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Unlike Trumpy, McCain gets it

calamity said:
As shown in post 18, they are trying to get at our electrical grid. Reading the article, it looks to me like the plan is to load Trojan horse malware onto laptops in hopes that someone infects the operating system with them.

I suspect that they are probably using honey pots with flash drive sticks, hot chicks who download the programs onto an unsuspecting guy's laptop while he sleeps off a good lay.
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Yeah. There's a thread just about the electrical grid hack, and in that thread I said they had (IMO) committed and act of war because regardless of the outcome, sabotage is an act of war.
 
calamity said:
McCain: Russian cyberintrusions an 'act of war' - CNNPolitics.com

Why couldn't we have elected this guy back in 2000 instead of Boy George? Imagine how much better off this country would be today.

Clearly that was Exhibit A of the idiots hijacking the R party. I say.
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John McCain is a damn fool who couldn't control illegal immigration in his state.

Worst of all he has done nothing for the Veterans of the state of Arizona. Sad given McCain served our country. He should be ashamed of his incompetence.
 
Bucky said:
John McCain is a damn fool who couldn't control illegal immigration in his state.

Worst of all he has done nothing for the Veterans of the state of Arizona. Sad given McCain served our country. He should be ashamed of his incompetence.
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So, you're OK with Russians hacking into our networks and attempting to get malware inside our power grid. Got it.
 
calamity said:
So, you're OK with Russians hacking into our networks and attempting to get malware inside our power grid. Got it.
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So you're OK with going to war with Russia? Got it.
 
calamity said:
Sure. Why not? Gotta die sometime.
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We don't need the drumming of war hawks like yourself, McCain, and Lindsey Graham.

Trump is trying to avoid war and make us a prosperous nation. People in your camp want all civilians to invest in Harvest Right and eat space food.

We need brain power. Not the bantering of Kooks.
 
Bucky said:
We don't need the drumming of war hawks like yourself, McCain, and Lindsey Graham.

Trump is trying to avoid war and make us a prosperous nation. People in your camp want all civilians to invest in Harvest Right and eat space food.

We need brain power. Not the bantering of Kooks.
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Trump is bending over so Putin can **** him in the ass. And, the Tummies are standing at the ready with a jar of Vaseline.
 
calamity said:
Trump is bending over so Putin can **** him in the ass. And, the Tummies are standing at the ready with a jar of Vaseline.
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Trump doesn't give head, he receives it. Never in his life has he sucked.

Putin is the puppet. Trump can crush Russia in 5 minutes. Everyone knows that. But Russia can be a very profitable ally.
 
Bucky said:
Trump doesn't give head, he receives it. Never in his life has he sucked.

Putin is the puppet. Trump can crush Russia in 5 minutes. Everyone knows that. But Russia can be a very profitable ally.
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Not if they are hacking into our electrical grid. Allies don't do that sort of thing. :roll:
 
calamity said:
Not if they are hacking into our electrical grid. Allies don't do that sort of thing. :roll:
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If Russia did hack into our system, that is the fault of the CURRENT president Barack Hussein Obama. If you leave the test answers out in the open, of course some people are going to try and take a peak.

Trump already had a summit with many of the brightest tech people in our country. I can assure you, Trump will not make the same mistake that Obama did allowing Russia and North Korea to embarrass us.
 
Bucky said:
If Russia did hack into our system, that is the fault of the CURRENT president Barack Hussein Obama. If you leave the test answers out in the open, of course some people are going to try and take a peak.

Trump already had a summit with many of the brightest tech people in our country. I can assure you, Trump will not make the same mistake that Obama did allowing Russia and North Korea to embarrass us.
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Yeah, you carry that Trumpian water. Good luck with that.

Meanwhile the adults in the room shake their heads.
 
calamity said:
Yeah, you carry that Trumpian water. Good luck with that.

Meanwhile the adults in the room shake their heads.
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So the grown up thing to do is go to war with Russia? Do you also want to re-instute the draft and force my daughter to go into combat?

You chicken hawks are too much. War is not the answer, diplomacy is.
 
Bucky said:
So the grown up thing to do is go to war with Russia? Do you also want to re-instute the draft and force my daughter to go into combat?

You chicken hawks are too much. War is not the answer, diplomacy is.
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Now you sound like John Lennon: Give Peace a Chance.
 
This Russia thing is, imo, blown MASSIVELY out of proportion.

Big deal, they might have done some naughty thing.

I guarantee you if the CIA thought they could alter the Russian elections, they would do it in a heartbeat.

This stuff goes on ALL THE TIME. It's no big deal.

How the heck can McCain be so INCREDIBLY naive not to realize that?


Unless he can FACTUALLY prove that the Russians bribed/drugged/tricked tens of thousands of people to vote a different way - it means nothing.

Just SOP for superpowers.
 
It is funny reading 1 thread here where the same people who call Obama a wuss for not going to war with Russia's because of their past actions(which had nothing to do with us directly)..Are the same people who now are saying we shouldn't go to war with Russia over their tampering. Which is seen as a direct attack on us,

Why? Because now all of a sudden Putin is an 'ally' where a few months ago those same people thought he was an adversary. All because they are Trump supporters and they don't mind seeing their boy bend over for Putin. Politics do make strange bedfellows.
 
DA60 said:
This Russia thing is, imo, blown MASSIVELY out of proportion.

Big deal, they might have done some naughty thing.

I guarantee you if the CIA thought they could alter the Russian elections, they would do it in a heartbeat.

This stuff goes on ALL THE TIME. It's no big deal.

How the heck can McCain be so INCREDIBLY naive not to realize that?


Unless he can FACTUALLY prove that the Russians bribed/drugged/tricked tens of thousands of people to vote a different way - it means nothing.

Just SOP for superpowers.
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if they affected the elections by actually hacking machines, we should all be angry

but let's bring this back to reality. the anger is they supposedly exposed the inner secrets of the DNC. We are going to go to war with Russia because they exposed corruption and dirty play?

sorry, that would violate pretty much every tenet of the Just War Theory.
 
I wonder how much Trump's POW comments pissed McCain off and if those comments might be a reason McCain might make it a point to be a giant PITA for Trump?
 
ARealConservative said:
if they affected the elections by actually hacking machines, we should all be angry

but let's bring this back to reality. the anger is they supposedly exposed the inner secrets of the DNC. We are going to go to war with Russia because they exposed corruption and dirty play?

sorry, that would violate pretty much every tenet of the Just War Theory.
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Imo, if they didn't try and affect America's election...that would be VERY strange.

Of course they tried to alter America's election.

Just as of course America tried to affect Russia's elections.

No offense, but this is 2016...not 1980. People should not be so naive by now not to realize that this stuff is no big deal and goes on all the time - with both sides doing all they can to influence the other...both legally and illegally.

Saying the Russians tried to alter the elections is like telling me that I need oxygen. Of course they did/I do.


I think Trump is a buffoon...but I think he is handling this whole affair FAR better than Obama is.

It is NO BIG DEAL...if happens EVERY DAY.

And again...until I see factual proof that Russia directly altered how tens of thousands of Americans voted...I could care less about it.
 
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DA60 said:
Imo, if they didn't try and affect America's election...that would be VERY strange.

Of course they tried to alter America's election.

Just as of course America tried to affect Russia's elections.

No offense, but this is 2016...not 1980. People should not be so naive by now not to realize that this stuff is no big deal and goes on all the time - with both sides doing all they can to influence the other...both legally and illegally.

Saying the Russians tried to alter the elections is like telling me that I need oxygen. Of course they did/I do.


I think Trump is a buffoon...but I think he is handling this whole affair FAR better than Obama is.

It is NO BIG DEAL...if happens EVERY DAY.

And again...until I see factual proof that Russia directly altered how tens of thousands of Americans voted...I could care less about it.
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so you think they tried to hack machines? you think that happens all the time?
 
calamity said:
I was with Obama from day one. Looking back, I know I was snowed. But, he still looks like the best choice given the options: Clinton, Edwards, McCain etc.
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thats how presidential elections always are
 
ARealConservative said:
so you think they tried to hack machines? you think that happens all the time?
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I don't know what they did...I have seen no factual proof of anything yet. All I have heard is hearsay.

But I am quite sure that if they thought they could alter machines AND NOT GET CAUGHT doing it - they would probably do it.

Just as I think the CIA would do the exact same thing if they thought they could do it without getting caught.



My problem is with almost everyone (except Trump it seems) freaking out about something that is SOP for superpowers. And without ANY factual proof that I have seen.

Obama should get this irrefutable proof, present it to the world and then start tossing out diplomats (IF it is concrete evidence).

I highly doubt such proof exists.
 
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DA60 said:
Imo, if they didn't try and affect America's election...that would be VERY strange.

Of course they tried to alter America's election.

Just as of course America tried to affect Russia's elections.

No offense, but this is 2016...not 1980. People should not be so naive by now not to realize that this stuff is no big deal and goes on all the time - with both sides doing all they can to influence the other...both legally and illegally.

Saying the Russians tried to alter the elections is like telling me that I need oxygen. Of course they did/I do.


I think Trump is a buffoon...but I think he is handling this whole affair FAR better than Obama is.

It is NO BIG DEAL...if happens EVERY DAY.

And again...until I see factual proof that Russia directly altered how tens of thousands of Americans voted...I could care less about it.
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russians stealing intellectual property and hacking nuke power plants doesnt bother you? your post sounds like a kremlin troll
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
I wonder how much Trump's POW comments pissed McCain off and if those comments might be a reason McCain might make it a point to be a giant PITA for Trump?
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if thats the case wait till the generals get hold of the moron.
 
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