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Fletch said:
Every attempt to liken Trump with Hitler is rooted in ignorance and paranoia. I get you are frightened, but you are allowing your emotionalism to trump your reason
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Libs have no reason... like short people... it's why they're Libs in the first place.
 
haymarket said:
This morning the Washington Post/ABC News poll has Trump four points behind.

It is said that all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

We should be afraid. Very afraid.
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I guess that's why you're floating the Nazi reference.

So when Hillary's deceit, corruption, manipulation, and fraud are confirmed, nobody should raise an eyebrow.

When Hillary wants to remove citizen control over government by increasing the power of government agencies, that is not a concern.

When Hillary wants to dilute the United States into a global pool of nations where lower costs of living in those countries will continue the mass exodus of jobs for everyday Americans, people should not be concerned.

Nope, none of that is an issue, instead, it's Trump is a Nazi.

It's hard to imagine a more insipid and vacuous claim.
 
ocean515 said:
I guess that's why you're floating the Nazi reference.

So when Hillary's deceit, corruption, manipulation, and fraud are confirmed, nobody should raise an eyebrow.

When Hillary wants to remove citizen control over government by increasing the power of government agencies, that is not a concern.

When Hillary wants to dilute the United States into a global pool of nations where lower costs of living in those countries will continue the mass exodus of jobs for everyday Americans, people should not be concerned.

Nope, none of that is an issue, instead, it's Trump is a Nazi.

It's hard to imagine a more insipid and vacuous claim.
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You cant have fascism without first embracing an all-powerful state apparatus. If it happens here, it will happen because liberals laid the ground work
 
Fletch said:
Every attempt to liken Trump with Hitler is rooted in ignorance and paranoia. I get you are frightened, but you are allowing your emotionalism to trump your reason
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I provided you with analysis and accurate comparisons. The parallels are there to see.

Look - I get it that large numbers of white working class people have legitimate and real and very much practical concerns about the system, the direction of the country, the health of our economy and most of all - their own position in it. They are scared for themselves and for their children and grand children. The whole point of the American Dream was to not only make a better country for ourselves - but for our kids to inherit. And because of lots of things - globalism - corporatism - corruption - benefits not being shared across the board but only at the top - people are angry.

But to turn to a fraud like Trump is not the answer. The man is a billionaire who has never shown any concern for average people in his life until recently. he can no more save working people in this country that the fox can save the henhouse.

I also freely admit that some of the Trump backers are indeed the basket of deplorable. People who are racists or sexists or xenophobes or just plain haters . I don't know if its half of the Trump support or ten precent of the Trump support but it is there just the same and is the straw which seems to stir the drink.

We have to fact this. The Republican Party needs an enema and perhaps Trump is that enema. But after we get rid of the tea party know nothings and the right libertarians who tried to infect and hijack the GOP by getting rid of Trump - who is going to give the nation another enema to get rid of the Trump infection in the larger nation?
 
Fletch said:
You cant have fascism without first embracing an all-powerful state apparatus. If it happens here, it will happen because liberals laid the ground work
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Get real - Dems and Republicans have both facilitated the growth of the state. Republicans act like they are virgins working nightly in the whorehouse claiming they are pure. Can that crap.
 
ocean515 said:
I guess that's why you're floating the Nazi reference.
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No. I am bringing this up because it is real and it is there and it should scare the hell out of every thinking American.

The sad reality is that right wingers feel no threat from a right wing populist with strong tendencies towards racism and sexism and xenophobia and authoritarian inclination since they assume that their whiteness will protect them from his excesses and his wrath and negative policies will befall The Others and not them. Yes- the Muslims will suffer .... yes the Hispanics will suffer ..... yes the Blacks will suffer ..... and yes - there will be new laws such as the Trump endorsed stop and frisk which denies constitutional protections. But right wingers believe their whiteness and their standing in society will shield them and protect them and such policies will not touch them.

So you and they are willing to roll those dice figuring that the crapstorm hits others and not them. Its all a matter of whose ox is going gored and you folks on the right see it as somebody else so you are more than willing to take a chance on an ignorant inexperienced egomaniac with demonstrated authoritarian tendencies and who practices sexism and racism and xenophobia.
 
reinoe said:
I see you're back to beating that Trump=Hitler dead horse.
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Then why can't you or anyone else supply facts why the comparison is not an apt one?

The truth is that you and others on the right embrace Trump and you hate it that his threat to the body politic has been exposed and IT COMES FROM THE RIGHT. And that damages you and your brand and your position on the spectrum that fascism will come from you. But you deny it.

The sad reality is that right wingers feel no threat from a right wing populist with strong tendencies towards racism and sexism and xenophobia and authoritarian inclination since they assume that their whiteness will protect them from his excesses and his wrath and negative policies will befall The Others and not them. Yes- the Muslims will suffer .... yes the Hispanics will suffer ..... yes the Blacks will suffer ..... and yes - there will be new laws such as the Trump endorsed stop and frisk which denies constitutional protections. But right wingers believe their whiteness and their standing in society will shield them and protect them and such policies will not touch them.

So you and they are willing to roll those dice figuring that the crapstorm hits others and not them. Its all a matter of whose ox is going gored and you folks on the right see it as somebody else so you are more than willing to take a chance on an ignorant inexperienced egomaniac with demonstrated authoritarian tendencies and who practices sexism and racism and xenophobia.
 
haymarket said:
No. I am bringing this up because it is real and it is there and it should scare the hell out of every thinking American.

The sad reality is that right wingers feel no threat from a right wing populist with strong tendencies towards racism and sexism and xenophobia and authoritarian inclination since they assume that their whiteness will protect them from his excesses and his wrath and negative policies will befall The Others and not them. Yes- the Muslims will suffer .... yes the Hispanics will suffer ..... yes the Blacks will suffer ..... and yes - there will be new laws such as the Trump endorsed stop and frisk which denies constitutional protections. But right wingers believe their whiteness and their standing in society will shield them and protect them and such policies will not touch them.

So you and they are willing to roll those dice figuring that the crapstorm hits others and not them. Its all a matter of whose ox is going gored and you folks on the right see it as somebody else so you are more than willing to take a chance on an ignorant inexperienced egomaniac with demonstrated authoritarian tendencies and who practices sexism and racism and xenophobia.
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So, on one hand, we have confirmation of a corrupt manipulating globalist sell out, who wants to dilute the US economy and merge with other globalists eager to profit from the mixture.

And on the other, we have someone willing to put his personal fortune, safety, and family into the eye of the storm to bring focus and effort on building opportunity for all US Citizens.

I'd take up those dice, as they are loaded in my favor, and everyone else concerned with liberty and the economic future of the United States .
 
haymarket said:
Then why can't you or anyone else supply facts why the comparison is not an apt one?

The truth is that you and others on the right embrace Trump and you hate it that his threat to the body politic has been exposed and IT COMES FROM THE RIGHT. And that damages you and your brand and your position on the spectrum that fascism will come from you. But you deny it.

The sad reality is that right wingers feel no threat from a right wing populist with strong tendencies towards racism and sexism and xenophobia and authoritarian inclination since they assume that their whiteness will protect them from his excesses and his wrath and negative policies will befall The Others and not them. Yes- the Muslims will suffer .... yes the Hispanics will suffer ..... yes the Blacks will suffer ..... and yes - there will be new laws such as the Trump endorsed stop and frisk which denies constitutional protections. But right wingers believe their whiteness and their standing in society will shield them and protect them and such policies will not touch them.

So you and they are willing to roll those dice figuring that the crapstorm hits others and not them. Its all a matter of whose ox is going gored and you folks on the right see it as somebody else so you are more than willing to take a chance on an ignorant inexperienced egomaniac with demonstrated authoritarian tendencies and who practices sexism and racism and xenophobia.
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Hitler ate sugar and so does Hillary Clinton. Therefore Hillary Clinton is like Hitler. Need I go on? Any nebulous connection to Hitler can be made. Hitler was a vegetarian and therefor anyone who is vegetarian is like Hitler. Hitler liked dogs and therefor anyone who likes dogs is like Hitler.
 
Militant_Vegan_ said:
they do in the fact they they find hatred in "the other" as in another race. Mexicans Muslims. You'd have to be tone deaf not to notice.
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Hitler was a progressive militant vegetarian who breathed oxygen. Therefor you're a lot like Hitler. Far more than Trump could ever be.
 
LOL. The Trump group is coming off the hinges today
 
ocean515 said:
So, on one hand, we have confirmation of a corrupt manipulating globalist sell out, who wants to dilute the US economy and merge with other globalists eager to profit from the mixture.

And on the other, we have someone willing to put his personal fortune, safety, and family into the eye of the storm to bring focus and effort on building opportunity for all US Citizens.

I'd take up those dice, as they are loaded in my favor, and everyone else concerned with liberty and the economic future of the United States .
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Of course the dice are loaded in your favor as a middle class white American male who has little to fear from the effects of Trumps authoritariansm... his sexism... his racism and his xenophobia. And you want to make sure it stays that way.

Freedom.... liberty ..... just meaningless words for many who will fall victim to his hate and his vitriol. But for you - they are sacred and you expect to keep them as you can be protected by your race and your status.
 
haymarket said:
Of course the dice are loaded in your favor as a middle class white American male who has little to fear from the effects of Trumps authoritariansm... his sexism... his racism and his xenophobia. And you want to make sure it stays that way.

Freedom.... liberty ..... just meaningless words for many who will fall victim to his hate and his vitriol. But for you - they are sacred and you expect to keep them as you can be protected by your race and your status.
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look at trump's base. scared old crotchety white guys.
 
reinoe said:
Hitler ate sugar and so does Hillary Clinton. Therefore Hillary Clinton is like Hitler. Need I go on? Any nebulous connection to Hitler can be made. Hitler was a vegetarian and therefor anyone who is vegetarian is like Hitler. Hitler liked dogs and therefor anyone who likes dogs is like Hitler.
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Except the only one using those incredibly stupid factors of comparison was you.
 
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Militant_Vegan_ said:
look at trump's base. scared old crotchety white guys.
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There are young also. And many of them have legitimate concerns about globalism and corporatism and corruption and a loss of a place in society for themselves and people like themselves. We should not dismiss that.

But to put their hope in Trump. That is simply ridiculous as he is a mad billionaire who has never cared a damn about people like that and is only using them as toilet paper and will soon dispose of them once they are no longer useful to his blind ambitions of power. After all, he himself has told us that only HE can solve our problems. Not he and the rest of the government. Not he and the American people. But only HE as the all powerful strong man.
 
haymarket said:
Except the only one using those incredible stupid factors of comparison was you.
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Any word on when Trump will advocate a "FINAL SOLUTION" to non-white people?
 
reinoe said:
Any word on when Trump will advocate a "FINAL SOLUTION" to non-white people?
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How long did it take Hitler to do that? He became Chancellor in January of 1933 and it is believed the actual Final Solution as a policy with implementation did not take place until eight or nine years later.

Regardless, the Final Solution was not Nazism - but only one of the more dramatic components of its policies. It would NOT have to be present in the USA or another nation turning to authoritarianism for the comparison to be accurate.
 
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haymarket said:
Except the only one using those incredibly stupid factors of comparison was you.
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See when folks like yourself make the comparison to Hitler, it gives people license to commit violence and property crime towards his supporters.
You really need to think hard about what you're saying, before you say it.

The same goes for people who say Hillary = Hitler.
 
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