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Are corrupt US intel agencies blackmailing Trump with their own dirt.............

beerftw said:
You are goving too much credit to them, if they were to blackmail trump, they would take blurry out of focus bigfoot esque photos of his limo and present it as a wmd mobile factory for the trump regime.
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you have a point.
 
trump will be the one blackmailing his own intelligence agencies on what putin gives him.

trump has already signaled he will overhaul the intelligence agencies to protect his brand.

trump has certainly exhibited behaviors that would lead to a police state .
 
This has to be one of the worst post ever on a message board. If they wanted to do in Trump, they could have done it before the election. They held up doing so as not to effect the election. You sould like a Russian to me. They apparently have info on Trump that they wish to use to force him to do as they want. Now that the cat is out of the bag, their info is worthless.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
No. There is no credible evidence whatsoever that they are, nor is there any rational reason that they would.

Please try again.
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And is your 'opinion' on this worth more than anyone elses?

How about that he has criticized IC quite a lot and I'm sure has plans to replace leadership. that to me would be a reason.
possible budget cuts or scrutiny would be another. I don't know if that's what they are trying to do but there is reasoning that they might.
 
SocialD said:
And is your 'opinion' on this worth more than anyone elses?
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In the absence of any and all credible evidence to the contrary? Yes, it is, and thanks for asking.
How about that he has criticized IC quite a lot and I'm sure has plans to replace leadership. that to me would be a reason.
possible budget cuts or scrutiny would be another. I don't know if that's what they are trying to do but there is reasoning that they might.
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Empty speculation, there's still no evidence and that's not a particularly rational reason to do so.

You go ahead and run with that. I'll take something breatless conjecture not based in anything of substance from a clown like Drudge.
 
independentusa said:
This has to be one of the worst post ever on a message board. If they wanted to do in Trump, they could have done it before the election. They held up doing so as not to effect the election. You sould like a Russian to me. They apparently have info on Trump that they wish to use to force him to do as they want. Now that the cat is out of the bag, their info is worthless.
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You need to broaden your perspective. The Mainstream Media that you absorb is destroying your ability to think. Presidents are elected. Intelligence Agencies are already in place when a new Prez moves in. Maybe they've been in place for 25-30 years. They want to keep doing what they been doing. The new Prez doesn't even know what they been doing. They're attempting to leverage their power against Trump to do their bidding, by rook or by crook. Not good guys. They brought you Iraq and WMD. Syria and WMD and it was/is the USA ally Nusra Front that has the poison gas. Qaddaffi/Libya and they've installed a system of chaos, destruction and death. Ukraine, oligarchs, and Nazis and they're the CIA goombahs. These people want to convince Trump that they need to keep on doing the same thing. That's what all the BS with Russia, and compromising info is about. Leverage against Trump and the USA citizens.
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Tanngrisnir said:
In the absence of any and all credible evidence to the contrary? Yes, it is, and thanks for asking.

Empty speculation, there's still no evidence and that's not a particularly rational reason to do so.

You go ahead and run with that. I'll take something breatless conjecture not based in anything of substance from a clown like Drudge.
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You mentioned both evidence to the contrary but you also mentioned a reason they would. I am discussing the latter.
Apparently you are not familiar with 'motive'. or in other words the establishment of a reason for someone(s) to do something. this is not the establishment of evidence that they actually did it.
Your reply of course is to forget that you mentioned reason and only talk about evidence. I guess you were busy patting yourself on the back regarding your view that your opinion is more valuable than other peoples.
 
If it's true the Russians have dirt on Trump...then its more likely they're the ones that are blackmailing him to do their bidding...and not US intelligence.

The US Ambassador to Russia gave McCain the memo's who in turn gave them to the FBI. But a former MI6 operative in Rome had already given the memos to the FBI. It seems like almost everyone knew about those memos for months...except the American people. In October, Harry Reid demanded the FBI release the memos....

"In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government…The public has a right to know this information."

A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump | Mother Jones
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SocialD said:
You mentioned both evidence to the contrary but you also mentioned a reason they would. I am discussing the latter.
Apparently you are not familiar with 'motive'. or in other words the establishment of a reason for someone(s) to do something. this is not the establishment of evidence that they actually did it.
Your reply of course is to forget that you mentioned reason and only talk about evidence. I guess you were busy patting yourself on the back regarding your view that your opinion is more valuable than other peoples.
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No, I mentioned there's no rational reason that they would.

All you have is empty blather.
 
MickeyW said:
........cleverly tagged to 'Russian' operatives?

https://twitter.com/DRUDGE/status/818983576935034881


A distinct possibility....
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It was a question we toughed here in the forum long before the election. It seemed difficult to believe that the government has robust information of severely compromising nature. On the other hand, it could easily be that intercepts et alias have been caught in the meantime.
 
No. The worst you can say about them is just that they might be wrong.
 
Chomsky said:
No.

But I do suspect at Friday's intel meeting Trump got to see all the classified dirt U.S. Intel & MI6 had on him, and decided he didn't want to screw with them anymore.
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He also now knows that the Russians could put pressure on him and more or less what the nature of the material might be that they could use. And he knows that the Senate and others have it and that the media will soon....
 
independentusa said:
This has to be one of the worst post ever on a message board. If they wanted to do in Trump, they could have done it before the election. They held up doing so as not to effect the election. You sould like a Russian to me. They apparently have info on Trump that they wish to use to force him to do as they want. Now that the cat is out of the bag, their info is worthless.
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That depends on the information and how the public learns its content.

There is a very interesting conundrum in this. What information would it be wise to make public knowing that information is in the hands of persons that might not always be nice to him?
 
So the Intel Community is blackmailing him into working for Russia...

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