I can't open downloads on my tablet, which is what I'm stuck with until my laptop is fixed. I have the download there, but the laptop developed a major problem that I'm in the process of working out.
You don't have to. Didn't you ridicule people earlier for not reading the voter guide they got in the mail for free? Well go get it! The full text is in there. By the way, shouldn't you already be aware of what the full text actually says? I mean...you ridiculed others for not reading it, surely that means you read it yourself doesn't it?
I cut and pasted the full text of the bill for your convenience earlier, minus the parts that deal with minors and the boilerplate sections (purpose and intent, liberal construction statement, etc.). Here it is again if you want to dissect it:
SEC. 32. (a) The following provisions are hereby enacted to enhance public safety, improve rehabilitation, and avoid the release of prisoners by federal court order, notwithstanding anything in this article or any other provision of law:
(1) Parole consideration: Any person convicted of a non-violent felony offense and sentenced to state prison shall be eligible for parole consideration after completing the full term for his or her primary offense.
(A) For purposes ofthis section only, the full term for the primary offense means the longest term of imprisonment imposed by the court for any offense, excluding the imposition of an enhancement, consecutive sentence, or alternative sentence.
(2) Credit Earning: The Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation shall have authority to award credits earned for good behavior and approved rehabilitative or educational achievements.
(b) The Department ofCorrections and Rehabilitation shall adopt regulations in furtherance of these provisions, and the Secretary of the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation shall certify that these regulations protect and enhance public safety.
" However, opponents correctly note that the initiative does not define which “nonviolent” crimes are eligible, and state law treats many seemingly violent crimes as “nonviolent.” Therefore, unless amended, Proposition 57, if approved, could provide early release to inmates whose crimes are not designated as “violent” under state law but whose criminality involved actions that would commonly be regarded as violent.
Right, it doesn't define it, that's for legislators to decide and is far beyond the scope of a ballot initiative.
You were lied to by people claiming this re-defines rape as a non-violent offense. I don't blame you for falling for it. But I do blame you for the hypocrisy of ridiculing people for not reading the voter guide and then coming on this thread and proving that you didn't read it yourself and weren't even aware of what the proposition actually says.
Everyone agrees that the wording of Proposition 57 could potentially allow violent criminals out early, because the writers of the bill purposely left the terms vague pertaining to what qualifies as a violent or nonviolent crime.
Sure, it could potentially allow violent criminals out early if the government decides to redefine rape, murder, etc. as non-violent offenses. But this bill does not do that and there is no evidence that anyone plans on doing that. You were simply lied to.
30,000 inmates are set to be released early due to prop 57
This is another lie. This proposition does not release a single inmate. Instead, it makes them eligible for parole. If they don't deserve to get out then the parole board will not let them out.
The good behavior credit clause will require new regulations by the department of corrections, which this bill gives them the authority to do. So that also won't cause anyone to be released.
You would have to be completely ignorant of crime in this state to think that crime numbers will not go up after this occurs, and its not going to be petty crime. These men have been doing hard time in State Prisons like Pelican Bay and San Quentin, which are known as the toughest prisons in the US. Only a naive moron would assume that violent crime isn't going to increase after this occurs.
You should have used that argument instead of relying on lies. There are legitimate arguments against this proposition and now you're starting to touch on them. But arguing that this proposition releases rapists is not a legitimate argument; it's a bold-faced lie.
You dodged my question to you about prop 47. Answer please; what have been the results of prop 47???
I have no interest in discussing proposition 47.
