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Berlin terror attack: Lorry ploughs into crowd of shoppers killing nine

Yes and the dead man in the cab was the original, possibly Catholic, Polish driver that the Afghan 'refugee' murdered when he highjacked the truck.

You really do go all out when you attempt to deny Islamic terror, don't you Manc Skipper.

Leftists have to go way beyond their comfort levels to support people who hate women, homosexuals and atheists.
 
America is 70% Christian. Why don't you say "AAAAAAAAAANNNNND ITS CHRISTIANS" when one of the 14,000 homicides a year is committed or when one of the 1,400,000 violent crimes is committed within the U.S.?

Is that because it's muslims too?


We don't have the facts yet. You indict 1,500,000,000 people based on general religious affiliation.




[I might as well add, before I'm accused of playing politics: this is a disgusting crime, a tragedy, and I'm responding to a thread in subforum "general politics"]
We know you are holding up an unrealistic idealistic standard, well intention-ed but dangerous to the rest of us. The American people have left your side behind and one of the reasons for that is that you ignore the obvious.

The dangerous folk are obvious.

Am reminded of the picture of the beautiful buxom woman in a close up showing lots of cleavage...with an ape in the background. Shown to a bunch of guys and then later questioned about the ape, none saw it as they were focused on the voluptuous mammary glands. I have no idea what you folks are focusing on, but its not the 900 lb gorilla in the room.
 
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I GUARANTEE you...ANY TIME one of those people kills someone screaming I LOVE JESUS I will call them a Christian terrorist. But see...those 14,000 homicides are not being committed in the great and glorious name of Jesus, unlike the thousands committed every year (and the one you are currently trying to minimize) in the great and glorious name of Allah.

See the difference? Of course you do.

Is there some reason murdering someone in the name of Allah is worse than another murder? Is there some reason this justifies targeting anyone else who worships Allah?
 
America is 70% Christian. Why don't you say "AAAAAAAAAANNNNND ITS CHRISTIANS" when one of the 14,000 homicides a year is committed or when one of the 1,400,000 violent crimes is committed within the U.S.?


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He probably would have if those murders were committed specifically in the name of Jesus.
I think it's human nature to view people who commit sub-human acts in less than favorable light, espeically when there's a consistent and oft repeated pattern.
Well, not all humand. I guess i"m speaking for the deplorables not those who have a achieved a higher spiritual hilltop,like liberals.
 
Is there some reason murdering someone in the name of Allah is worse than another murder? Is there some reason this justifies targeting anyone else who worships Allah?
Ah....you wish to parse the argument to tr to avoid the link to fundamentalist terrorism. OK then....
Murder is murder. No doubt. But in addition to murder there is cause. Society should always be concerned about cause if there is a hope of confronting a 'problem'. For example...inner city murder rates are pretty horrific. There are many 'causes'. If the problem of murder is ever going to be addressed, the root causes must be addressed. Similarly...terrorist attacks are also a 'problem' and if you are ever going to address it you must be willing to acknowledge it and confront it.

Wouldnt you agree?
 
Ah....you wish to parse the argument to tr to avoid the link to fundamentalist terrorism. OK then....
Murder is murder. No doubt. But in addition to murder there is cause. Society should always be concerned about cause if there is a hope of confronting a 'problem'. For example...inner city murder rates are pretty horrific. There are many 'causes'. If the problem of murder is ever going to be addressed, the root causes must be addressed. Similarly...terrorist attacks are also a 'problem' and if you are ever going to address it you must be willing to acknowledge it and confront it.

Wouldnt you agree?

The part that confuses me is where we propose these sweeping changes in response to the tiny minority of killings, undermining the fundamental principles of free nations, while doing virtually nothing in response to the majority of killings.

Does that help you with your confusion?
 
The part that confuses me is where we propose these sweeping changes in response to the tiny minority of killings, undermining the fundamental principles of free nations, while doing virtually nothing in response to the majority of killings.

Does that help you with your confusion?
:lamo I have no confusion. I understand leftists perfectly well when it comes to fundamentalist extremist terrorism just as I understand them when it come to the 'majority of killings'. Leftists ignore the majority of killings in our country for example because if they chose to focus on the majority of killings they would have to deal with the unfortunate reality that not only are they perpetrated ON black Americans but they are also perpetrated BY black Americans. Dealing with that head on might risk cries and accusations of racism from a population of people leftists have learned long ago to exploit, so of course...they cant do that. As for the leftists response to Fundamentalist Islamic terrorism, I understand the left quite well there too. The left is driven by their innate need to oppose all things conservative. Therefore...conservatives speak out against fundamentalist Islamic terrorism and the lefts kneejerk conditioned response is to minimize.
 
The positively want to take over the western world and kill or imprison all the infidels.

You have a lot of gall taking up for them after this crap they pulled today in Germany and Turkey.

This happened in France as well.
 
Looks like they were terrorist. I think they better get used to it if they bring people from the peaceful Middle East to their country.
 
Looks like they were terrorist. I think they better get used to it if they bring people from the peaceful Middle East to their country.

Yep. When the Europeans have had enough of that crap, they'll do something about it. Until then we ought to expect more death and injury.
 
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