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America great again: Carrier stays

MickeyW

MickeyW

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From the earliest days of his campaign, Donald J. Trump made keeping manufacturing jobs in the United States his signature economic issue, and the decision by Carrier, the big air-conditioner company, to move 2,000 of them from Indiana to Mexico was a tailor-made talking point for him on the stump.

On Thursday, Mr. Trump and Mike Pence, Indiana’s governor and the vice-president elect, plan to appear at Carrier’s Indianapolis plant to announce they’ve struck a deal with the company to keep roughly half of the jobs in the state, according to officials with the transition team as well as Carrier.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/b...-carrier-plant-will-keep-jobs-in-us.html?_r=0
 
MickeyW said:
From the earliest days of his campaign, Donald J. Trump made keeping manufacturing jobs in the United States his signature economic issue, and the decision by Carrier, the big air-conditioner company, to move 2,000 of them from Indiana to Mexico was a tailor-made talking point for him on the stump.

On Thursday, Mr. Trump and Mike Pence, Indiana’s governor and the vice-president elect, plan to appear at Carrier’s Indianapolis plant to announce they’ve struck a deal with the company to keep roughly half of the jobs in the state, according to officials with the transition team as well as Carrier.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/b...-carrier-plant-will-keep-jobs-in-us.html?_r=0
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Hunh. IMO no corporation should be considered "American" (with all the protections that entails) unless at least 90% of their employees are American citizens.
 
America was already great.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Hunh. IMO no corporation should be considered "American" (with all the protections that entails) unless at least 90% of their employees are American citizens.
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Orly? said:
"Under a deal negotiated by Vice President-elect Mike Pence and UTX CEO Greg Hayes, the company will now keep most of those jobs in Indiana, sources close to the matter told CNBC.

While terms of the deal are not yet clear, the sources indicated there were new incentives on offer from the state of Indiana, where Pence is governor, that helped clear a path for the agreement."

"While UTX was seeking the savings that would come from moving some production to Mexico, people familiar with the situation indicated that the savings were not worth incurring the wrath of the incoming administration, including the potential threat to the significant business that UTX currently conducts with the U.S. government, largely in the form of orders for jet engines and other defense-related equipment."

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/29/trum...000-carrier-corp-jobs-in-indiana-sources.html
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What if they are actually American defense contractors sidelining as AC guys?
 
MickeyW said:
From the earliest days of his campaign, Donald J. Trump made keeping manufacturing jobs in the United States his signature economic issue, and the decision by Carrier, the big air-conditioner company, to move 2,000 of them from Indiana to Mexico was a tailor-made talking point for him on the stump.

On Thursday, Mr. Trump and Mike Pence, Indiana’s governor and the vice-president elect, plan to appear at Carrier’s Indianapolis plant to announce they’ve struck a deal with the company to keep roughly half of the jobs in the state, according to officials with the transition team as well as Carrier.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/29/b...-carrier-plant-will-keep-jobs-in-us.html?_r=0
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Not even sworn in yet and making America great again without being in office. What a guy. Glad I supported him and voted for him. Just tired of the lies and deceit of those who currently operate our government.
 
azgreg said:
It's quite a bit better than when he took over.
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I suppose that's true if gay marriage, trans friendly bathrooms, and openly gay people in the military are important to you. If you like really slow economic recoveries it has been tremendous. If you are one who is poor but not too poor such that you qualify for subsidies under Obamacare, and are therefore protected from higher premiums, then it has been great for you. Otherwise not so much.
 
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MickeyW said:
obama is the worst President in my lifetime, and I've lived thru a lot of them.
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BO, LBJ, and JEC, not necessarily in that order but all three were pretty bad. In terms of radical leftist, BO is by far the worse. He essentially was the leading reason for the nation's decline. IMO.
 
So keeping a 1,000 jobs in America is all it took to make it great again?

Cool.
 
Thorgasm said:
So keeping a 1,000 jobs in America is all it took to make it great again?

Cool.
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You have to start somewhere. 1000 jobs is more than BO ever dreamed of saving. Watch and learn.
 
Thorgasm said:
You spelled "burn" wrong.
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And just think. DJT isn't even president yet and already he has saved 1000 jobs from leaving. Isn't that great? :)
 
LowDown said:
I suppose that's true if gay marriage, trans friendly bathrooms, and openly gay people in the military are important to you. If you like really slow economic recoveries it has been tremendous. If you are one who is poor but not too poor such that you qualify for subsidies under Obamacare, and are therefore protected from higher premiums, then it has been great for you. Otherwise not so much.
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Those things are nice since I believe in the constitution. There are others though like the shrinking deficit. lowest rate of government spending increase since Eisenhower, record stock market growth, cut unemployment in half, longest period of private sector growth in American history, 79 straight months of economic expansion, some of the lowest income taxes for 95% of the population for the last 50 years, less dependence on foreign oil, millions more American have health insurance. So yeah, it better than when he took office.
 
azgreg said:
Those things are nice since I believe in the constitution. There are others though like the shrinking deficit. lowest rate of government spending increase since Eisenhower, record stock market growth, cut unemployment in half, longest period of private sector growth in American history, 79 straight months of economic expansion, some of the lowest income taxes for 95% of the population for the last 50 years, less dependence on foreign oil, millions more American have health insurance. So yeah, it better than when he took office.
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Those are all rosy scenarios if they really meant anything.

O bomb a had no positive influence on our growing independence from foreign oil, yes millions more have health insurance at the expense of others, leaving many if not most of us to HCINO, health care in name only with drastically rising premiums/co pays/ deductibles, we were lied to about keeping our plans and doctors. Shrinking deficits after all time highs, yeah, looks good only from that perspective. Stock market looks good for BIG BUSINESS cronies of O and Hill/Billy thanks to ol O bomb a.

As regards the Constitution, you seem to believe in it if the Supreme Court rules in your side's immoralities. The divisiveness created under this president, the growth of the national debt, the despair in minority communities, the violence and disruption of law and order, the reverse racism, the sexism, the overwhelming lies and deceit, the use of the IRS against targeted folks of opposite ideology, the hollowing out of our military pushing the good and strong to remove themselves from such a mess and promoting social engineering that does little to improve what the military is there for, to deter and, if not, to fight and win... but our rules of engagement put our young men and women in unnecessary danger.

I mean, I could go on and on and on off the top of my head how bad this president was/is and has been for our country, our true ideals and heritage.
 
azgreg said:
America was already great.
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Thats a statement often used in convenience. for example...when a group of rabid leftists get together to talk about the country there is an endless volume of subjects on which they rail against. But when a conservative or republican says, for example...we have to replace the democrat and make America great again, suddnely those same leftists will shriek" America was already great!"

Its all about what suits you.

I agree. At our worst we are still the greatest country on the planet. I believe the reason that is the case is not due necessarily to our people but to our foundation and our potential. But there can be no denying that while this is a great place, in the words of President Camacho...

 
Thorgasm said:
You misspelled "blackest".
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Calling people racist who haven't demonstrated racism is one of the reasons your side lost, stop crying wolf.

You are not fighting racism, people like you are actually making it harder to fight genuine racism. Much like false accusations of rape. Stop trying to steal from the genuine outrage racism warrants just to be insulting. Its really not worth it. "That's racist" has almost lost all its impact. And you turn away people who may have been on your side with these attempts to label and dismiss people.

We cannot move forward as a unified nation with that kind of discourse. Unless you want your side to maintain ZERO institutional power, cut it out FFS.
 
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