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I was in the NYC rally. Is a revolution possible?

late said:
"According to a July Wall Street Journal/ABC poll, Americans over 35 were four points more likely to say the government is doing too much than to say it is doing too little. Millennials, meanwhile, by a margin of 23 points, think it’s doing too little. In 2011, Pew found that while the oldest Americans supported repealing health-care reform by 29 percentage points, Millennials favored expanding it by 17 points. They were also 25 points more likely than those 65 and older to approve of Occupy Wall Street and 36 points more favorable toward socialism, which they actually preferred to capitalism, 49 percent to 46 percent. As the Pew report put it, “Millennials, at least so far, hold ‘baked in’ support for a more activist government.”

America Is Becoming More Liberal - The Atlantic
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You should stop linking to that rag. I'm not reading it. I do however agree somewhat with what you quoted. I would like it to break it down more though since generations are too long to be all of like mind. In fact, the beginning and the end of generations are always different. Which is of course understandable since they grew up in an entirely different time with likely parents of a different generation.
 
Kurmugeon said:
Did ever say he wasn't voted into power? Read the posts you're responding to!

The Nazi being voted into power did not change the facts that they were national socialist, nor change the fact that they murdered millions of their own citizens!

Always, the massive murder of a countries own citizens is done by Leftist Governments.

There have been right wing Governments who have murdered small numbers of targeted enemies, but the mass murder always comes from the Lefties.
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:lol:

Its some sort of fatal character flaw in the mindset of those who believe in leftist ideals, they see the ends as justifying any and all means.
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So Franco never existed,eh?

Give us a frickin' break here.

:lol:
 
Velvet Elvis said:
For real estate...not idealism.
If you'd know your history, the Germans and Russians were actually allied at the beginning of the war.
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I know all about that,I'm 73 years old.I started learning history a long time ago.

If you'll read a little history you'll learn that Germany and the Soviet Union were not friends at the end of the war.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

:lol:
 
Would like to see a post something on the order this:

[Picture of anti-Trump riots burning flags and destroying property]
This is how liberals / progressives protests.

[Picture of the national election map, mostly red]
This is how conservatives protest.

I think it'd be a nice distinction to draw attention to.
(Unfortunately I'm at the office and can't access those images right now)
 
DamnYankee said:
Leftists are just going insane on FB and Twitter, :lamo. Poor things. :lol:
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It's not an easy thing to deal with when your entire world view, your ideology, your agenda, are all repudiated.

Agreed. Poor things.
 
JoseRia said:
I was part of the anti-trump rally that started in Union Square last night and ended up at Trump Tower. I saw terror, I saw disbelief and I saw a lot of anger out there. I wanted to share what I saw with you guys and ask whether you think a people driven revolution is something feasible in a country like the U.S.

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Go for it.


The left has impressionable college students who can't survive without a safe space, and thugs who think turning a gun sideways to shoot without using the sights is cool.

The right has veterans, hunters, CWPers, oil-rig workers, lumberjacks, factory laborers and Texans.


Should be entertaining, for a short while...

:popcorn2:
 
shrubnose said:
If you'll read a little history you'll learn that Germany and the Soviet Union were not friends at the end of the war.
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No! Really? You mean that whole "Invade the Soviet Union, and push all the way to Stalingrad just to have the Russians march back to Berlin and leave a path of destruction" was just two countries playing with each other??? Oh, wow. I would have never guessed.
 
Ahlevah said:
Is a revolution feasible in the U.S.? By whom? Clint Eastwood's "***** Generation," people who are so afraid of their own shadows and traumatized by an election that they can't go class? Not likely.
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So you believe that those take to the streets are ******s, one minute they are thugs the next they are ******s, must be nice to be able to interchange terms at will.
 
Kurmugeon said:
Sometimes you do...

I seem to remember that the family dog was shot to death by Reno's thugs at Ruby Ridge.

Nobody abuses the power of the state to murder like the Left!

It has been shown over and over and over again to the toll of 10s of Millions of dead innocent citizens!

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Don't forget the kittens, we kill them too. Bella says hi.

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Kurmugeon said:
The Lefties will find it hard to win any future election without the support of the 55% of the electorate which is the Working White Vote.

The Democratic Party has supervised, encouraged, and politically profiteered from 45 years of Anti-White Racial Preference Pandering.

We are organized in our voting now, and the Democratic Party will never again be seen as representing the Working White Voters.

Trump may not turn out to be the solution to all or any of our woes. We may need to seek a 3rd or 4th political party, before we start to see real change and justice.

But the betrayal and abuse of the Democratic Party and the American Political Left has forever driven a wedge between the Democratic Party's Racial Pandering and the Working White People it has abused!

AWVSM!

Never Again!

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there are essentially only two choices, so it swings back and forth. last time, it was a swing to the left, this time it's a very big swing to the right. we'll see how it plays out in the next few elections.
 
The hatred of liberals on the first page of this thread is just as bad as the hatred of Trump at the rallies, so I'm not bothering to read the rest. People are so blind and hypocritical, it is very depressing.
 
Helix said:
there are essentially only two choices, so it swings back and forth. last time, it was a swing to the left, this time it's a very big swing to the right. we'll see how it plays out in the next few elections.
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Here is a bit of food for thought:




So, when was the last time Progressive had a serious policy debate with anyone about the benefits vs. destructive costs of Racial Preferences?

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Velvet Elvis said:
For real estate...not idealism. If you'd know your history, the Germans and Russians were actually allied at the beginning of the war.
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While this is true, the Soviets and the Nazis found middle-ground out of how ultra-conservative and ultra-nationalist they were.

Not because they were "lefties" (they were actually centrists).
 
late said:
Hitler was a Right wingnut. The idea that he isn't is farcical.

"The key element here is what Hitler did, believed and tried to create. Nazism, confused as it was, was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on the racial identity of those in it. Socialism, in contrast, was a class struggle, aiming to build a workers state, whatever race the worker was from."

The article goes on to observe that once Trump, I mean Hitler, got into power, he dropped the rhetoric and got cozy with business.

Extreme goofball territory.

Was Adolf Hitler a Socialist? Debunking a Historical Myth
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Hilarious.

The system that Hitler implemented was still socialism, regardless if Socialism's initial fomentation had to do with "class struggle".
 
late said:
Fascism simply isn't socialism.

You can pretend it is, but that's all you're doing.
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Hitler's system of government was socialistic.
You can pretend it wasn't but that's all you're doing.
 
Kurmugeon said:
Here is a bit of food for thought:

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PROOF: Blacks, women, Hispanics voted for “racist, sexist” Trump

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Excon said:
Hitler's system of government was socialistic.
You can pretend it wasn't but that's all you're doing
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I'm not the one faking it.

I linked to a historian, but I can also tell you that's the standard interpretation, assuming you know what an SI is.

As I pointed out, once he got into power, the happy talk ended.
 
JoseRia said:
I was part of the anti-trump rally that started in Union Square last night and ended up at Trump Tower. I saw terror, I saw disbelief and I saw a lot of anger out there. I wanted to share what I saw with you guys and ask whether you think a people driven revolution is something feasible in a country like the U.S.

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No. It's not possible. They'll go home, take a shower and turn on the TV and forget their motivations in no time.
 
Helix said:
no. a backlash in the next election is, though, if these same people can be bothered to show up and vote.
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They can't be bothered. They will be distracted by something new on their Xbox.
 
late said:
I'm not the one faking it.

I linked to a historian, but I can also tell you that's the standard interpretation, assuming you even what an SI is.

As I pointed out, once he got into power, the happy talk ended.
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Not really. At first Hilter went to work doing things like reforming the banking system, education reform, constructing new roads, bridges, dams, canals, port facilities, and repaired public and private buildings. He was also really into environmentalism and the preservation of animal species and passed Das Reichsjagdgesetz and Reichsnaturschutzgesetz towards those ends. Hitler next moved to ban experimentation on animals in 1933 as part of his plan to protect animal life. He also was into the idea that no one should be left freezing and starving and had his people go around picking up charity from everyone to make sure everyone shared the same living standards.
 
Henrin said:
Not really. At first Hilter went to work doing things like reforming the banking system, education reform, constructing new roads, bridges, dams, canals, port facilities, and repaired public and private buildings. He was also really into environmentalism and the preservation of animal species and passed Das Reichsjagdgesetz and Reichsnaturschutzgesetz towards those ends. Hitler next moved to ban experimentation on animals in 1933 as part of his plan to protect animal life. He also was into the idea that no one should be left freezing and starving and had his people go around picking up charity from everyone to make sure everyone shared the same living standards.
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Republicans did most of that sort of thing, before 1968. You aren't making your case, not that you can.

Of course there was a transition, while he consolidated power.

If you have an interest in that era, this isn't history, but it is a surprisingly good work of historical fiction:

https://www.amazon.com/Garden-Beasts-Terror-American-Hitlers/dp/030740885X
 
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