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The Latest: Dylann Roof sentenced to die for church slayings

prometeus said:
I guess on of the factors is the life expectancy of the condemned. Still, in such a case I say execute within 30 days, that cuts down on costs.
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I want them executed faster than that. Once they have their mandatory appeal, they are taken directly from the courtroom and have a bullet put in their brain.
 
VanceMack said:
True...but then we simply perpetuate violence in the population. Society should be responsible for law and order.
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Yeah. I prefer he be executed all legal like than be torn limb from limb by angry folk. The needle works for me.
 
calamity said:
Yeah. I prefer he be executed all legal like than be torn limb from limb by angry folk. The needle works for me.
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I would agree.
 
RAMOSS said:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-prosecutors-expect-lengthy-closing-sentencing-145240647.html

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A federal jury has sentenced Dylann Roof to death for killing nine black church members in a racially motivated attack in 2015.



Roof, who is white, faced either life in prison or execution for the slayings on June 17, 2015. The Justice Department says he is the first person to get the death penalty for federal hate crimes.
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Hopefully its one of those "botched" executions that takes 30 minutes or longer to kill him while he is suffering.
 
jamesrage said:
Hopefully its one of those "botched" executions that takes 30 minutes or longer to kill him while he is suffering.
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Hoping that people suffer is creepy.
 
Deuce said:
Sure, if you like to have fewer checks against executing the innocent.
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Fewer? Lets see. Capital case...automatic state legal review. Schedule an immediate appeal. If there is standing, schedule an appeal at a federal court level. Apply for clemency. How long should that take in the Dylan Roof case? What do you think would be different?
 
Deuce said:
Hoping that people suffer is creepy.
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Hoping people suffer is a normal human response. A penal system created to cause suffering...THAT would be creepy.
 
Andalublue said:
If you're going to have the death penalty, I guess it's to deal with people just like Dylann Roof, however the fact that this murderous monster is the very antithesis of humanity doesn't mean I suddenly drop my fundamental objection to the death penalty. He should spend a long life in high security incarceration. I hope the sentence gets commuted, not for his sake, but for that of civilisation.
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The only thing I could really add to this post is that in principle I do actually believe it's possible to behave so horribly that one can forfeit their right to life. That said, so long as there's that little thing called "human error," the death penalty is a flawed idea that must be done away with.
 
RAMOSS said:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-prosecutors-expect-lengthy-closing-sentencing-145240647.html

4:45 p.m.



A federal jury has sentenced Dylann Roof to death for killing nine black church members in a racially motivated attack in 2015.



Roof, who is white, faced either life in prison or execution for the slayings on June 17, 2015. The Justice Department says he is the first person to get the death penalty for federal hate crimes.
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He will be pardoned because the racist misogynist klan hat wearinist in chief will never betray his basket of deplorables. This only occured because the tan suit wearinist kenyan socialist dictator refused to use his power to double indict him.

Add in any other rediculous meme, someone probably already shouting it.


But to be serious he deserves the death penalty, what he did should never be excused and will not be as long as the people in govt have even the slightest shred of human decency.
 
Cardinal said:
The only thing I could really add to this post is that in principle I do actually believe it's possible to behave so horribly that one can forfeit their right to life. That said, so long as there's that little thing called "human error," the death penalty is a flawed idea that must be done away with.
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I'm actually against the death penalty myself but does it really differ much from keeping an innocent person locked up for the rest of their lives? Is that what you are saying, don't kill the person because they might be innocent but that it is ok to lock them up forever?
 
Moderate Right said:
I'm actually against the death penalty myself but does it really differ much from keeping an innocent person locked up for the rest of their lives? Is that what you are saying, don't kill the person because they might be innocent but that it is ok to lock them up forever?
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An innocent person has the possibility of appealing the conviction, but if he's killed then that avenue is closed permanently.
 
Cardinal said:
An innocent person has the possibility of appealing the conviction, but if he's killed then that avenue is closed permanently.
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By the time someone is put to death they have already done all of the appealing they can do. By that time if they aren't put to death then they are destined to be in jail for life. It's not like they are going to get a new trial sometime.
 
Moderate Right said:
By the time someone is put to death they have already done all of the appealing they can do. By that time if they aren't put to death then they are destined to be in jail for life. It's not like they are going to get a new trial sometime.
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If new evidence comes to light then it can be heard. I'm not mollified at the idea that somebody's conviction can only be overturned in memoriam. I'm also not thrilled at the implication that the death penalty should be taken as some kind of act of compassion for a wrongly convicted person versus a life sentence. I don't think anybody wants the state to be making that kind of determination.
 
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Cardinal said:
If new evidence comes to light then it can be heard. I'm not mollified at the idea that somebody's conviction can only be overturned in memoriam. I'm also not thrilled at the implication that the death penalty should be taken as some kind of compassion for a wrongly convicted person versus a life sentence. I don't think anybody wants the state to be making that kind of determination.
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I find it interesting that many of the people who mistrust the government about everything else will trust them with the power of implimenting a death penalty with convictions.
 
RAMOSS said:
I find it interesting that many of the people who mistrust the government about everything else will trust them with the power of implimenting a death penalty with convictions.
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In this case it's a no brainer and has little to nothing to do with trust.

Every case is different.
 
RAMOSS said:
I find it interesting that many of the people who mistrust the government about everything else will trust them with the power of implimenting a death penalty with convictions.
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That's not the only goofy combination of beliefs. The other one is a fear of stormtrooping police stomping on their rights. Unless the people's rights in question are those of black people, in which case the police are always right.
 
RAMOSS said:
I think you should get a grip on yourself.
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That was Punny. I think the schmuck would be better punished by not killing him quickly and painlessly but let him be a "toe tag parolee" where he's a real popular boy with the black inmates
 
Ockham said:
In this case it's a no brainer and has little to nothing to do with trust.

Every case is different.
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On the contrary.. it has everything to do with trust. And , make an exception wiht one person, there is no reason to keep the pattern for everyone else.
 
RAMOSS said:
I find it interesting that many of the people who mistrust the government about everything else will trust them with the power of implimenting a death penalty with convictions.
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which is why I am not a fan of the death penalty. Now if one of the family members of the people killed by Roof were to whack him, that wouldn't bother me much at all
 
TurtleDude said:
That was Punny. I think the schmuck would be better punished by not killing him quickly and painlessly but let him be a "toe tag parolee" where he's a real popular boy with the black inmates
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I was thinking of having him as Tyrone's cell mate.
 
RAMOSS said:
On the contrary.. it has everything to do with trust. And , make an exception wiht one person, there is no reason to keep the pattern for everyone else.
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Expound how it has everything to do with trust in this specific case.
 
TurtleDude said:
which is why I am not a fan of the death penalty. Now if one of the family members of the people killed by Roof were to whack him, that wouldn't bother me much at all
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I can respect that position. My objection to the death penalty is more moralistic that just that. On the other hand, I also would not object to having doctor assisted suicides for people sentenced to life in prison.
 
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