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Colin Kaepernick Did Not Vote

Moderate Right said:
I find it very amusing that he called Hillary a racist. I wonder what she and others on the left think of that? It's about time the left quit calling those on the right every name in the book and truly tried bringing the country together so that the whole country could be "Stronger Together". To them this phrase only includes Democrats and those on the right who will cowtail to their left wing policies and agendas. We need both parties to compromise and be understanding and inclusive of the other but both sides think they can claim the moral high ground and try cramming their ideals on the whole country.
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I agree with you, and I wish your sentiments were the order of the day.

There are ideological forces at play on the left that require division in order to achieve their objective. Unless those forces are rejected, the division will continue as it is the only way to gain control of their followers.
 
MickeyW said:
He is a loser. He's gone over to his Darker side. I'm no longer a 49er fan. I don't like Kappy or the Pillsbury Doghboy. And I'm still pissed off that they abandoned Candlestick Park!
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Off topic but I was curious about how a conservative likes living in Oregon. My wife is originally from California and we used to talk about retiring in Oregon but I just can't see myself living in such a liberal state. It's just way too blue tor me.
 
Moderate Right said:
Off topic but I was curious about how a conservative likes living in Oregon. My wife is originally from California and we used to talk about retiring in Oregon but I just can't see myself living in such a liberal state. It's just way too blue tor me.
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About 80% of the land area is Conservative, the other 20% is the most populated ....and the bastards now out vote us. It was slightly Red for many years, decades even. But in the last 15-20 years, the Lefties have crept in from Calif and Wash. State, and ruined it.

Gun rights have been hammered due to a Legislature that is made up of 35 Democrats and 25 Republicans and an AC/DC Gov. douchebag. The Bloomberg, anti-gun group has contributed heavily to the campaigns of liberals. So has Paul Allen, owner of the Seahawks. Both are anti-gun billionaires and the average gun folks can't compete with that kind of money. There ought to be a law to keep these kinds of people from buying an election...but that's what they did. In Nevada too.
The majority of Southern and Eastern Oregon is Conservatives and very strong gun folks. Our county votes the exact opposite of those in the Portland metro and Eugene.
If I weren't so entrenched here with a good clientele for my home business and all my children and grand children, I'd move to a true Red state. But, I'm too old for that and will tough it out. The last stupid anti-gun law that the Left passed is just ignored by most of us, including many Oregon Sheriff's.
 
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jamesrage said:
If you find both candidates to be despicable pieces of **** why vote for either of them? To some people thats like asking do you want your right toe or your left toe smashed with a hammer. The result is going to be the same regardless of what you pick.



If you think both of the candidates are pieces **** then evil triumphs regardless. Not everyone is a Clinton-tard or a Trump-tard.


I am all for people not voting if they think both of the candidates suck ass,that its a waste of time to vote or just not knowledgeable on the issues. Heck I wish more people who are ignorant when it comes to politics did not vote.
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There were four candidates.

There is also the option to write in.
 
jamesrage said:
He is a loser because he felt both the candidates were pieces of **** not worth voting for?
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That was one choice (for the office of POTUS) out of many on the ballot.

Protesting by only complaining is:

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code1211 said:
There were four candidates.

There is also the option to write in.
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When it comes to 3rd party candidates the average voters don't know they exist or who they are and I serious doubt those same people know that you can write in a candidate assuming they actually live in a state that allows write-ins.
 
HonestJoe said:
I actually disagree with his choice not to vote at all but I agree with his right to make that choice just as I would if he chose to vote for a candidate I disproved of. I'm biased on the topic of free speech, so I find the idea that anyone should be publicly silenced on the basis of their election choices (whatever they are) disgusting.
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His complaint is that he doesn't like the choices that others have made and seems to blame all others (protesting the entire nation?). Perhaps he wishes us to join him in pouting, complaining and yet doing, basically, nothing else. No, thank you.
 
Moderate Right said:
What a total loser.

Colin Kaepernick didn't vote in the election, and some people are furious - CBS News
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His decision. Apparently he didn't like either of the two major party candidates and stayed home as quite a lot of people did this time around. Four million less people voted this year than in 2012, third party candidates which received a bit less than 2% of the total vote in 2012 with 2 million votes, this year received just under 5% of the total vote with 7 million votes. Quite a lot of people disliked both candidates.

Gallup put that figure at 25%, YouGov at 22% who disliked both candidates. Now a lot of those held their nose and voted for their least dislike even hated candidate, but a lot voted for third party candidates or stayed home. Colin Kaepernick is not unique. In 2016 you had a bit more than 125 million people cast their vote out of 251 million eligible. 2012 it was 130 million out of 241 million eligible, 2008 133 million out of 231 eligible. So even though those eligible rose 20 million since 2008, there still was 8 million less people voted this year than in 2008. That is the dislike factor of both candidates coming into play.

No, Colin Kaepernick is not unique in that quite a lot of people decided they were not going to make the choice between Trump and Clinton. They viewed both as horrible candidates and decided to stay home instead of choosing between the lesser of two evils or the least hated candidate.
 
Perotista said:
His decision. Apparently he didn't like either of the two major party candidates and stayed home as quite a lot of people did this time around. Four million less people voted this year than in 2012, third party candidates which received a bit less than 2% of the total vote in 2012 with 2 million votes, this year received just under 5% of the total vote with 7 million votes. Quite a lot of people disliked both candidates.

Gallup put that figure at 25%, YouGov at 22% who disliked both candidates. Now a lot of those held their nose and voted for their least dislike even hated candidate, but a lot voted for third party candidates or stayed home. Colin Kaepernick is not unique. In 2016 you had a bit more than 125 million people cast their vote out of 251 million eligible. 2012 it was 130 million out of 241 million eligible, 2008 133 million out of 231 eligible. So even though those eligible rose 20 million since 2008, there still was 8 million less people voted this year than in 2008. That is the dislike factor of both candidates coming into play.

No, Colin Kaepernick is not unique in that quite a lot of people decided they were not going to make the choice between Trump and Clinton. They viewed both as horrible candidates and decided to stay home instead of choosing between the lesser of two evils or the least hated candidate.
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I find it very naive of Clinton and her supporters to think that they lost because their "base" did not come out to vote, costing them the election. As you correctly analyzed, there were a lot of people from BOTH parties who failed to come out and vote. I don't think there was enough of a difference on either side to make the claim that things would have been different if their base did not come out to vote.
 
HonestJoe said:
That's irrelevant. If I grew up in a house where if you questioned authority you got a punch in the mouth, would that make it right for a nation?

He hasn't been protesting governance, he's been protesting social attitudes and police procedures.

Voting in the Presidential election wasn't especially meaningful, especially in relation to the specific issues he's been highlighting. Regardless, openly choosing not to vote is still a valid choice, no different to voting for a third party who has no chance of winning or writing in a name of someone who isn't eligible to be President.

The argument here is that he shouldn't have the right to speak out and that anything he says should be dismissed out of hand, regardless of any actual validity. Of course, if he'd voted for Clinton or a third party, the same people would probably still say he doesn't have the right to speak out. This is an excuse, not a reason.
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I am those "same people" and I would not say that.

I support his right to speak, but merely point out that he is hypocritical. Any point he thinks he is making is completely destroyed by his laziness and stupidity.

He bemoans the removal or limitation of his rights by "the man" while using those rights to protest (proving that he has those rights) and then skips the right and responsibility to vote.

The guy is an idiot. He is using the rights but can't grasp the fact that he has them and refuses to use rights when it requires some effort.

If he only used his buttocks to sit on, that would be good. He seems to use them to think as well.
 
Van Basten said:
He's proven he can't be taken seriously when it comes to politics, but I wish him the best in his community work.
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I thought he was a football player, not a political figure?
 
jamesrage said:
When it comes to 3rd party candidates the average voters don't know they exist or who they are and I serious doubt those same people know that you can write in a candidate assuming they actually live in a state that allows write-ins.
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The point is, he is refusing to use the rights that he has and claims that he does not have.

The average voter might be as stupid as you say. There is little evidence to counter that.

Good, bad or indifferent, though, the current intelligencia believes that anyone who has the right to vote should vote even if they are so lazy and stupid that getting a free photo ID is beyond their capabilities.

I assume that Colin has a photo ID, but apparently cannot connect the dots between voting and elections winners.
 
code1211 said:
In the real world, you need to choose the good even if the perfect is not available.

The only way for evil to triumph is when good men do nothing.

Good or bad, this worthless gas bag sat down when he should have stood up. Again.
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There was no good, seems some do not get it.
 
jonny5 said:
Finally he did something meaningful. I agree with his action, and did not vote either in order to avoid supporting the federal govt. We need more people to do so in order to delegitimize the govt.
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But what about local government? He didn't vote for anyone at any level.
 
Thoreau72 said:
I thought he was a football player, not a political figure?
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Well, the truth is, he is NOT a football player and he has turned himself into a political figure, mostly because he sucks at football and needs to find something else to do.
 
Casper said:
There was no good, seems some do not get it.
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That is often the case in life.

If you have $6000 to buy a car, it's likely that the good is not available to you. You need to choose from what is available TO YOU.

Maybe you can't make it into Harvard to become a lawyer, but you can make it into the local Community College and get a degree to repair jet engines.

Do you skip that in order to work at McDonald's instead?

The problem with the real world is that it's so real.
 
"Wherever he is, if he ain’t on that football field trying to throw another damn incomplete pass, do me a favor and make sure of one thing: Take the camera away from him. It means nothing."

I believe the point being made is that everyone has the right to bitch, but voting is the one place where you can put power to that voice. I voted for Jon Huntsman. He had no chance in winning. I know that. But My vote went to someone I believe can make a positive change in that role. In addition to voting for a pres and VP I can actually be proud of, I also voted for congressional candidates, state leaders, and state ballot initiatives. 'Voting' is more than selecting one of two sacks of **** placed before the American people by the two major parties.

Kaepernick's decision not to vote is as vapid as his initial argument.
 
Moderate Right said:
Well, the truth is, he is NOT a football player and he has turned himself into a political figure, mostly because he sucks at football and needs to find something else to do.
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Actually if you are being more honest, he is doing it to impress his new girlfriend.
 
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