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Do you care what Hollywood thinks about Donald Trump?

Do you care what Hollywood thinks of Donald Trump?

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MaggieD said:
Why or why not?
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It's not that I care one way or another but it's their right to state their opinion. If I had an opinion I wanted to share and the platform to do so, why not take advantage? It is a good point that we shouldn't mock disabled people, or no?
 
Hell no.

I don't care anyone thinks of Trump, but it sure is fun reading about it.

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NY Times has a good article about the Streep-Trump flap and yet again the bait is taken by Trumplethinskin and he overreacts severely calling into question his own well known issues of lack of self control and good judgement.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/09/movies/trump-meryl-streep-golden-globes-speech.html?_r=0

Trump is just a clown - a bad clown - a sad clown and a buffoon who fails to make anybody laugh.

His response was pathetic for somebody pretending to assume the mantle of the most important public office in the world. This is just pathetic.
 
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I didn't support him, but I care as much about what Hollywood thinks of him as I care about what they think about Corn Flakes, which is absolutely nothing.

Meryl Streep can shove it.
 
TheGoverness said:
Not really. I don't much care for Hollywood's political opinions in general.

EDIT: Those poll options don't really go with the question.
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I'm not sure why you don't think they go. Whether or not one supports him is useful information as to yes or no.
 
haymarket said:
NY Times has a good article about the Streep-Trump flap and yet again the bait is taken by Trumplethinskin and he overreacts severely calling into question his own well known issues of lack of self control and good judgement.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/09/movies/trump-meryl-streep-golden-globes-speech.html?_r=0

Trump is just a clown - a bad clown - a sad clown and a buffoon who fails to make anybody laugh.

His response was pathetic for somebody pretending to assume the mantle of the most important public office in the world. This is just pathetic.
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Exactly. Her speech was at least well thought out and spoken eloquently. His response is laughably what you'd expect from a high school girl, not as you said, someone who is to be our president.
 
"Hollywood" is not a person. It can't think.

Meryl Streep is entitled to her opinions. You may care about them or not, but she is not Hollywood, she is Meryl Streep. Clint Eastwood has just as much cachet in the industry as Meryl Streep, yet I'd venture their opinions differ greatly.
 
MaggieD said:
I'm not sure why you don't think they go. Whether or not one supports him is useful information as to yes or no.
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'Yes' or 'No' poll options would allow everyone to answer the question that you asked.

Asking if one supports Donald Trump or not doesn't relate to the poll question.

EDIT: Nevermind. I misread that entirely.

My bad.
 
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MaggieD said:
Why or why not?
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Though I answered No, I don't support him was because there was no "I couldn't care less what Hollywood thinks, but I'm going to wait and see what Trump does with his Presidency".

He had the chutzpah to get there, so for that I'll give him creds. Let's see if he actually does any of the things he promised.
 
tres borrachos said:
I didn't support him, but I care as much about what Hollywood thinks of him as I care about what they think about Corn Flakes, which is absolutely nothing.

Meryl Streep can shove it.
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What, exactly, did Meryl Streep say that was so objectionable that she should "shove it"?
 
TheGoverness said:
'Yes' or 'No' poll options would allow everyone to answer the question that you asked.

Asking if one supports Donald Trump or not doesn't relate to the poll question.
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Well yeah. I don't support Donald Trump one iota, but nothing Meryl Streep says is really going to influence that one way or another.
 
Kobie said:
What, exactly, did Meryl Streep say that was so objectionable that she should "shove it"?
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Here is what she said. I can see several points she made that I fully agree with. I can't believe someone would slam her for making such great points. Then again, maybe it's not so hard to believe. After all, it is Hollywood. :lol:


Meryl Streep's Golden Globes Speech Full Transcript - Meryl Streep Gave a Powerful Speech at the Golden Globes

"Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Please sit down. Please sit down. Thank you. I love you all. You'll have to forgive me. I've lost my voice in screaming and lamentation this weekend. And I have lost my mind sometime earlier this year. So I have to read.

Thank you, Hollywood foreign press. Just to pick up on what Hugh Laurie said. You and all of us in this room, really, belong to the most vilified segments in American society right now. Think about it. Hollywood, foreigners, and the press. But who are we? And, you know, what is Hollywood anyway? It's just a bunch of people from other places.

I was born and raised and created in the public schools of New Jersey. Viola [Davis] was born in a sharecropper's cabin in South Carolina, and grew up in Central Falls, Rhode Island. Sarah Paulson was raised by a single mom in Brooklyn. Sarah Jessica Parker was one of seven or eight kids from Ohio. Amy Adams was born in Italy. Natalie Portman was born in Jerusalem. Where are their birth certificates? And the beautiful Ruth Negga was born in Ethiopia, raised in -- no, in Ireland, I do believe. And she's here nominated for playing a small town girl from Virginia. Ryan Gosling, like all the nicest people, is Canadian. And Dev Patel was born in Kenya, raised in London, is here for playing an Indian raised in Tasmania.

Hollywood is crawling with outsiders and foreigners. If you kick 'em all out, you'll have nothing to watch but football and mixed martial arts, which are not the arts. They gave me three seconds to say this. An actor's only job is to enter the lives of people who are different from us and let you feel what that feels like. And there were many, many, many powerful performances this year that did exactly that, breathtaking, passionate work.

There was one performance this year that stunned me. It sank its hooks in my heart. Not because it was good. There was nothing good about it. But it was effective and it did its job. It made its intended audience laugh and show their teeth. It was that moment when the person asking to sit in the most respected seat in our country imitated a disabled reporter, someone he outranked in privilege, power, and the capacity to fight back. It kind of broke my heart when I saw it. I still can't get it out of my head because it wasn't in a movie. It was real life.

And this instinct to humiliate, when it's modeled by someone in the public platform, by someone powerful, it filters down into everybody's life, because it kind of gives permission for other people to do the same thing. Disrespect invites disrespect. Violence incites violence. When the powerful use their position to bully others, we all lose.

This brings me to the press. We need the principled press to hold power to account, to call them on the carpet for every outrage.That's why our founders enshrined the press and its freedoms in our constitution. So I only ask the famously well-heeled Hollywood Foreign Press and all of us in our community to join me in supporting the committee to protect journalists. Because we're going to need them going forward. And they'll need us to safeguard the truth.

One more thing. Once when I was standing around on the set one day whining about something, we were going to work through supper, or the long hours or whatever, Tommy Lee Jones said to me, isn't it such a privilege, Meryl, just to be an actor. Yeah, it is. And we have to remind each other of the privilege and the responsibility of the act of empathy. We should all be very proud of the work Hollywood honors here tonight.

As my friend, the dear departed Princess Leia, said to me once, take your broken heart, make it into art. Thank you."
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Hollywood is just the real world hiding behind imagery. I'll support Trump until he screws up big time. At least he is a welcome change to the World of carefully chosen statements that don't answer any real questions. Let's give him a chance. We own him.
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Kobie said:
"Hollywood" is not a person. It can't think.

Meryl Streep is entitled to her opinions. You may care about them or not, but she is not Hollywood, she is Meryl Streep. Clint Eastwood has just as much cachet in the industry as Meryl Streep, yet I'd venture their opinions differ greatly.
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This is true however, Clint Eastwood has actually done things in his life besides pretending to be a fictional character.

FWIW being a fictional character doesn't count for much in real life. Kind of like a cigarette...people smoke them but, they do nothing for us.
 
MaggieD said:
Why or why not?
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Hollywood is a place. Places do not think. The people in Hollywood split on who they supported for president, just like the rest of the country.
 
Kobie said:
"Hollywood" is not a person. It can't think.

Meryl Streep is entitled to her opinions. You may care about them or not, but she is not Hollywood, she is Meryl Streep. Clint Eastwood has just as much cachet in the industry as Meryl Streep, yet I'd venture their opinions differ greatly.
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When Eastwood embarrassed himself at the GOP convention with that never ending rant to an empty chair - lots of people on the right seemed to love it. And others hated it. But I do not remember anyone including Obama who was the target his ire resorting to grade school stupidity saying he was not a great actor or director. For Trump to stoop to calling Streep overrated is just a sign of how badly out of his league he is.
 
americanwoman said:
Here is what she said. I can see several points she made that I fully agree with. I can't believe someone would slam her for making such great points. Then again, maybe it's not so hard to believe. After all, it is Hollywood. :lol:


Meryl Streep's Golden Globes Speech Full Transcript - Meryl Streep Gave a Powerful Speech at the Golden Globes
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Nothing wrong with what she said, and it was stated well and eloquently. I am no Trump supporter, I think it's going to get worse now that we have a Reality TV President. A bit of hyperbole because even when taken in its most extreme, I don't think Trump's position is to kick out all foreigners. Though that's not a defense of his policy.

Still, Trump did play the part of the actor well, he knows vapid drama drives a lot of entertainment these days, and he played to the entertainment. He got the press caught up with him, he got the people, one way or the other, talking about him all the time. Whenever there was unwanted pressure or attention in places he didn't like, he was fantastic at redirecting the attention away. And now he's President.

As it relates to the topic, I'm not upset with what she said or a lot of what Hollywood says, but I am generally unconcerned with what they think as Hollywood seems to typically be so disconnected from the rest of America. Part of living that high-life, I suppose, after some time you just lose touch with the base.
 
I suppose that it's one of those things related to where I live, and the path my life has taken, but I've had the opportunity to meet many Hollywood celebrities.

There are some truly humble and genuine people among them, unfortunately, I would say they are in the minority. The majority, at least from my experience, are some of the most offensive and snobbish people around. It's apparent many of the later type showed up at the Golden Globes.

In a vocation that requires one to be fake and paranoid, it's not surprising the fake and paranoid would spew the drivel I've been reading about this morning. These people must be loved and accepted among their peers and the industry they are slaves to, or they starve. If a Meryl Streep says Trump sucks, then by all means, Trump sucks.

Does it matter what they say? Not to me. But it likely matters to people who are equally frightened of not being accepted, and have no identity without others saying they do, so they join the circus.
 
WCH said:
This is true however, Clint Eastwood has actually done things in his life besides pretending to be a fictional character.

FWIW being a fictional character doesn't count for much in real life. Kind of like a cigarette...people smoke them but, they do nothing for us.
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To be fair, Streep does quite a lot. Her philanthropy is well known.
 
haymarket said:
When Eastwood embarrassed himself at the GOP convention with that never ending rant to an empty chair - lots of people on the right seemed to love it. And others hated it. But I do not remember anyone including Obama who was the target his ire resorting to grade school stupidity saying he was not a great actor or director. For Trump to stoop to calling Streep overrated is just a sign of how badly out of his league he is.
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Trump should have just ignored it. He needs to stop this Tweeting thing. It's a bad reflection on him when he gets baited by entertainers who are supposed to be giving speeches on entertainment. He made a decision to leave the entertainment industry and enter the world stage of grown ups.
 
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