lost he claimed the election was rigged.
  • He founded what became the Democratic Party by setting back woods folks against the elites of the coast.
  • His opponents called him Andy Jackass, a moniker that later inspired the symbol for his party.
  • He ran for President again in 1828 and won.
  • After he took office as President South Caroline threatened to secede over a tariff enacted by Adams, the previous President. He threatened military force to prevent that, and the situation ended when the tariff was rescinded.
  • He won re-election by casting himself as the hero of the common man against the interests of big bankers.
  • Jackson became known for “Jacksonian democracy” the passing of political power from the elites to ordinary voters by way of political parties.
  • His followers were the common people whose manners were often crude, and Jackson became known as King Mob after they over-ran his inauguration ceremony with sheer numbers.
  • Parties at the White House became known for the crowds of back woodsmen that attended them and the barrels of whiskey drunk.
  • He had a habit of granting audience to any citizen who walked in the door of the White House. On one occasion he invited the people in to have some cheese cut from a large wheel of cheese given to him.
  • Scandal and rumor mongering hampered his term early on. He responded by buying his own newspaper with which he could go directly to the people to counter the rumors.
  • He thought that the President and Vice President should be elected by the people and called repeatedly for abolishing the Electoral College.
  • He started the spoils system by giving party cronies jobs in government. This led to an overall decline in government ethics.
  • His mismanagement of the monetary system led to a depression in 1837, and he ended his second term under a cloud of unpopularity.
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Greetings, LowDown. :2wave:

It is said that history repeats - I wonder if it's history's turn again in the lottery the universe conducts! :lamo
 
Jackson was also the last president to finish his term without increasing the national debt.
 
KevinKohler said:
Jackson was also the last president to finish his term without increasing the national debt.
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He did plunge the economy into depression though, I think that makes up for it.
 
LowDown said:
Allow me to be more explicit:

Drain The Swamp - Jackson decimated the civil service, firing 10% of federal employees for incompetence and then instituting time limits on their employment for the rest.

Make America Great - Jackson celebrated the common man, inviting them to the White House and antagonizing elites at every turn. The ordinary voters regarded Jackson as their champion.

Get the Federal Government Off the Backs of the People and Get the Economy Going - Jackson pulled federal money out of the national banks and sent it to state banks where it could be loaned to locals.

Immigration - American Indians were removed from the Western lands and put out in territories under Jackson's policy.

Build a Movement That Will Last - Jackson established a political organization at the local, city, state, and national level that was made up of ordinary voters and eventually became the oldest political party, the Democratic Party.

A Crude, Rude Man - Jackson was painted as an angry, violent, and dangerous man by his opponents. The voters were not put off by this.
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Comparing Jackson to Trump are we? Jackson won the popular vote and lost the 1824 election to John Quincy Adams because of the electoral college. Trump won the 2016 election because of the electoral college while losing the popular vote. Jackson split with and left Thomas Jefferson's Republican Party or Democratic-Republican Party as historian's refer to it to create his own political party, Trump joined the established Republican party for the third time in his life. He also had been a Democratic three times, an independent three times and a member of my tiny Reform Party for about a year.

Jackson was a war hero and a military man. Jackson had experience in government outside of the military, first as a congressman and then as a senator. Experience Trump doesn't have.
 
LowDown said:
Allow me to be more explicit:

Drain The Swamp - Jackson decimated the civil service, firing 10% of federal employees for incompetence and then instituting time limits on their employment for the rest.

Make America Great - Jackson celebrated the common man, inviting them to the White House and antagonizing elites at every turn. The ordinary voters regarded Jackson as their champion.

Get the Federal Government Off the Backs of the People and Get the Economy Going - Jackson pulled federal money out of the national banks and sent it to state banks where it could be loaned to locals.

Immigration - American Indians were removed from the Western lands and put out in territories under Jackson's policy.

Build a Movement That Will Last - Jackson established a political organization at the local, city, state, and national level that was made up of ordinary voters and eventually became the oldest political party, the Democratic Party.

A Crude, Rude Man - Jackson was painted as an angry, violent, and dangerous man by his opponents. The voters were not put off by this.
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So either you are saying that Americans haven't progressed at all in our thinking since the early 1800s(when, you know, just about everybody was racist and we still had slavery) or that Trump really isn't as unique as you people seem to think because a democrat came up with his ideas years ago.

Oh, and by the way, the idea that moving the people who lived here before we did counts as "immigration" is hilarious.

Plus, you know, Jackson was a war hero. Donald Trump, conversely, said that avoiding STDs was his Vietnam.
 
Perotista said:
Comparing Jackson to Trump are we? Jackson won the popular vote and lost the 1824 election to John Quincy Adams because of the electoral college. Trump won the 2016 election because of the electoral college while losing the popular vote. Jackson split with and left Thomas Jefferson's Republican Party or Democratic-Republican Party as historian's refer to it to create his own political party, Trump joined the established Republican party for the third time in his life. He also had been a Democratic three times, an independent three times and a member of my tiny Reform Party for about a year.

Jackson was a war hero and a military man. Jackson had experience in government outside of the military, first as a congressman and then as a senator. Experience Trump doesn't have.
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Nice job dismissing more tds--trump deflection syndrome--and pc--phony comparisons .
 
LowDown said:
Allow me to be more explicit:

Drain The Swamp - Jackson decimated the civil service, firing 10% of federal employees for incompetence and then instituting time limits on their employment for the rest.

Make America Great - Jackson celebrated the common man, inviting them to the White House and antagonizing elites at every turn. The ordinary voters regarded Jackson as their champion.

Get the Federal Government Off the Backs of the People and Get the Economy Going - Jackson pulled federal money out of the national banks and sent it to state banks where it could be loaned to locals.

Immigration - American Indians were removed from the Western lands and put out in territories under Jackson's policy.

Build a Movement That Will Last - Jackson established a political organization at the local, city, state, and national level that was made up of ordinary voters and eventually became the oldest political party, the Democratic Party.

A Crude, Rude Man - Jackson was painted as an angry, violent, and dangerous man by his opponents. The voters were not put off by this.
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Did Jackson ever smear the memories of Prisoners of War ?
 
NIMBY said:
Nice job dismissing more tds--trump deflection syndrome--and pc--phony comparisons .
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Comparing any modern person with someone from the past is usually pretty flawed if one looks into it. Sure, there can be similarities in some instances, but there will always be more differences. Each individual is unique to his time. Jackson was an icon in his own time. First because of his war experiences and successes, then as president. What exactly are we trying to compare here, we have the battle of New Orleans vs. "You're Fired."

But not to worry, I would have done the same to Hillary Clinton if someone tried to compare her to an icon of the past.
 
Perotista said:
Comparing any modern person with someone from the past is usually pretty flawed if one looks into it. Sure, there can be similarities in some instances, but there will always be more differences. Each individual is unique to his time. Jackson was an icon in his own time. First because of his war experiences and successes, then as president. What exactly are we trying to compare here, we have the battle of New Orleans vs. "You're Fired."

But not to worry, I would have done the same to Hillary Clinton if someone tried to compare her to an icon of the past.
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The OP didn't address Jackson's support for a strong central federal government and his opposition to tariffs and nullification, all strong tenets of today's GOP.

I doubt if today's GOP congress would have Mattis on the fast track without a House hearing if Clinton would have nominated him. We both know we'd have a constitutional crisis right now with GOP kangaroo courts.

I've tracked down some election numbers from GA, even on the state level. You have 180 house members and only 34 had a race--97 GOPs unopposed and 49 DEMs. Of your 14 reps, 5 had no opponent--4 Rs and 1 D--CDs 1, 9, 10, 13, and 14
 
NIMBY said:
The OP didn't address Jackson's support for a strong central federal government and his opposition to tariffs and nullification, all strong tenets of today's GOP.

I doubt if today's GOP congress would have Mattis on the fast track without a House hearing if Clinton would have nominated him. We both know we'd have a constitutional crisis right now with GOP kangaroo courts.

I've tracked down some election numbers from GA, even on the state level. You have 180 house members and only 34 had a race--97 GOPs unopposed and 49 DEMs. Of your 14 reps, 5 had no opponent--4 Rs and 1 D--CDs 1, 9, 10, 13, and 14
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There are several nominations that the Democrats will oppose as much as they can. Their problem is Senator Harry Reid's use of the nuclear option in presidential appointments. Remember back then you was all in favor of it, myself totally against it. Although I always felt any president should have those around him whom that president wants. If they do good that reflects on the president, if they do bad, that also reflects on the president. That reflection is true with or without confirmation hearings.

The only way the senate can give a proper vetting anymore since the Senator Harry Reid's nuclear option is for the senate to be in the hands of the opposition party. By using the nuclear option as I stated back then when Reid used it, it eliminated one of the checks and balances, it eliminated a minority right. That I find amusing, the Democrats eliminating a minority right.

As for Georgia, yeah, I live in a district where our sitting congressman had no opposition. David Scott is my congressman. Having to have per federal mandate three or four majority minority districts and our redistricting approved by a federal court prior it implementation, is the biggest reason for the 9-5 split. Four of the five Democratic held seats are in and around Atlanta which in and around Atlanta is where most blacks live. The only other Democratic district is in the southwest portion of Georgia which includes Columbus Georgia which is approximately 50% black. Most areas in and around Atlanta are from 50-60 black. Georgia's has a black population of around 30-35%.

So what this majority minority mandate from the federal government is pretty much segregates our congressional districts into black and white. Its the law and a federal court oversees it. I suppose you could call it federally mandated segregation.
 
Perotista said:
There are several nominations that the Democrats will oppose as much as they can. Their problem is Senator Harry Reid's use of the nuclear option in presidential appointments. Remember back then you was all in favor of it, myself totally against it. Although I always felt any president should have those around him whom that president wants. If they do good that reflects on the president, if they do bad, that also reflects on the president. That reflection is true with or without confirmation hearings.
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It's entirely impossible for you to support Obama getting his picks as the president and be opposed to Reid using the GOP-generated nuclear option, given what McConnell was doing with the filibuster.

Check out Nixon and the nuclear option in 1957 and Frist with the GOP nuclear option in 2005.

We'll see if Democrats can use the nuclear option against the GOP congress and state houses in the 2018 elections .
 
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