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Potus PENCE?? 0_0

You're right about the consequences, I think. As to his ability to stay away, he will have to sooner or later.;) might as well he sooner. I personally have great hopes since I don't think a true hopeless workaholic could have effectively stayed away during the campaign. He's been grooming his children for years. And he'll have a very effective channel for his energies as POTUS.

If he CAN'T, I think he will completely destroy his brand. And I doubt that's anywhere near what he wants to do.

So let's hope he turns out to be a smarter man than many give him credit for and we can avoid seeing Pence as our new uber-conservative President, something few people really want.
 
No. Pence is rather frightening in that evangelical religious way that makes so many people cringe in many different ways.

He is certainly not the liberal dream of libertarians.
 
Thanks for the OP, I've been thinking along the same lines.

If things go as badly as I think, Republicans will have no choice but to dump Trump.
 
Impeached based on what? This stupid **** is getting ridiculous. :roll:

Did you read the article? It explains it in there and it is a prediction, nothing more.
 
Thanks for the OP, I've been thinking along the same lines.

If things go as badly as I think, Republicans will have no choice but to dump Trump.

Gives you hope, doesn't it?
 
Pence was hardly the focus of vitriol during the campaign. This is just another way the opposition is throwing **** against the wall praying it will stick.

Oh you mean like Republicans did the entire election with Hillary? What was Hillary actually indicted for? Oh yeah, NOTHING.
 
He is certainly not the liberal dream of libertarians.

He's also not what most swing-voters and centrists have supported, and in many cases he's not what many to the "right" of center have begun to support either.

Think Santorum, Bachmann, Perry, and such. I see Pence as being far more like them.
 

I heard that guy on the radio a month before the election. It was bizarre listening to the man attack his own prediction model before the election because, even though it showed Trump winning, it was obvious to him that Trump was a Russian conspirator blah blah blah.

He was a nut.

I'm fairly certain that this announcement is not based on any time tested model and is more just goblins of his own subconscious.
 
Pence was visible when he had to be.

No he wasn't. He was a non-entity throughout the entire election.
Same with Kaine.

Neither VP choice was even remotely a factor anywhere.

Every single bit of focus was laser-guided at Trump and Clinton.
 
I'm fairly certain that this announcement is not based on any time tested model and is more just goblins of his own subconscious.

He's been right since 1984. Just how much time testing did you have in mind?

His method has been in the news on several occasions, including in this thread, none of which you read.

But I do enjoy fantasy.
 
He's been right since 1984. Just how much time testing did you have in mind?

So you suffer under the false impression that he has a single model that predicts election outcomes AND impeachments? :roll:

What is his record on predicting impeachments?
 
Trump verbally shoots from the hip. He may attract an opposite.
 
You can't be impeached for things that happened before you were in office.

That sounds plausible, but I tried to find a legal opinion confirming it. Maybe I missed it and you could help with a link. The legal texts I did find, seemed not to exclude crime predating the election.
 
Making THAT prediction isn't far-fetched. If I've learned one thing this election cycle, though, it's that predictions can be 180-degrees from correct.

Impeachment would mean DT had done something illegal while in office.

Should we wait 'til he gets there first?


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He's also not what most swing-voters and centrists have supported, and in many cases he's not what many to the "right" of center have begun to support either.

Think Santorum, Bachmann, Perry, and such. I see Pence as being far more like them.

He is Trump's poison pill against impeachment. ;)
 
That sounds plausible, but I tried to find a legal opinion confirming it. Maybe I missed it and you could help with a link. The legal texts I did find, seemed not to exclude crime predating the election.

Welllll, I Googled last week and just took Wiki. Came up first. One and done. Now that I try to find others, I'm having trouble with same. In fact ANOTHER Wiki site discussing high crimes and misdemeanors said that in very FEW cases impeachment was undertaken for actions outside of office. The footnote for that statement didn't hunt. House.gov didn't address it.

I'm thinking now that it's not so cut and dried. Thank you for having me rethink, JOG.
 
Welllll, I Googled last week and just took Wiki. Came up first. One and done. Now that I try to find others, I'm having trouble with same. In fact ANOTHER Wiki site discussing high crimes and misdemeanors said that in very FEW cases impeachment was undertaken for actions outside of office. The footnote for that statement didn't hunt. House.gov didn't address it.

I'm thinking now that it's not so cut and dried. Thank you for having me rethink, JOG.

That was helpful. Thank you.
 
None.

Trump would have to commit his crimes while in office.
It would then take 2/3rds of he house to vote and 2/3rds of the senate to remove him.

This guy is putting the cart before the horse.

No, it only takes a majority vote in the House to impeach.
 
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