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Obama's Popularity... Is it real?

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We saw the poll results for the election shock the world with their misrepresentation of reality...

Obama's popularity, job approval and the like... the same? Misrepresented?

I'd venture a yes, as people simply don't want to be called racist for not claiming support for the first black president.

His policies have been soundly rejected across the country... from state houses to The White House.

Obama has proven to be a one man wrecking ball, destroying the the Demokrat Partei.

And he's going to stick around DC... ROTFLOL... to remind us of the terrible job he did. I say... that's great!
 
You know, zimmer, you eventually have to accept certain things in reality, lest you teeter on the edge of insanity. This was a precarious election season that defied all electoral conventions. The polls you speak of constantly oscillated between Clinton and Trump. Nate Silver had Trump's chances of winning going into election day at 35%, and that percentage persistently rose as election day passed. Taking that into account, I have no reason to whimsically reject Obama's popularity. In fact, it's completely rational for Obama to be quite popular at the moment, since republicans finally got off his back and the uncertainty Trump portends and the divisiveness of this election season are already making people reminisce about Obama's days of perceived stability and sensibility.
 
I don't know how we trust any poll at this point. Besides, how popular/unpopular he is at this point is pretty much irrelevant. Hes heading out the door and much of his legacy will be dismantled.
 
You know, zimmer, you eventually have to accept certain things in reality, lest you teeter on the edge of insanity. This was a precarious election season that defied all electoral conventions. The polls you speak of constantly oscillated between Clinton and Trump. Nate Silver had Trump's chances of winning going into election day at 35%, and that percentage persistently rose as election day passed. Taking that into account, I have no reason to whimsically reject Obama's popularity. In fact, it's completely rational for Obama to be quite popular at the moment, since republicans finally got off his back and the uncertainty Trump portends and the divisiveness of this election season are already making people reminisce about Obama's days of perceived stability and sensibility.


Accept reality!!! Reality is these polls have been dead wrong for 18-months. That is the reality.

A 10 to 12 point lead for Hillary 14-days out!? When she could barely fill a shopping mall parking lot.

Of course Nate Silver will correct his predictions in real-time... but that's merely reacting to reality of votes being cast. When it came to asking people beforehand... they got is massively wrong.

And I dare say, they have it massively wrong with Obama too.
 
The polls had it wrong all the way up to election day.

A 10 to 12 point lead 14-days out!?

Of course Nate Silver will correct his predictions in real-time... but that's merely reacting to reality of votes being cast. When it came to asking people beforehand... they got is massively wrong.

And I dare say, they have it massively wrong with Obama too.

Trump's ***** grabbing comments, the dozen of allegations of sexual misconduct, and his abject performance in the 3rd debate swung the polls sharply in favor of Hillary. Likewise, Comey's public letter did the same in the opposite direction, and a few polls had Trump winning 3-4 days leading to election day.
 
We saw the poll results for the election shock the world with their misrepresentation of reality...

Obama's popularity, job approval and the like... the same? Misrepresented?

I'd venture a yes, as people simply don't want to be called racist for not claiming support for the first black president.

His policies have been soundly rejected across the country... from state houses to The White House.

Obama has proven to be a one man wrecking ball, destroying the the Demokrat Partei.

And he's going to stick around DC... ROTFLOL... to remind us of the terrible job he did. I say... that's great!
I suspect that the polling and the media will double-down on the "OBAMA POPULARITY" meme.

Trump just doesn't win if the president has the popularity the MSM is trying to make it out to be.
 
We saw the poll results for the election shock the world with their misrepresentation of reality...

The RCP average of national polls had her winning by 3. In the end it looks like she'll win the popular vote by 1-1.5. Not that huge a miss.

But I'll grant you, perhaps Obama's approval rating isn't really 58, but rather more like 56.
 
I don't know how we trust any poll at this point.
Besides, how popular/unpopular he is at this point is pretty much irrelevant.
Hes heading out the door and much of his legacy will be dismantled.



That's pretty much exactly what I was just thinking.

A few years from now after Trump levels Pyongyang with a few nukes after some North Korean provocation people in the USA will be remembering the 'good old days' under Obama.

I'm not wishing for that-I'm just saying that with Trump it could happen.

I'll spend the next 4 years hoping that it doesn't.
 
Obama was a no drama president, and he's fairly charismatic in a low key sort of way. What's not to believe?
 
We saw the poll results for the election shock the world with their misrepresentation of reality...

Obama's popularity, job approval and the like... the same? Misrepresented?

I'd venture a yes, as people simply don't want to be called racist for not claiming support for the first black president.

His policies have been soundly rejected across the country... from state houses to The White House.

Obama has proven to be a one man wrecking ball, destroying the the Demokrat Partei.

And he's going to stick around DC... ROTFLOL... to remind us of the terrible job he did. I say... that's great!
So if the polls that say Obama is still respected and those polls say Hillary has less than a 50% approval rating and trump has on 36% approval rating mean nothing and your guy won, so what are you whining about? Just trying to purge out that last little bit of hate you have left over for Obama. Your guy is going to in the limelight, as will the Republican Congress, you have two years, that is all, to get some major work done, fail and the party ends. Get ready to be on the receiving end of the harsh critics, there will not be any excuses that will be acceptable to the American People if you fail to make the USA Great Again.
 
We saw the poll results for the election shock the world with their misrepresentation of reality...

Obama's popularity, job approval and the like... the same? Misrepresented?

I'd venture a yes, as people simply don't want to be called racist for not claiming support for the first black president.

His policies have been soundly rejected across the country... from state houses to The White House.

Obama has proven to be a one man wrecking ball, destroying the the Demokrat Partei.

And he's going to stick around DC... ROTFLOL... to remind us of the terrible job he did. I say... that's great!
The Donald's national polls were off 2%,

By basing your distrust upon the recent poll results, if you'd like to claim the President's numbers are off in similar fashion - that's still a great exit number for a two-term end-of-term President! Correspond he's over 50 (even with your fudge-factor), vs his G.W.B. predecessor exiting at 22!

Also HRC was widely seen as an incumbent continuation of the Obama Presidency, running on Obama's platform & legacy. Even with her being terribly disliked and belabored with baggage and legal problems, including Congressional & multiple FBI investigations during the campaign, her party - which Obama heads & represents - was *still* more popular than Trump as seen by votes cast.

So yeah, the guy's real, and the People recently cast their votes to show it. On the way out of office he's far more popular than the current President elect (Trump). And that's *really* saying something! Reversed approval numbers for incoming-outgoing Presidents is unusual, though it also did occur with President Clinton leaving and GWB coming in.
 
The RCP average of national polls had her winning by 3. In the end it looks like she'll win the popular vote by 1-1.5. Not that huge a miss.

But I'll grant you, perhaps Obama's approval rating isn't really 58, but rather more like 56.
Yes.

That's exactly the argument Zimmer made, though I suspect he didn't realize it.

I expressed this in more detail in post #12.
 
The polls had Hillary up by as much as 12, and regularly 6 or 7.

She was never close to those margins.

At the end of all these months, they brought the margins down just before election day...

Why?

To shape public opinion, to tip the scales... just like their squalid "reporting".

Is it possible these same propagandists have done the same with Obama's numbers all these years? ROTFLOL... ahhhh... I think we all know the answer to that, deep down, even the Obama supporters do too.
 
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