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Ikari said:
I know, look at all those CEOs and Bankers in charge of things now. Just like....always. lol
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THere is one big difference. They now have jobs that, well they have zero experience and back ground in.
 
jimbo said:
In other words, successful people. Not to be confused with college professors or community organizers who have never spent in the real world.
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Yep. I agree. We need more real world experience and less politician. The left doesn't get it though.
 
Ikari said:
You folk never get it. You deflection that Obama did something in order to excuse something very similar to him is just hypocritical.

Obama had the Bankers and CEOs and Politicians all over the place, and so does Trump. And equally Trump has nominated people not fully qualified, such as the EPA head who will end up just gutting the thing.

So more CEOs, more Bankers running the show, same ol' same ol'. I know y'all want to live under this delusion that you're bucking the system, but in the end it's far more likely that you got played by the system.

But I guess for now we can pretend that rewarding Bankers and CEOs with high profile political favors and positions is somehow "shaking it up", lol. Time will tell.
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Your obsession with 'CEOs' ignores the reality that this particular candidate is eminently qualified to do the job. But hey...what doe his ACTUAL qualifications matter to you? I suppose you would prefer he hire yet another career DC politician. Or hey...maybe a liberal college professor.

The 'swamp' is DC and it is populated by career bureaucrats just like Fanning. God forbid someone gets nominated that has military experience and has proven himself to be successful at running budgets and personnel.
 
Ikari said:
iLoL

Which of course means they're the best for the Political positions they've been nominated to.

Nothing new here, more Bankers and CEOs in bed with government. Same ol' cronyism we've seen for some time. Time will tell if this all turns out, but it's off to a questionable start.
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I disagree. It is cronyism to a degree that exceeds any previous administration, by a substantial amount. Even GWB, who often chose ideology over experience pales in comparison when it comes to the choices. There are some reasonable choices, but alas, they are few and far between.
 
VanceMack said:
Your obsession with 'CEOs' ignores the reality that this particular candidate is eminently qualified to do the job. But hey...what doe his ACTUAL qualifications matter to you? I suppose you would prefer he hire yet another career DC politician. Or hey...maybe a liberal college professor.

The 'swamp' is DC and it is populated by career bureaucrats just like Fanning. God forbid someone gets nominated that has military experience and has proven himself to be successful at running budgets and personnel.
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Perchance he is, there were likely more career military personnel that may have been better for the job, but nothing says "success" like CEO, amiright?

The Swamp are the Bankers and CEOs and pervasive cronyism that infects the government. This continued movement to Corporate Capitalism and the Corporate State. And for this, Trump hasn't shown any difference.

Time will tell, but this parade of folk seems awfully familiar with standard Republocrat tactics.
 
jimbo said:
In other words, successful people. Not to be confused with college professors or community organizers who have never spent in the real world.
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Remember that communist guy that Obama appointed as Special Advisor for Green Jobs? What was his name again? Oh right, Von Jones. You know, that same racist bastard that blamed Hillary losing on white people. :lol:
 
Ikari said:
Perchance he is, there were likely more career military personnel that may have been better for the job, but nothing says "success" like CEO, amiright?

The Swamp are the Bankers and CEOs and pervasive cronyism that infects the government. This continued movement to Corporate Capitalism and the Corporate State. And for this, Trump hasn't shown any difference.

Time will tell, but this parade of folk seems awfully familiar with standard Republocrat tactics.
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Again....I dont think you quite understand who they were talking a bout when they were saying 'drain the swamp'. They very specifically meant the career politicians and bureaucrats that have so thoroughly ****ed up the federal government. YOU obviously took what THEY mean as CEOs and bankers.

And its rather telling that in....lets see...what is it now...you have posted 10 of 30 posts in total here you not once have actually addressed the mans qualifications. Its almost as if you have no idea who he is or if he is qualified to do the job or not.
 
Deuce said:
When Trump and his fans chanted about draining the swamp, what do you think they were criticizing specifically?
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Politicians (in both parties) and bureaucrats in DC. Who did YOU think they were talking about?
 
VanceMack said:
Again....I dont think you quite understand who they were talking a bout when they were saying 'drain the swamp'.
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I don't think YOU quite understand who I am talking about when I say this is standard Republocrat tactic. I never mentioned "draining swamps", so don't hold other people's comments to me. I'm talking about how people are clamoring about some form of shake up, but the cabinet just being the standard set of bankers and CEOs and other people who have been "buddies" with a President-Elect.

It's rather telling that in the posts I have made, I have made mention to the qualifications, though none to quantify if he is best for the position as that is data none of us have. But he is Wall Street, and Wall Street has had its hands in the cookie jar for some time. So it's not really surprising that Wall Street be present on the cabinet.

Again, not really "shaking it up". We'll see how it all turns out in the end, but there's nothing really drastically different from standard Republocrat behavior here.
 
Deuce said:
When Trump and his fans chanted about draining the swamp, what do you think they were criticizing specifically?
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1. The Democrats.
2. Establishment politicians.

Romney was clearly establishment, Tillerson isn't.




Ikari said:
CEOs and Bankers have long had their hand in the cookie jar, this is no different than that.
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iLOL
Is that what you think? Interesting.

Yet this is so much different than that.
 
Excon said:
iLOL
Is that what you think? Interesting.

Yet this is so much different than that.
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iLoL

But since it's the same parade of folk, it's not much different at all.

Shaking it up with Wall Street and Big Corporation, yeah?

iLoL
 
Ikari said:
iLoL

But since it's the same parade of folk, it's not much different at all.

Shaking it up with Wall Street and Big Corporation, yeah?

iLoL
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It is not the same parade of folks.

As for shaking up Wall Street and Big Corporations?
Wut? Do you have any ideal what you are talking about.
You do realize these folks are there to carry out Trump's agenda, not their own (not that you have any idea what their agendas are if they even have one).
 
Excon said:
It is not the same parade of folks.
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iLoL

Just more Goldman Sachs and Wall Street Folk in positions of power, CEOs friendly to the politician getting nice powerful jobs. But yes, pretend it's oh so different.

iLoL
 
Ikari said:
I don't think YOU quite understand who I am talking about when I say this is standard Republocrat tactic. I never mentioned "draining swamps", so don't hold other people's comments to me. I'm talking about how people are clamoring about some form of shake up, but the cabinet just being the standard set of bankers and CEOs and other people who have been "buddies" with a President-Elect.

It's rather telling that in the posts I have made, I have made mention to the qualifications, though none to quantify if he is best for the position as that is data none of us have. But he is Wall Street, and Wall Street has had its hands in the cookie jar for some time. So it's not really surprising that Wall Street be present on the cabinet.

Again, not really "shaking it up". We'll see how it all turns out in the end, but there's nothing really drastically different from standard Republocrat behavior here.
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Whoa! I might need to reload my software or something. You say you have been commenting on HIS ACTUAL QUALIFICATIONS and yet for some reason the only thing that has shown up in ANY of your comments regarding this particular individual is CEO/Banker. Some filter must be stripping out your comments regarding Vinny Viola. I mean...other than he is a ''CEO'. Thats weird...right?
 
Ikari said:
Just more Goldman Sachs and Wall Street Folk in positions of power, CEOs friendly to the politician getting nice powerful jobs. But yes, pretend it's oh so different.
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Sad.
The only one pretending is you.
 
Ikari said:
iLoL

Just more Goldman Sachs and Wall Street Folk in positions of power, CEOs friendly to the politician getting nice powerful jobs. But yes, pretend it's oh so different.

iLoL
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I don't think some people will get the point you are making, even after tons of evidence happens that shows you are correct.
 
VanceMack said:
Whoa! I might need to reload my software or something. You say you have been commenting on HIS ACTUAL QUALIFICATIONS and yet for some reason the only thing that has shown up in ANY of your comments regarding this particular individual is CEO/Banker. Some filter must be stripping out your comments regarding Vinny Viola. I mean...other than he is a ''CEO'. Thats weird...right?
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I said that I did comment upon them, one asked if he wasn't qualified. I said he isn't unqualified, but I cannot speak to the level of qualification he has. Try reading comments instead of imagining what they are all about.

Did you drop the "draining the swamp" thing now too, because you inaccurately ascribed that to me? That's good, learning from mistakes is a great way to progress.

And he is a CEO/Banker. Disputing that?
 
Ikari said:
I said that I did comment upon them, one asked if he wasn't qualified. I said he isn't unqualified, but I cannot speak to the level of qualification he has. Try reading comments instead of imagining what they are all about.

Did you drop the "draining the swamp" thing now too, because you inaccurately ascribed that to me? That's good, learning from mistakes is a great way to progress.

And he is a CEO/Banker. Disputing that?
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The ONLY comment you made re qualifications that came through my apparently malfunctioning software filter is "Being an airborne ranger officer doesn't necessarily mean you are qualified for thew job, but it also doesn't mean you're not." I must have missed the parts where you actually discussed his qualifications. Can you point to the post where you mentioned something beyond "CEO"? I will have the opportunity to log into another computer later and will look it up then.
 
Ikari said:
I know, look at all those CEOs and Bankers in charge of things now. Just like....always. lol
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WOW, people that know how to run things are going to be running things.

What a novel concept.
 
Mason66 said:
WOW, people that know how to run things are going to be running things.

What a novel concept.
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Just being a CEO in and of itself doesn't mean you can run things well. Or that you'll run a government position well. Furthermore, there could be some dubious conflicts of interest, such as the CEO Trump put up for Secretary of State.

Government doesn't behave like business, nor should it. We need both entities, and they are different by necessity. Being a CEO doesn't mean you cannot do the job well, but neither is it a metric of success in and of itself.
 
VanceMack said:
The ONLY comment you made re qualifications that came through my apparently malfunctioning software filter is "Being an airborne ranger officer doesn't necessarily mean you are qualified for thew job, but it also doesn't mean you're not." I must have missed the parts where you actually discussed his qualifications. Can you point to the post where you mentioned something beyond "CEO"? I will have the opportunity to log into another computer later and will look it up then.
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You just quoted a comment I made regarding qualifications.

perhaps you are confused about the term "comment"?
 
VanceMack said:
Politicians (in both parties) and bureaucrats in DC. Who did YOU think they were talking about?
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But what about them? What specific behavior?
 
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