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Trump Goes Leftist to Save Carrier Jobs

calamity said:
I'm a fan of this government investing strategy, even if the choices sometimes fail. It's a beautiful thing. Take a look at Germany, Japan and China. None of those countries would be world leaders without government investment in infrastructure, R&D, and a slew of other things that make building a billion-dollar assembly plant worthwhile. You want to make iPhones in the US, you better make it easy on Apple.
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Would you care to address what the "government investment" in this case involves? The problem is that once you start down this path (company X decides to announce that it will offshore something and gets special government treatment) then issues of equal treatment are bound to arise. This is setting a very dangerous precedent, IMHO.
 
calamity said:
No. It's actually good. I'm just amazed that the Righties are going along with it.
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:lamo

Horse****. 'Righties' have been talking FOREVER about states like California taxing businesses into leaving the state for more favorable climes. This is not different. Be honest. If Carrier had said 'no' and still moved the jobs you would have started a thread bashing Trump for failing to keep the jobs here.
 
VanceMack said:
:lamo

Horse****. 'Righties' have been talking FOREVER about states like California taxing businesses into leaving the state for more favorable climes. This is not different. Be honest. If Carrier had said 'no' and still moved the jobs you would have started a thread bashing Trump for failing to keep the jobs here.
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I'm not bashing Trump for this effort. I am laughing at all the Righties who do not quite realize what this effort really means.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Would you care to address what the "government investment" in this case involves? The problem is that once you start down this path (company X decides to announce that it will offshore something and gets special government treatment) then issues of equal treatment are bound to arise. This is setting a very dangerous precedent, IMHO.
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If I had to guess, Trump made UTC an offer they could not refuse. Specifically: keep those jobs here, and we'll cut you some breaks and keep you at the top of the list when our next giant defense contract goes out for bid.
 
calamity said:
I'm not bashing Trump for this effort. I am laughing at all the Righties who do not quite realize what this effort really means.
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What his effort means is that in order to keep relatively high paying jobs in America industry, labor, and government will have to work together. Gosh...thats something some of us have been saying for decades now.

Of COURSE you are bashing Trump for his effort. You are very clearing demonstrating who and what you are in this and other threads.
 
calamity said:
If I had to guess, Trump made UTC an offer they could not refuse. Specifically: keep those jobs here, and we'll cut you some breaks and keep you at the top of the list when our next giant defense contract goes out for bid.
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Hmm... that (bolded above) sounds like rob Peter to pay Paul to me. Is that your idea of wise public policy? ;)
 
calamity said:
My guess is that if Obama had tried to muscle companies like GM, Ford or even Carrier to stay in the US, the Right would lose its ****, and today's headline in Drudge would not be so flowery. Instead of seeing "Trump makes America Great Again" on his masthead, we'd see this: "Obama goes Castro, Threatens Carrier"
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Do you have a short memory or what?
 
calamity said:
So far my wishes are being granted. We now have a GOP president who thinks religion is phooey; he believes government should intervene when companies want to ship jobs overseas, even if that move is profitable for them; he is proposing massive infrastructure revitalization and investment, even if we have to increase debt by maybe selling Trump Bonds to get there; he's tweeting about stripping people of their citizenship for burning flags, and, for all I know, he's probably planning on finally enforcing immigration law--especially on companies who hire illegals--even if he has to violate a few constitutional safeguards to get there.

Hell, he's batting a 1000 on those fronts. Too bad none of those things adhere to conservative principles. But, so what? Not my problem. I'm not a huge fan of those principles anyway.

Make America Great Again!
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You are so used to a President that does nothing to help Americans, this will be a mighty big change for you.
 
Mason66 said:
Do you have a short memory or what?
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I certainly do not see GM being pushed to keep auto plants in the US. They are building them like crazy in Mexico, China and Europe though.
 
Mason66 said:
You are so used to a President that does nothing to help Americans, this will be a mighty big change for you.
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This I agree with.
 
calamity said:
I certainly do not see GM being pushed to keep auto plants in the US. They are building them like crazy in Mexico, China and Europe though.
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Have you forgotten Obama bought part of GM to keep it in business?

Was that OK with you?
 
Mason66 said:
Have you forgotten Obama bought part of GM to keep it in business?

Was that OK with you?
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If he had forced them to build plants in the US instead of Mexico, China and Eastern Europe it would have been.
 
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