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Trump: The unifier

Bucky said:
Like many on this forum, I could not imagine Donald Trump being President. I was behind Ted Cruz. To me, Donald Trump running for president was nothing more than a PR stunt.

Trump has converted me. He has opened my eyes and I have seen the light. His cabinets selections have been extremely impressive. He's unifying the party, the country, the world. The policies he's laying out are surprisingly detailed and articulate.

He has made a believer out of me, has he made a believer out of you?
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He has not, though I'm open to it happening. Until the man takes office, not much of what he does will impress me. It's more about what he DOES not what he SAYS he will do. In my adult lifetime I've heard lots of politicians say lots of things, 99.9% of which was either outright BS or rhetoric meant to garner more votes. I agree though that because Trump is an outsider to the DC beltway, the chances of him actually doing something is higher than the .1% of other Presidents. If he tries to do 20% of what he stated, and gets through 5% of that 20%, it would be 4.9% more than the last three Presidents combined.
 
Trump and his cabinet picks (mostly far right wingers) represent an existentially devastating threat to science in this country. They will take us back decades if allowed to damage our scientific institutions to the degree they seem hell bent on doing.
 
JackA said:
Not "debunked". The list deals with only half of the women who came public and presents denials rather than refutations of their claims, nor does it address Trump's own admissions, including his
televised confession several years ago that he could never run for President because his conduct with women is worse than Bill Clinton's and you know how bad that conduct was.
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And no link.

Meh. Whatever. Since all of those groping accusations have melted back into the woodwork, I rather doubt that any of them were serious, and given the links to the Hillary campaign, even more so reason to dismiss them and highly suspect.
 
katzgar said:
not never, not ever. a birther and woman groper is the least thing that should be president.
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Donald Trump is a man, that is how the majority of men behave.

Regardless of that.... Trump is a fighter for all rights, particularly American rights. He'll keep jobs in this country.
 
Mustachio said:
I don't think I understand what you're saying. Probably half of Trump voters did so because they want to get rid of illegal immigrants and put Hillary Clinton in prison. If we already know that the two biggest selling points of his candidacy were a lie, then he's nothing like he told us he would be as a president. On the other hand, it was clear to those of us who read and do our homework that Trump wanted to be President because he wants an unending stream of power, fame and adoration. That fits perfectly with his actions since becoming President - failing to accept intelligence briefings, delegating policy proposals and cabinet appointments to his aides, and shouting from his grotesque tower at Alec Baldwin for daring to impersonate him.
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like i said, he told us exactly who he is during the general election. it was obvious to anyone who was paying attention.
 
Bucky said:
Donald Trump is a man, that is how the majority of men behave.

Regardless of that.... Trump is a fighter for all rights, particularly American rights. He'll keep jobs in this country.
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I pity the world you live in
 
Helix said:
like i said, he told us exactly who he is during the general election. it was obvious to anyone who was paying attention.
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We agree on your words? Or we agree. Either way, "shouting from his grotesque tower at Alex Baldwin for daring to impersonate him" actual sounds pretty Presidential upon a second glance.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
I do not have Bucky's amazing insight and foresight to believe in Trump . Better Trump than Cruz! As for seeing the light, I can remember as a teenager in 1972 consuming a single small dose of Orange Barrel Acid (LSD) at night and vividly seeing the rapidly moving blue lite current of electricity swirling around power lines.
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Double dip?
 
Chomsky said:
If he remembers "orange barrel", he really was there.

The dude's legit! :thumbs:
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I won't go any further than to say the guy that made that stuff was intensely crazy. He hated the saying, "Peter, Peter, acid eater."
 
Mustachio said:
We agree on your words? Or we agree. Either way, "shouting from his grotesque tower at Alex Baldwin for daring to impersonate him" actual sounds pretty Presidential upon a second glance.
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i'm not sure how i'm being unclear, but i will try to further clarify.

during both the primary and the general election, Trump demonstrated at every step that he is a lying, narcissistic megalomaniac. it's simply stunning that anyone would be surprised when he reverses course on core issues and then possibly even reverses back. he has been doing that for years. for him, issues are simply rungs on the ladder so that he can climb higher and consolidate more money and power. the issues lower down the ladder don't matter anymore. it's always the next one, and the only direction is up. i can't be the only one who notices this. it's glaringly obvious.
 
Helix said:
i'm not sure how i'm being unclear, but i will try to further clarify.

during both the primary and the general election, Trump demonstrated at every step that he is a lying, narcissistic megalomaniac. it's simply stunning that anyone would be surprised when he reverses course on core issues and then possibly even reverses back. he has been doing that for years. for him, issues are simply rungs on the ladder so that he can climb higher and consolidate more money and power. the issues lower down the ladder don't matter anymore. it's always the next one, and the only direction is up. i can't be the only one who notices this. it's glaringly obvious.
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Oh, you are certainly not the only one who notices that....
 
katzgar said:
I pity the world you live in
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I love this country, I love freedom. I love the fact a man of meager beginnings can one day hold the highest office in the United States. It's called the American dream.
 
NonoBadDog said:
I won't go any further than to say the guy that made that stuff was intensely crazy. He hated the saying, "Peter, Peter, acid eater."
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Well, besides the original Sandoz pharmaceutical stuff, most old-timers always seemed to see Owlsey as the standard. But Orange Sunshine was definitely powerful, the real deal, and ubiquitous; rumor had it, it was what John Lennon used to trip - post Beatles.

But of all that I remember of the late '60's original stuff, it was Windowpane in the early '70's that seemed to really send people off the cliff! It was popular just after Orange Sunshine was winding down around maybe '72 or '73, and even experienced Orange Sunshine users were getting ripped beyond all control on it. It must've been due to Windowpane being 4-way hits - but no one was paying much attention to that, thinking: "That tiny little thing can't hurt me"!

Hard to believe this stuff and much more was all pretty much legal around - or just before - that time, until Nixon started-up the DEA in response.

Between the until-then legal psychedelics, downers, and speed, along with a myriad of illegal cannabis products, most American High Schools & Universities were pretty interesting places, ca. 1970! A lot of kids wore t-shirts emblazoned with "Better Living Through Chemistry", and they practiced what the preached.

*High* School, indeed.

It's a miracle to me that anyone made it out alive, much less sane! :mrgreen:
 
Helix said:
i'm not sure how i'm being unclear, but i will try to further clarify.

during both the primary and the general election, Trump demonstrated at every step that he is a lying, narcissistic megalomaniac. it's simply stunning that anyone would be surprised when he reverses course on core issues and then possibly even reverses back. he has been doing that for years. for him, issues are simply rungs on the ladder so that he can climb higher and consolidate more money and power. the issues lower down the ladder don't matter anymore. it's always the next one, and the only direction is up. i can't be the only one who notices this. it's glaringly obvious.
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No, we're 100% on the same page. I suspected such, it's just that sometimes people say "it's obvious" when they mean "I have no idea what I'm talking about because my news comes from Twitter." I don't post enough to be familiar with you personally but I like your style.
 
Bucky said:
Donald Trump is a man, that is how the majority of men behave.

Regardless of that.... Trump is a fighter for all rights, particularly American rights. He'll keep jobs in this country.
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He actually won't keep jobs in this country. He'll keep factories in this country. Automation will replace employees. Trump takes a "victory lap" for "saving" a thousand jobs. Well, those thousand employees will be on unemployment when they are replaced by robots. Then conservatives will call them lazy and tell them to get a job or go to college, but it's selfish for them to be leaching off of hard working taxpayers.

Oh, so what jobs will he keep in this country and which jobs will be free from the threat of automation?
 
Chomsky said:
Well, besides the original Sandoz pharmaceutical stuff, most old-timers always seemed to see Owlsey as the standard. But Orange Sunshine was definitely powerful, the real deal, and ubiquitous; rumor had it, it was what John Lennon used to trip - post Beatles.

But of all that I remember of the late '60's original stuff, it was Windowpane in the early '70's that seemed to really send people off the cliff! It was popular just after Orange Sunshine was winding down around maybe '72 or '73, and even experienced Orange Sunshine users were getting ripped beyond all control on it. It must've been due to Windowpane being 4-way hits - but no one was paying much attention to that, thinking: "That tiny little thing can't hurt me"!

Hard to believe this stuff and much more was all pretty much legal around - or just before - that time, until Nixon started-up the DEA in response.

Between the until-then legal psychedelics, downers, and speed, along with a myriad of illegal cannabis products, most American High Schools & Universities were pretty interesting places, ca. 1970! A lot of kids wore t-shirts emblazoned with "Better Living Through Chemistry", and they practiced what the preached.

*High* School, indeed.

It's a miracle to me that anyone made it out alive, much less sane! :mrgreen:
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My favorite was Yellow Moon Double Dip. You had to be someone special to get the double dip. I didn't like Purple Pyramid. Mushrooms gave me a kidney ache. I had a guy that gave me some strychnine laced stuff once. I don't think he did that to anyone ever again.
 
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