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Lawmaker's 'Suck it Up, Buttercup' Bill Targets Students' Trump Hysteria

Jesse Booth said:
Cite a single law that allows the government to press people into service without convicting them of a crime. Then explain how forced labor for sensitivity is how a FREE society works.
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Civil Rights Act of 1964
A large amount of regulations.
Withholding
Tax returns
 
Jesse Booth said:
Cite a single law that allows the government to press people into service without convicting them of a crime. Then explain how forced labor for sensitivity is how a FREE society works.
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its not forced labor. its merely just a punishment for their wrong doings. its not a big deal like youre making it out to be
 
Henrin said:
Civil Rights Act of 1964
A large amount of regulations.
Withholding
Tax returns
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It's not quite the same thing for a few academic distinctions, but I'll cede victory on the point of the Civil Rights Act. I'm not sure what you were referring to with the withholding of tax returns part. Explain, please.
 
11Bravo said:
its not forced labor. its merely just a punishment for their wrong doings. its not a big deal like youre making it out to be
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I'll pretend that forcing someone to labor on a public works project somehow ISN'T forced labor, for the sake of hypotheticals. How in God's name do you think the government can... "punish" people without convicting them of a crime? Then tell me what crime these students would be... "punished" for.
 
Jesse Booth said:
I'll pretend that forcing someone to labor on a public works project somehow ISN'T forced labor, for the sake of hypotheticals. How in God's name do you think the government can... "punish" people without convicting them of a crime?
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thats a fair and rational question. it should be up to a town vote. people in each town would vote, like a jury. its fair and they have a right to do so as we are a free country
 
Jesse Booth said:
Okay, what crime are these people being accused of?
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no crimes at all. if this were crime, it would go to a jury trial and they would face jail time. this is just punishing them for stupidity.
 
11Bravo said:
thats debatable. the law isnt clear on that
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No, it isn't. There is no legal penalty for seeking therapy or counseling from your school or college, nor is there one for a school or college providing it. As for just complaining, that is a right guaranteed to you by the 1st Amendment. Unil legislation is passed to deal with the counseling, the 10th Amendment protects all rights that are not listed in the constitution - in essence, everything that is not illegal, is legal. There is also no legislation or legal process to allow a community to hold a mass vote to "punish" their neighbors and family members that they disapprove of, and as such, one's right to a fair and speedy trial, as guaranteed by the 6th Amendment, takes priority over any unlisted rights given to the states.

You have no legal standing for your desire to "punish" people you disagree with or disapprove of, and if you're smart, you'll be damn thankful that the founding fathers were leery of mob rule - last I checked, liberals outnumber conservatives, and a popular vote on their part could see the majority "punishing" you for having problematic opinions.
 
Jesse Booth said:
No, it isn't. There is no legal penalty for seeking therapy or counseling from your school or college, nor is there one for a school or college providing it. As for just complaining, that is a right guaranteed to you by the 1st Amendment. Unil legislation is passed to deal with the counseling, the 10th Amendment protects all rights that are not listed in the constitution - in essence, everything that is not illegal, is legal. There is also no legislation or legal process to allow a community to hold a mass vote to "punish" their neighbors and family members that they disapprove of, and as such, one's right to a fair and speedy trial, as guaranteed by the 6th Amendment, takes priority over any unlisted rights given to the states.

You have no legal standing for your desire to "punish" people you disagree with or disapprove of, and if you're smart, you'll be damn thankful that the founding fathers were leery of mob rule - last I checked, liberals outnumber conservatives, and a popular vote on their part could see the majority "punishing" you for having problematic opinions.
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neither you nor i can tell if its legal or not. the law is open to interpretation. trump can interpret it differently too
 
sanman said:
I think it's the state's responsibility to ensure taxpayer money isn't used to subsidize anyone trying to cut off the free speech of others in the name of personal grief.

If you as a student are found to have assaulted someone just because you didn't like their support of a particular election candidate, then your student aid/loans should be pulled.

If your academic institution is firing profs or kicking students out of class just for preferring a particular candidate, then the state aid to that institution needs to be yanked.

Student Kicked Out Of Class For Disagreeing That Trump Election Was As Bad As 9/11 | Zero Hedge
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More info would be needed to decide whether she was really kicked out of class for expressing her opinion or support of a particular candidate or whether there is more to the story.


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11Bravo said:
neither you nor i can tell if its legal or not. the law is open to interpretation. trump can interpret it differently too
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The law is not as flexible and mutable as you seem to believe, but that's besides the point - not only is there no law in place allowing ANYTHING close to what you're asking for, but it is a violation of multiple amendments to our constitution and centuries of precedent in their interpretation. As I've said before, you have no ground to stand on in this case.
 
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