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Should Obama Pardon Trump?

JackA

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Trump lost the popular vote by a significant margin. On top of that it's now looking like his Electoral College victory was ill begotten through a combination of FBI meddling and Russian hacking, both
aimed at hurting Clinton and helping him. These threats to the perceived legitimacy of his Presidency can't endear Hillary to him. Re-enter the Trump threat to "lock her up" which he now says he won't do. He can't lock her up but he can have his attorney general appoint a special prosecutor and he's erratic and peevish enough to change his mind and do it. Hillary's supporters, and I imagine Hillary herself, are insulted at the idea of Obama pardoning her since they believe she committed no crime. But suppose Obama took the sting out of it by pardoning her and also pardoning Trump. At the same time. Hillary for the emails, Trump for his life's work, so to speak, specifically, securities fraud, business fraud, Trump University fraud, sex crimes against women in cases not yet closed out by state statutes of limitations, and anything else the lawyers think of.
 
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Trump hasn't been convicted of anything, so there's no pardon possible. What are you talking about?
 
JackA said:
Trump lost the popular vote by a significant margin. On top of that it's now looking like his Electoral College victory was ill begotten through a combination of FBI meddling and Russian hacking, both
aimed at hurting Clinton and helping him. These threats to the perceived legitimacy of his Presidency can't endear Hillary to him. Re-enter the Trump threat to "lock her up" which he now says he won't do. He can't lock her up but he can have his attorney general appoint a special prosecutor and he's erratic and peevish enough to change his mind and do it. Hillary's supporters, and I imagine Hillary herself, are insulted at the idea of Obama pardoning her since they believe she committed no crime. But suppose Obama took the sting out of it by pardoning her and also pardoning Trump. At the same time. Hillary for the emails, Trump for his life's work, so to speak, specifically, securities fraud, business fraud, Trump University fraud, sex crimes against women in cases not yet closed out by state statutes of limitations, and anything else the lawyers think of.
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Maybe by his VP after impeachment?
 
JackA said:
Trump lost the popular vote by a significant margin. On top of that it's now looking like his Electoral College victory was ill begotten through a combination of FBI meddling and Russian hacking, both
aimed at hurting Clinton and helping him. These threats to the perceived legitimacy of his Presidency can't endear Hillary to him. Re-enter the Trump threat to "lock her up" which he now says he won't do. He can't lock her up but he can have his attorney general appoint a special prosecutor and he's erratic and peevish enough to change his mind and do it. Hillary's supporters, and I imagine Hillary herself, are insulted at the idea of Obama pardoning her since they believe she committed no crime. But suppose Obama took the sting out of it by pardoning her and also pardoning Trump. At the same time. Hillary for the emails, Trump for his life's work, so to speak, specifically, securities fraud, business fraud, Trump University fraud, sex crimes against women in cases not yet closed out by state statutes of limitations, and anything else the lawyers think of.
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Are you high? Pardon Trump for what?

He hasn't been charged with a crime.
 
JackA said:
Trump lost the popular vote by a significant margin. On top of that it's now looking like his Electoral College victory was ill begotten through a combination of FBI meddling and Russian hacking, both
aimed at hurting Clinton and helping him. These threats to the perceived legitimacy of his Presidency can't endear Hillary to him. Re-enter the Trump threat to "lock her up" which he now says he won't do. He can't lock her up but he can have his attorney general appoint a special prosecutor and he's erratic and peevish enough to change his mind and do it. Hillary's supporters, and I imagine Hillary herself, are insulted at the idea of Obama pardoning her since they believe she committed no crime. But suppose Obama took the sting out of it by pardoning her and also pardoning Trump. At the same time. Hillary for the emails, Trump for his life's work, so to speak, specifically, securities fraud, business fraud, Trump University fraud, sex crimes against women in cases not yet closed out by state statutes of limitations, and anything else the lawyers think of.
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The idea that the election was hacked by the Russians is absurd.


Everyone knows that it was really the mole people who rigged things.
 
Lutherf said:
The idea that the election was hacked by the Russians is absurd.


Everyone knows that it was really the mole people who rigged things.
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That's totally unfounded conspiracy nonsense, Luther. Everyone with a brain knows that the Spanish Inquisition were really the ones doing the rigging here.
 
TheGoverness said:
Are you high? Pardon Trump for what?

He hasn't been charged with a crime.
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While I agree the OP is silly, one doesn't have to be convicted or even charged to be pardoned. You don't even need a specific crime. A person can be pardoned for any crimes that MAY have been commited in a given time frame.
 
BrewerBob said:
While I agree the OP is silly, one doesn't have to be convicted or even charged to be pardoned. You don't even need a specific crime. A person can be pardoned for any crimes that MAY have been commited in a given time frame.
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Argh. I hate being wrong.
 
JackA said:
Trump lost the popular vote by a significant margin. On top of that it's now looking like his Electoral College victory was ill begotten through a combination of FBI meddling and Russian hacking, both
aimed at hurting Clinton and helping him. These threats to the perceived legitimacy of his Presidency can't endear Hillary to him. Re-enter the Trump threat to "lock her up" which he now says he won't do. He can't lock her up but he can have his attorney general appoint a special prosecutor and he's erratic and peevish enough to change his mind and do it. Hillary's supporters, and I imagine Hillary herself, are insulted at the idea of Obama pardoning her since they believe she committed no crime. But suppose Obama took the sting out of it by pardoning her and also pardoning Trump. At the same time. Hillary for the emails, Trump for his life's work, so to speak, specifically, securities fraud, business fraud, Trump University fraud, sex crimes against women in cases not yet closed out by state statutes of limitations, and anything else the lawyers think of.
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Slow day at work for you today?
 
JackA said:
Trump lost the popular vote by a significant margin. On top of that it's now looking like his Electoral College victory was ill begotten through a combination of FBI meddling and Russian hacking, both
aimed at hurting Clinton and helping him. These threats to the perceived legitimacy of his Presidency can't endear Hillary to him. Re-enter the Trump threat to "lock her up" which he now says he won't do. He can't lock her up but he can have his attorney general appoint a special prosecutor and he's erratic and peevish enough to change his mind and do it. Hillary's supporters, and I imagine Hillary herself, are insulted at the idea of Obama pardoning her since they believe she committed no crime. But suppose Obama took the sting out of it by pardoning her and also pardoning Trump. At the same time. Hillary for the emails, Trump for his life's work, so to speak, specifically, securities fraud, business fraud, Trump University fraud, sex crimes against women in cases not yet closed out by state statutes of limitations, and anything else the lawyers think of.
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Pardon him for what? He hasn't been convicted of anything.
 
brewerbob said:
while i agree the op is silly, one doesn't have to be convicted or even charged to be pardoned. You don't even need a specific crime. A person can be pardoned for any crimes that may have been commited in a given time frame.
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this is true, however one has to accept the pardon, and to accept seems to indicate guilt.
 
JackA said:
Trump lost the popular vote by a significant margin. On top of that it's now looking like his Electoral College victory was ill begotten through a combination of FBI meddling and Russian hacking, both
aimed at hurting Clinton and helping him. These threats to the perceived legitimacy of his Presidency can't endear Hillary to him. Re-enter the Trump threat to "lock her up" which he now says he won't do. He can't lock her up but he can have his attorney general appoint a special prosecutor and he's erratic and peevish enough to change his mind and do it. Hillary's supporters, and I imagine Hillary herself, are insulted at the idea of Obama pardoning her since they believe she committed no crime. But suppose Obama took the sting out of it by pardoning her and also pardoning Trump. At the same time. Hillary for the emails, Trump for his life's work, so to speak, specifically, securities fraud, business fraud, Trump University fraud, sex crimes against women in cases not yet closed out by state statutes of limitations, and anything else the lawyers think of.
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Just. No.
 
tres borrachos said:
I don't recall mentioning Hillary or Nixon. Can you please post a link to where i mentioned them? Certainly not in the post you quoted.
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I said you suggested them, not named them. Do I have to spell it out?
 
JackA said:
I said you suggested them, not named them. Do I have to spell it out?
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I made one post in this thread. This was it.

tres borrachos said:
Pardon him for what? He hasn't been convicted of anything.
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I not only didn't say Clinton or Nixon, I didn't even "suggest" them. You may need some glasses or something. My post was about Trump and with no hint of reference to anyone else. Pay attention.
 
tres borrachos said:
I made one post in this thread. This was it.



I not only didn't say Clinton or Nixon, I didn't even "suggest" them. You may need some glasses or something. My post was about Trump and with no hint of reference to anyone else. Pay attention.
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Okay. Hillary Clinton and Nixon are foremost examples of the fact that conviction is not prerequisite to a Presidential pardon. A pardon for Hillary has been widely discussed; Nixon got one. These two examples might have spared you asking the question you asked. Instead, your question suggested their examples.
 
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