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The Party Of Old White People -

Moderate Right said:
I was just making a statement that the left always accuses the Republicans as being the party of old white rich people when they are literally not much different themselves.
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It is actually a fairly significant difference. Democratic elected officials are far more likely to be nonwhite males than is the case for republicans. And where it really counts is in the membership, where nonwhites make up a much larger percentage of the membership for democrats than republicans. Are things perfect? Of course not. But trying to point fingers at the party who is actually making an effort with at least some success if a poor strategy.
 
Moderate Right said:
If he is an Independent, then why did he run for president in the Democratic party and not as an Independent?
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Because he would have gotten little to no notice running as an independent. Same reason Trump ran as a republican despite being for a more intrusive government, protectionist trade policies and other nonrepublican stances.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Ignorance, is putting gender and race ahead of competence.
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Ignorance is assuming valuing diversity is putting gender and race ahead of competence. Hint: women, blacks, latinos, asians, they can be competent too. It's true, it's true!
 
:roll: Liberals are just too stupid to really look at the positions of minorities and understand why promoting changing demographics might undermine their political goals and accomplishments.
 
late said:
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Pretty much of a muchness... the big slide is from independent to Dems or Repubs. There just isn't much difference.

I know you were talking about leaders, but there isn't much difference there, it's been discussed, and this was not what I was expecting to find when I went looking.
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That graph is a little annoying to read. Whoever put it together should be fired.
 
Henrin said:
:roll: Liberals are just too stupid to really look at the positions of minorities and understand why promoting changing demographics might undermine their political goals and accomplishments.
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That might actually mean something if you had a clue as to what democrats goals and accomplishments are.
 
Redress said:
That might actually mean something if you had a clue as to what democrats goals and accomplishments are.
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Great insult. Tell me though, are liberal whites usually socially conservative?
 
late said:
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Pretty much of a muchness... the big slide is from independent to Dems or Repubs. There just isn't much difference.

I know you were talking about leaders, but there isn't much difference there, it's been discussed, and this was not what I was expecting to find when I went looking.
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That's very interesting.
 
Redress said:
It is actually a fairly significant difference. Democratic elected officials are far more likely to be nonwhite males than is the case for republicans. And where it really counts is in the membership, where nonwhites make up a much larger percentage of the membership for democrats than republicans. Are things perfect? Of course not. But trying to point fingers at the party who is actually making an effort with at least some success if a poor strategy.
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I'm just sick of the constant liberal hypocrisy.
 
Redress said:
Because he would have gotten little to no notice running as an independent. Same reason Trump ran as a republican despite being for a more intrusive government, protectionist trade policies and other nonrepublican stances.
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For someone who claims to be very liberal, you seem to have a level head on your shoulders. I have to say that is very refreshing to the blindly partisan who only see and read with one eye and only hear with one ear.
 
Moderate Right said:
I'm just sick of the constant liberal hypocrisy.
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The hypocrisy is largely(though sadly not entirely) in your imagination though. Democrats have worked, and hard, to include those other than old white men into their leadership. The issue is as much getting enough other than old white men who are both qualified for those leadership roles, experienced enough for those roles, and are interested. It is a work in progress, but we are improving.
 
Redress said:
The hypocrisy is largely(though sadly not entirely) in your imagination though. Democrats have worked, and hard, to include those other than old white men into their leadership. The issue is as much getting enough other than old white men who are both qualified for those leadership roles, experienced enough for those roles, and are interested. It is a work in progress, but we are improving.
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I was actually talking more about the hypocrisy in other areas, but this one too.
 
Redress said:
There are over 6 times the number of nonwhites in the house among democrats as republicans. Sanders in not a democrat(hint: he is an independent, look it up). Try again, but with less fail.
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I thought race did not exist?
 
Clearly, the party that panders to constituencies by identity will be the party that has multiple identities strewn throughout their membership and elected representatives. That would be the Democrat Party. The fact that all or the large part of the Democrat Party leadership, as noted in the OP, consists of older white men and women, should tell those various constituencies that the Democrat Party loves to pander, but is really all about using them for their own political gain and benefit. When an individual finally wakes up and comes to this realization that being lumped into Democrat identity politics does them no good at all, they will wisely move their vote where it will benefit their country and themselves. This is why, even with changing demographics, the Republican Party isn't nearly as dead as the pundits, the media, and the Democrat Party would like you to believe.

I'd also note, related to the chart that was posted on the first page, the low numbers of self-identifying Republicans in the youngest demographics is simply reflective of the overwhelming influence of academia's ideological, socialist bent. As young people move out of academia and into the workforce, they gain a greater exposure, understanding and appreciation for conservatism.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Clearly, the party that panders to constituencies by identity will be the party that has multiple identities strewn throughout their membership and elected representatives. That would be the Democrat Party. The fact that all or the large part of the Democrat Party leadership, as noted in the OP, consists of older white men and women, should tell those various constituencies that the Democrat Party loves to pander, but is really all about using them for their own political gain and benefit. When an individual finally wakes up and comes to this realization that being lumped into Democrat identity politics does them no good at all, they will wisely move their vote where it will benefit their country and themselves. This is why, even with changing demographics, the Republican Party isn't nearly as dead as the pundits, the media, and the Democrat Party would like you to believe.

I'd also note, related to the chart that was posted on the first page, the low numbers of self-identifying Republicans in the youngest demographics is simply reflective of the overwhelming influence of academia's ideological, socialist bent. As young people move out of academia and into the workforce, they gain a greater exposure, understanding and appreciation for conservatism.
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They can not allow anyone to make a choice so they just infect the minds of the youth with lies and failed ideas..
 
Moderate Right said:
Is the Democrats. The House is headed up by Nancy Pelosi. The Senate is headed up by Harry Reid, soon to be Chuck Schumer. Hillary could have been president and was the party's nominee. The new leader of the party seems to be Bernie Sanders. In case no one noticed, these are all old white people.
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Darn these old geasers.

Just for the record though, Trump is an old white guy also.
 
Redress said:
Ignorance is assuming valuing diversity is putting gender and race ahead of competence. Hint: women, blacks, latinos, asians, they can be competent too. It's true, it's true!
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We are not assuming, that is the case.

Have you ever heard of "The Bell Curve"?
 
Redress said:
Care to show where I said that?
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There are over 6 times the number of nonwhites in the house among democrats as republicans. Sanders in not a democrat(hint: he is an independent, look it up). Try again, but with less fail.
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Leftists love to claim "race does not exist", well does it?
 
CanadaJohn said:
Clearly, the party that panders to constituencies by identity will be the party that has multiple identities strewn throughout their membership and elected representatives. That would be the Democrat Party. The fact that all or the large part of the Democrat Party leadership, as noted in the OP, consists of older white men and women, should tell those various constituencies that the Democrat Party loves to pander, but is really all about using them for their own political gain and benefit. When an individual finally wakes up and comes to this realization that being lumped into Democrat identity politics does them no good at all, they will wisely move their vote where it will benefit their country and themselves. This is why, even with changing demographics, the Republican Party isn't nearly as dead as the pundits, the media, and the Democrat Party would like you to believe.

I'd also note, related to the chart that was posted on the first page, the low numbers of self-identifying Republicans in the youngest demographics is simply reflective of the overwhelming influence of academia's ideological, socialist bent. As young people move out of academia and into the workforce, they gain a greater exposure, understanding and appreciation for conservatism.
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Greetings, CJ. :2wave:

And they think they need "safe places" now? :mrgreen: These are the same people that got trophies - and a juice box - regardless of who won the baseball game they were playing when they were youngsters. The shock of finding out that living in the real world is something they probably never imagined existed.

As an analogy, there is an ad on TV that has a young man yelling over and over "I can't believe this is happening" when he finds that his car has been vandalized, and an older man standing nearby smilingly telling him "Oh, it's happening, sweetheart!" Priceless! I can even feel a little bit sorry for him.... :lamo

Off topic, it's 72 degrees here, but they're predicting snow Sunday, as you warned me a few days ago! Good old NE Ohio! :eek:
 
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