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Hillary activists want to sue over "rigged" election

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A group of computer scientists and election lawyers are urging Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton to challenge her election loss, saying they have evidence the results in three key battleground states were compromised.

According to New York magazine’s Gabriel Sherman, the activists say electronic voting systems in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania produced discrepancies that hurt Clinton.

The academics presented findings showing that in Wisconsin, Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that relied on electronic-voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots. Based on this statistical analysis, Clinton may have been denied as many as 30,000 votes; she lost Wisconsin by 27,000.
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Hmm interesting theory...

Nate Silver ✔@NateSilver538
...the effect COMPLETELY DISAPPEARS once you control for race and education levels, the key factors in predicting vote shifts this year.
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Nope Nate shut them down in one tweet. Maybe they should have skiped the gender studies and focused on math.

Hillary Clinton Has Grounds To Challenge Election Results, Activists Say | The Huffington Post
 
If there is any question about the results, then they should be investigated.. provided there is actual evidence of something strange. Now in this case, there seems to be, as some districts have more votes in them than people registered to vote. This might be an error or it might be fraud, but it has to be investigated does it not?
 
PeteEU said:
If there is any question about the results, then they should be investigated.. provided there is actual evidence of something strange.
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No such evidence exists at this time

Now in this case, there seems to be, as some districts have more votes in them than people registered to vote. This might be an error or it might be fraud, but it has to be investigated does it not?
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Nothing in my linked article says anything of the sort, do you have a source for this?
 
As much as I hate sour grapes, I feel all credible challenges to election results should be presented. I'd have to look more in depth into this one before I'd label it "credible."

Anyone who thinks the GOP doesn't do what it can to win elections, including at least attempting the same kind of fraud conservatives accuse Democrats of as a matter of routine, is kidding themselves.
 
PeteEU said:
If there is any question about the results, then they should be investigated.. provided there is actual evidence of something strange. Now in this case, there seems to be, as some districts have more votes in them than people registered to vote. This might be an error or it might be fraud, but it has to be investigated does it not?
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Of course it requires investigation and it will be. Too many powerful groups and persons have too much skin in that game and the information market is impossible to allow any cover-up. It could, however, take years and is not so much relevant for this election as for future ones.
 
Kobie said:
As much as I hate sour grapes, I feel all credible challenges to election results should be presented. I'd have to look more in depth into this one before I'd label it "credible."

Anyone who thinks the GOP doesn't do what it can to win elections, including at least attempting the same kind of fraud conservatives accuse Democrats of as a matter of routine, is kidding themselves.
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One of the absolute necessities of legitimacy in democratic polities is the understanding that the election process, whatever it might be, is honest and reliable. So I would be fully with you on that point.
 
Kobie said:
As much as I hate sour grapes, I feel all credible challenges to election results should be presented. I'd have to look more in depth into this one before I'd label it "credible."

Anyone who thinks the GOP doesn't do what it can to win elections, including at least attempting the same kind of fraud conservatives accuse Democrats of as a matter of routine, is kidding themselves.
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The issue is that this claim is in no way credible, they have what they think are some voting discrepancies on machine voting precincts but the statistics don't bear that out nor does the fact that the same "discrepancies" happened in all paper states Iowa and Minnesota.
 
Kobie said:
As much as I hate sour grapes, I feel all credible challenges to election results should be presented. I'd have to look more in depth into this one before I'd label it "credible."
Anyone who thinks the GOP doesn't do what it can to win elections, including at least attempting the same kind of fraud conservatives accuse Democrats of as a matter of routine, is kidding themselves.
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Did the RNC provide debate questions to the (R) candidate? (One of MANY examples).
Did the Conservatives use the IRS to target liberal groups in the last two republican administrations?
Deny until your face turns green if you want.

But don't hand me that crap about Conservatives being as dishonest. That's a crock of horse **** and an insult to all conservatives.
Cheating and lying is THE ONLY possible chance for Democrats to gain an upper hand in anything.

It starts with the lie they feed blacks about "caring" about them.
 
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Only hacked in the 3 states she lost. Wow what a coincidence.

With a 19,000 DOW and people feeling more confident than they have in decades, there’s not going to be any investigation of anything, believe me.
 
NoLeftNoRight said:
Cheating and lying is THE ONLY possible chance for Democrats to gain an upper hand in anything.
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Yeah, that and rioting, looting, burning, vandalizing, creating havoc.
 
PeteEU said:
If there is any question about the results, then they should be investigated.. provided there is actual evidence of something strange. Now in this case, there seems to be, as some districts have more votes in them than people registered to vote. This might be an error or it might be fraud, but it has to be investigated does it not?
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Of course it has to be investigated. Who is going to do it? Government certainly isn't. The last time we had such an investigation was the famous Bush/Gore affair in Florida. Weeks were spent investigating resulting in the supreme court ratifying the official vote. As it turns out, a group of academics went through the trouble of auditing the ballots well after things settled down only to discover that Bush's margin of victory was slightly greater than the official vote indicated.

The losers need to get ready for the next election. This one is over.
 
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