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Will Obama pardon Clinton if she wins the election?

DamnYankee said:
Yep. Some of the best information comes from anonymous sources and there's no reason to believe it isn't true. Time will tell, but I would put money on the chance what is being reported is in fact accurate.
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That can't be true.

Deep Throat never existed and that whole Watergate thing was all made up, right?

How long did it take to find out who he was?
 
Praxas said:
You are the one claiming you have congressional records on it, prove it.
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And if you think about real hard you will see your reading deficiency as well as making silly comments.
 
Mason66 said:
8 years has passed. Do you think she was just sitting around doing nothing?

We have learned her political machine collects dirt on everybody. Why would you think Obama would be any different.

They have never liked each other.
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Your conspiracy is just that.....a conspiracy theory. You guys just keep looking foolish making those comments. Just like the truthers who thought Bush was behind 9/11, that's how foolish you are looking.
 
AlbqOwl said:
And if you think about real hard you will see your reading deficiency as well as making silly comments.
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Cool story bro, your comments still look idiotic, but I wouldn't expect any less from a RW conspiracy theorist.
 
Praxas said:
Your conspiracy is just that.....a conspiracy theory. You guys just keep looking foolish making those comments. Just like the truthers who thought Bush was behind 9/11, that's how foolish you are looking.
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If you keep your eyes closed long enough, you will eventually fall asleep.
 
Mason66 said:
If you keep your eyes closed long enough, you will eventually fall asleep.
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And if you keep being paranoid long enough, you will eventually think everyone is out to get you when they aren't. Have fun with your crazy conspiracy theories, I'll file them with the birthers and truthers. :lamo
 
tres borrachos said:
Yeah, but I think Obama is a party man too. A serious one. Ford tainted his legacy by pardoning Nixon out of the gate. That and his falls were probably the things he was most remembered for.

I think Maggie's question is a really good one. We of course don't know the answer but I share her curiosity.
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i didn't/don't see it that way

other than being a klutzy, not-that-bright nice guy married to a first lady who had to enter rehab, the pardon of nixon is the action for which ford will be remembered
and while it was not a consensus opinion, it was acknowledged by many that the pardon allowed the nation to move on, to re-boot, to use a term that had no meaning in that day

if Obama sells his Christmas gift pardon to hillary and bill the same way, that will pre-empt the already promised investigations by a republican dominated congress, thereby giving the HRC administration, and our nation, an opportunity to start fresh and drive forward rather than by looking into the rearview mirror
 
justabubba said:
i didn't/don't see it that way

other than being a klutzy, not-that-bright nice guy married to a first lady who had to enter rehab, the pardon of nixon is the action for which ford will be remembered
and while it was not a consensus opinion, it was acknowledged by many that the pardon allowed the nation to move on, to re-boot, to use a term that had no meaning in that day

if Obama sells his Christmas gift pardon to hillary and bill the same way, that will pre-empt the already promised investigations by a republican dominated congress, thereby giving the HRC administration, and our nation, an opportunity to start fresh and drive forward rather than by looking into the rearview mirror
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Nixon's pardon was a back room deal to get him to step down. It is the only time in American history that a person has been pardoned BEFORE criminal charges were laid. Because of the mass intrusion, and breadth of Nixon's crimes, and the fact Watergate had dragged on for three years, it was agreed getting him of the front pages would allow the nation to heal.

As I look now it appears to have been a massive failure

No one should judge Ford on that basis. The man was a patsy, a party gopher, who they felt would make a good 'caretaker'. No one expected him to actually run for the job. Even his peers knew he was dim.
 
MaggieD said:
And even if she doesn't? He most certainly could. Would it be in the best interest of the country? Would it shake our legal foundation to its core?

Your thoughts.
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Hi Maggie - if she's elected, can't she legally, if not wise politically, pardon herself?

President Obama pardoning Clinton would be worse that President Clinton pardoning Mark Rich.

Actually, I'm expecting Obama to pardon a whole pile of sleaze as he walks out the door.
 
Praxas said:
Will you leave the board if nothing is found?
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What do you mean, if? I thought it was all made up by Brett? LMAO

Will you leave when the FBI confirms the investigation into the Clinton Foundation? Because you know they are investigating Globalist Granny's crime syndicate.

ROTFLMAO
 
CanadaJohn said:
Hi Maggie - if she's elected, can't she legally, if not wise politically, pardon herself?

President Obama pardoning Clinton would be worse that President Clinton pardoning Mark Rich.

Actually, I'm expecting Obama to pardon a whole pile of sleaze as he walks out the door.
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He already did.

They will walk out of prison in December.
 
DamnYankee said:
What do you mean, if? I thought it was all made up by Brett? LMAO

Will you leave when the FBI confirms the investigation into the Clinton Foundation? Because you know they are investigating Globalist Granny's crime syndicate.

ROTFLMAO
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I'll make this deal, if no charges are filed in the next month on the Clinton foundation, you leave the board never to return and if there are charges filed I will leave the board never to return. Deal?
 
A pardon for Hillary might be worth it if she retires from the public stage and remains in obscurity the rest of her days.
Of course that would also mean that she isn't elected POTUS.

Should she be elected POTUS, and the criminal charges are filed, well, that'd qualify as a full blown constitution crisis, wouldn't it? Kain would have to take over for her.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Hi Maggie - if she's elected, can't she legally, if not wise politically, pardon herself?

President Obama pardoning Clinton would be worse that President Clinton pardoning Mark Rich.

Actually, I'm expecting Obama to pardon a whole pile of sleaze as he walks out the door.
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Whomever he pardons, it will be good to see him go. Just a pity that he would have the kind of successor he will have.
 
Praxas said:
I'll make this deal, if no charges are filed in the next month on the Clinton foundation, you leave the board never to return and if there are charges filed I will leave the board never to return. Deal?
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I'm not that harsh. When the FBI confirms they are investigating the Clinton Foundation, which you seem to deny, you leave for one month. If they are not investigating the Clinton Foundation, then I'll leave for one month.

The time frame for all this is indefinite. Deal?
 
DamnYankee said:
I'm not that harsh. When the FBI confirms they are investigating the Clinton Foundation, which you seem to deny, you leave for one month. If they are not investigating the Clinton Foundation, then I'll leave for one month.

The time frame for all this is indefinite. Deal?
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I'll do charges, not investigation. FBI investigates all the time and it's only charges that will really matter. I only claim that charges will not come of this. Is that a deal?
 
MaggieD said:
And even if she doesn't? He most certainly could. Would it be in the best interest of the country? Would it shake our legal foundation to its core?

Your thoughts.
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Public trust in our government is down to 19% that it would just about always or most of the time to do what is right.

Trust in Government | Gallup Historical Trends

A pardon by Obama would probably drive that trust in our own government even lower if that is possible. Americans once trusted their own government, During Eisenhower and JFK, that trust was around 75%. After Watergate and Nixon's resignation, public trust was at 36%, almost double what it is today. During Reagan public trust jumped back into the 40's only to drop again into the 20's and 30's. Only in November of 2001 did public trust in their own government crawl back over 50% and that didn't last long. But it was at 24% when Bush the second left office and today as I stated down to 19%.

A pardon, yep that would indeed install a lot of trust into a government that most Americans deem is corrupt.
 
Praxas said:
I'll do charges, not investigation. FBI investigates all the time and it's only charges that will really matter. I only claim that charges will not come of this. Is that a deal?
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Charges being filed never entered into any this, I was talking about an investigation which you seem to think Brett made it all up. Gov't being gov't its highly unlikely, if charges are filed, they possibly wouldn't come for months. I won't agree with your scenario, it's stacked against me.

My last offer is still on the table. Take or leave it.
 
StarWarsBob said:
Pardon her for what?
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Pardoning her for her use of the email server, any possible ramifications of doing same, and Clinton Foundation improprieties that may be discovered. Why, you got more?
 
CanadaJohn said:
Hi Maggie - if she's elected, can't she legally, if not wise politically, pardon herself?

President Obama pardoning Clinton would be worse that President Clinton pardoning Mark Rich.

Actually, I'm expecting Obama to pardon a whole pile of sleaze as he walks out the door.
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I Googled around a bit, and it would seem you may be right. It's never been done and never tested...so...?
 
MaggieD said:
And even if she doesn't? He most certainly could. Would it be in the best interest of the country? Would it shake our legal foundation to its core?

Your thoughts.
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He has the authority to pardon her, and he could do it even before she had been convicted of any crime. But the ultimate remedy still would remain--impeachment. Richard Nixon won in a landslide in 1972, and yet he was brought down. By the time he had served half his term he was headed for certain impeachment because of the Watergate scandal, and to avoid that he resigned.
 
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