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What Trump Is Really Like

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Anti-immigrant, racist, misogynistic? None of that is true.

The 70-year-old Republican nominee took his time walking from the green room toward the stage. He stopped to chat with the waiters, service workers, police officers, and other convention staffers facilitating the event. There were no selfies, no glad-handing for votes, no trailing television cameras. Out of view of the press, Trump warmly greets everyone he sees, asks how they are, and, when he can, asks for their names and what they do.

“I am blown away!” said one worker, an African American man who asked for anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to speak to the press. “The man I just saw there talking to people is nothing like what I’ve seen, day in and day out, in the news.”
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The media created a straw man to stand for Trump.

Because he wanted to get control of illegal immigration, keep terrorists out of the country, and because he wanted to keep criminals from being dumped in our country by Mexico, and because he said exactly what liberals always say, that an Hispanic judge would favor his own ethnic group (or else what is the whole point of diversity in the judiciary?), he was deemed anti-immigrant and racist.

Because he was crude and rude to women who where crude and rude to him, and because of some locker room talk from many years ago, he was deemed misogynistic.

But gays, women, and minorities are on his list of people he's seeking for White House staff, and by all accounts in real life he's nice to everyone.
 
you are trying tp paint a woman groper as nice. honest people know better.
 
If there was a strawman, it was Trump's creation.

"They're rapists"

"She had blood coming out of wherever."

Should I keep going? There's thousands more.
 
Trump has always been nice with the little people.

Sometimes he gives them jobs that they are not qualified for because he gets off on giving them a shot.
 
Man, OP feels eerily reminiscent of Nazi propaganda and the personality cult it created around Hitler.

That being said, and judging from the other posts by Trump's groupies in this topic, I have high hope for the entertainment value of the next 4 years.
 
LowDown said:
Anti-immigrant, racist, misogynistic? None of that is true.

The media created a straw man to stand for Trump.

Because he wanted to get control of illegal immigration, keep terrorists out of the country, and because he wanted to keep criminals from being dumped in our country by Mexico, and because he said exactly what liberals always say, that an Hispanic judge would favor his own ethnic group (or else what is the whole point of diversity in the judiciary?), he was deemed anti-immigrant and racist.

Because he was crude and rude to women who where crude and rude to him, and because of some locker room talk from many years ago, he was deemed misogynistic.

But gays, women, and minorities are on his list of people he's seeking for White House staff, and by all accounts in real life he's nice to everyone.
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He's not stupid. Obviously, he's going to have to reign in his ego, and he'll have an entire cabinet of people reminding him of that. If anything, it would have been HILLARY who would have gone rogue, and smugly ignored anyone's advice.

I'm not saying the guy will be another JFK or Reagan, but he's definitely not going to be another Hoover or Carter either.
 
Gaztopian said:
Man, OP feels eerily reminiscent of Nazi propaganda and the personality cult it created around Hitler.
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Careful. You just described Hillary's whole election campaign, and the sycophantic sheep that followed it.
 
Velvet Elvis said:
Careful. You just described Hillary's whole election campaign, and the sycophantic sheep that followed it.
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That's funny, considering that one of the main lines of attack against her from both sides of the isle was that there was no enthusiasm around her and that she didn't inspire much.
 
Gaztopian said:
Man, OP feels eerily reminiscent of Nazi propaganda and the personality cult it created around Hitler.

That being said, and judging from the other posts by Trump's groupies in this topic, I have high hope for the entertainment value of the next 4 years.
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Godwin's law
Godwin's Law (or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1"—​ that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Godwin's law
Godwin's Law (or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1"—​ that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.
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Yea yea, I know what Godwin's law is and I did feel slightly guilty making the reference right off the bat.
 
I have no doubt that the image Trump crafted for himself as a bigoted, misogynist, foul mouth womanizer was just that. "An image."

And it worked. It connected with the lowest denominator in American society and it worked.

It was his means to an end. It got him the job. For that, I call him a winner. Those who fell for the facade, we'll, you can't really blame Trump for their gullibility. You can only applaud him for taking advantage of it.

I am looking forward to Mr. Trump to keep on winning and do great things for our nation now that he doesn't have to act that way anymore to appease the malcontents.

I am hoping he will do GREAT! We should all wish him success as his success is our success. All of us. A rising tide raises all boats.

Thinking positive! Time will tell.
 
Gaztopian said:
That's funny, considering that one of the main lines of attack against her from both sides of the isle was that there was no enthusiasm around her and that she didn't inspire much.
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What??? No. The main lines of attack against her was that she was the most godawful corrupt person ever to be elected to office. Every time I saw her, I saw Claire Underwood from "House of Cards." The woman made Richard Nixon look like a saint.
 
Velvet Elvis said:
What??? No. The main lines of attack against her was that she was the most godawful corrupt person ever to be elected to office. Every time I saw her, I saw Claire Underwood from "House of Cards." The woman made Richard Nixon look like a saint.
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So you reject that accusing her of a lack of enthusiasm and inspiration was a main line of attack against her?

You won, it's over, you can comfortably be honest now.
 
Gaztopian said:
So you reject that accusing her of a lack of enthusiasm and inspiration was a main line of attack against her?
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Honestly, I can't think of an instance that supports your claim. She inspired plenty of neo-socialists, drooling at the notion of bleeding the rich even more. She was very enthusiastic when she deflected against questions regarding her scandals, in the debates. If anything, that cardboard cutout they propped up next to her in the primaries lacked enthusiasm and inspiration (not Sanders...the other so-and-so).

Every single person I know who voted against her gave their reasoning as not voting for a crook or a career politician. Not because of a lack of anything (except scruples).
 
katzgar said:
you are trying tp paint a woman groper as nice. honest people know better.
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No doubt you think Bill Clinton is nice.

A Republican gets elected President and all of a sudden progs are against executive orders, a sycophant press corps, and sexual assault by Presidents.
 
LowDown said:
No doubt you think Bill Clinton is nice.

A Republican gets elected President and all of a sudden progs are against executive orders, a sycophant press corps, and sexual assault by Presidents.
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suggesting I liked Billy Bob is dishonest. play all the games you wish. trump is still a sleaze bag.
 
Captain America said:
I have no doubt that the image Trump crafted for himself as a bigoted, misogynist, foul mouth womanizer was just that. "An image."

And it worked. It connected with the lowest denominator in American society and it worked.
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People were attracted to Trump in spite of the fact that he is a bore. He represented a change from the system that they think has screwed them over. He reached out to minorities and offered to promote jobs, safe communities, and good schools. A lot of Hispanics don't want Mexico coming to the US. They don't want Mexico dumping criminals in their communities, and Trump appealed to them.

What were these people supposed to do? Wait for a champion who speaks well of women?

That establishment politicians, the media, and corporate leaders all hated Trump just added to his credibility.

It was his means to an end. It got him the job. For that, I call him a winner. Those who fell for the facade, we'll, you can't really blame Trump for their gullibility. You can only applaud him for taking advantage of it.

I am looking forward to Mr. Trump to keep on winning and do great things for our nation now that he doesn't have to act that way anymore to appease the malcontents.

I am hoping he will do GREAT! We should all wish him success as his success is our success. All of us. A rising tide raises all boats.

Thinking positive! Time will tell.
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That's the spirit!
 
katzgar said:
suggesting I liked Billy Bob is dishonest. play all the games you wish. trump is still a sleaze bag.
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Sorry, you seemed to fit the profile of a BJ supporter. Your posts are full of insults for conservatives and short on substance.
 
The Dems banked too much on Trump being a horrible person, but we shouldn't act like the attacks against him didn't mainly come from the words he said.
 
If he's the master he says he is, he just created an enormous opportunity.

Good storytelling often involves leading things one way for a while, so that when you change it up, you have a long distance to capitalize on.
This could be the dramatic change we love to see in our protagonist, the "growth", it could be the ham handed "twist", or the gravity of the position and his heartfelt emotion towards being supported by that many American, for reasons he agrees with.

If he is able to turn all that around and both get things done, while being a likable "every guy", it will be just as big of an upset as his election win. If I have to hope for something, there it is. I use to maintain this would be how it is, I didn't think he'd win but I didn't think he was anything like the dems demonized him. But it was HARD to find any evidence of that in the run up to the election wasn't it?
 
LowDown said:
Anti-immigrant, racist, misogynistic? None of that is true.



The media created a straw man to stand for Trump.

Because he wanted to get control of illegal immigration, keep terrorists out of the country, and because he wanted to keep criminals from being dumped in our country by Mexico, and because he said exactly what liberals always say, that an Hispanic judge would favor his own ethnic group (or else what is the whole point of diversity in the judiciary?), he was deemed anti-immigrant and racist.

Because he was crude and rude to women who where crude and rude to him, and because of some locker room talk from many years ago, he was deemed misogynistic.

But gays, women, and minorities are on his list of people he's seeking for White House staff, and by all accounts in real life he's nice to everyone.
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It matters little how personable he is to underlings. Objectively, he has promised to roll back rights for GLBT persons, outlaw abortion and gut government offices that provide environmental protections and education. If you think those things are acts of kindness to women and minorities, you're crazy.

Love is an action, not empty words. The same applies to hate. So, it's not whether he snubs people to their faces but whether he can commodify them en mass and justify their suffering to achieve a ridiculous, fascist kleptocracy. On that level, the Hitler comparisons are completely justified.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Godwin's law
Godwin's Law (or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1"—​ that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.
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Except that Godwin himself, has stated, comparing Trump and his actions to Hitler is not relevant to Godwin's law. Just saying...
 
Velvet Elvis said:
Honestly, I can't think of an instance that supports your claim. She inspired plenty of neo-socialists, drooling at the notion of bleeding the rich even more. She was very enthusiastic when she deflected against questions regarding her scandals, in the debates. If anything, that cardboard cutout they propped up next to her in the primaries lacked enthusiasm and inspiration (not Sanders...the other so-and-so).

Every single person I know who voted against her gave their reasoning as not voting for a crook or a career politician. Not because of a lack of anything (except scruples).
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It baffles the intelligent mind how those supporting her can so gregariously refuse to see this....maybe IF she had been elected and subsequently they got squashed into messy pieces as though a tractor trailer hit them at 70mph on the freeway type of obvious?

Probably not....they'd blame the gasoline....
 
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