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Obama's Legacy?

He will always be remembered as the first black president of the United States - and not much more.

Yup, this---------^

He won't be remembered as a bad President, and he won't be remembered as a good President. He'll be remembered as the first black President, and not much beyond that.
 
The last President with any ability to head off the Disintegration of the global economy, but who failed to see it coming.

The last President with any ability to head off the The Rebellion (working name, it will change), but who failed to see it coming.

THe President who claimed to be reforming the Healthcare system but who did not have enough understanding of the problem, so he made it worse.

The guy who had the ability to head off Clinton Corp knowing how corrupt it was and he also knew of the incompetence of Hillary, but did not, making him the person most responsible for the failed (or is it "the disastrous"?) Clinton Presidency.

The President who squandered what little good that could have come out of the disastrous $5 TRILLION invasion of Iraq military adventure.

The President who wasted 8 years on a clearly not going to work policy to deal with N Koreans Nukes, consequences of which are not known but which are likely to suck.

The President who failed to act in Syria, and thus is partly responsible for the Muslim hordes which invaded a weak Europe, bringing Europe to its knees, and thus speeding up the rise of the China/Russia/Iran cooperative because they were not able to act as a opposition to that rise, leaving an also very weak USA as the only speedbump, which ended up to not be all that much due to social breakdown and massive indebtedness.


truth doesnt matter much to you does it
 
With the revelations from WikiLeaks, I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be the case.



Although, I have to admit, this list above is thorough and well thought out.

In actuality, I think, it takes around 20 years before any sort of inkling as to how history will view his presidency.



only to the hiding in a bunker crowd
 
Geez, the race card already. :yawn:

I pay attention.

Since Obama won, there has been an increase in the number of hate groups, there has been an increase in (fundamentally) racist voter suppression efforts. Hell, the Supreme Court said the restrictions in the VRA were no longer needed. And the very next day North Carolina proved they were craven liars. Trump started doing the groundwork for his presidential campaign several years ago with the clearly racist birther movement. Overt racists love him because he has been blowing sweet nothings in their ears for years. Hell, his campaign is still doing it.

We have centuries of racist history in this country, and it ain't anywhere near over.

One of my history profs at the U of Maine did her PHD on slavery and racism. She was from Virginia, and went to the U of V. She liked to say she was teaching in Maine because they didn't want to be reminded of the realities of their past.
 
How will Obama be viewed as president 100 years from now?

A good legacy. He has a string of accomplishments to show for his Presidency, despite almost total obstruction by Congress, and an historically terrible economic disaster created by the prior administration, which his policies and programs pulled us out of. His legacy includes healthcare reform, which, although unsuccessful in the end (I believe), it was historical and a good accomplishment that no other President had been able to do before, or even tried to do before.

Yeah, he did an excellent job under very difficult circumstances. So did Bill Clinton, despite his personal troubles. A balanced budget with a surplus, a good economic time in the country, reform of welfare, etc.

The legacy of the two Bushes will not be good. The legacy of Reagan is questionable, since he is the one who brought in the first huge deficit (and didn't care about the deficit), and the one who heralded in what became the illegal immigration problem (he granted outright amnesty which resulted in a flood of illegals pouring into the country after that).

Ford was lackluster. Nixon - bad. LBJ - the Civil Rights Act, but there's the Vietnam problem he had.
 
How will Obama be viewed as president 100 years from now?

I would think the answer depends on the where the US is in 100 years.

As we have seen, an active rewrite of modern history has been underway for at least 20+ years.

Educators teach that the Reagan years were nothing more than scandal and corruption to benefit the rich, and the Clinton years were some of best in US History.

If socialist progressivism is firmly in control in 100 years, Obama will be revered and viewed in the same light as George Washington, or Abraham Lincoln.
 
I would think the answer depends on the where the US is in 100 years.

As we have seen, an active rewrite of modern history has been underway for at least 20+ years.

Educators teach that the Reagan years were nothing more than scandal and corruption to benefit the rich, and the Clinton years were some of best in US History.

If socialist progressivism is firmly in control in 100 years, Obama will be revered and viewed in the same light as George Washington, or Abraham Lincoln.

"Educators teach that the Reagan years were nothing more than scandal and corruption to benefit the rich"

When Reagan was president, I called it the 1,001 Screwups of Ronald Reagan. There were tons of scandals, and plenty of corruption.

None of which is why I replied..

You said educators. Secondary history teachers don't usually go there. It would not be surprising if a history prof went there, but then real history tends to be quite different from the various mythologies you see outside academia.
 
"Educators teach that the Reagan years were nothing more than scandal and corruption to benefit the rich"

When Reagan was president, I called it the 1,001 Screwups of Ronald Reagan. There were tons of scandals, and plenty of corruption.

None of which is why I replied..

You said educators. Secondary history teachers don't usually go there. It would not be surprising if a history prof went there, but then real history tends to be quite different from the various mythologies you see outside academia.

Although unnecessary to submit evidence my comments are based in fact, I appreciate you providing some to verify it.

As a result, I rest my case.
 
Although unnecessary to submit evidence my comments are based in fact, I appreciate you providing some to verify it.

As a result, I rest my case.

IOW, your real complaint is that you don't like real history.

Got it.
 
IOW, your real complaint is that you don't like real history.

Got it.

It should be apparent to you I do like real history. The progressive version of history is only attractive to those who depend on the rewrite of it.
 
How will Obama be viewed as president 100 years from now?

First African-American president
Obamacare, either success or failure yet to be determined
Promoter of racial tension
Winner of Nobel Peace Prize
 
He won't be remembered, except possibly as the first black president.

I think you are right.

Nobody today is talking about who was President in 1916.
 
How will Obama be viewed as president 100 years from now?

Favorably. He's about to leave office with a 60% approval rating and that's with most people seemingly unaware that his administration's impact on virtually every area of public policy has been arguably the most consequential of any president in the last 50 years.
 
First African-American president
Obamacare, either success or failure yet to be determined
Promoter of racial tension
Winner of Nobel Peace Prize



promoter of racial tension? bull pucky
 
more grade school

Looking like an elitist who puts themselves above the need to make cases for their arguments does not work like it used to.

IT'S MORNING IN AMERICA!

:coffeepap
 
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