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Hillary Taking Another Holiday...

Anthony60 said:
Seem you really don't want to debate the subject. That's fine, I've said my piece.
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I don't want to debate what? I asked you about Trump's knowledge of the Constitution. You ignored me and went on about Hillary Clinton. And you say I don't want to debate? Mkay.
 
tres borrachos said:
Just curious, where did Trump develop his expertise on the Constitution? When he was in law school? Practicing law? Making decisions on laws in Congress?

The next debate will be about SCOTUS and immigration, apparently. We will get a glimpse of Trump's vast knowledge of the Constitution then, I gather.
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So will the 10's of millions of Constitutional lawyers watching the debate understand the discussion, or will they wait for the MSM to tell them what was discussed?
 
ocean515 said:
So will the 10's of millions of Constitutional lawyers watching the debate understand the discussion, or will they wait for the MSM to tell them what was discussed?
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They probably already know the Constitution. So you think Trump will pick up tens of millions of votes from Constitutional lawyers who will watch the debate, because he's an expert on the Constitution? I'm curious myself to see what he knows. So far I haven't seen any evidence of knowledge. Too bad it isn't Ted Cruz debating her.
 
tres borrachos said:
They probably already know the Constitution. So you think Trump will pick up tens of millions of votes from Constitutional lawyers who will watch the debate, because he's an expert on the Constitution? I'm curious myself to see what he knows. So far I haven't seen any evidence of knowledge. Too bad it isn't Ted Cruz debating her.
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I think you failed to catch the point.

Other than perhaps a few thousand Constitutional lawyers watching the debate, the 10's of millions of everyday Americans who could be watching won't have anything approaching the knowledge on the Constitution you think is critical in the debate.

Do you think it critical to know specific cases? Are we to demand a President also be a Supreme Court Justice?

Do you think Trump doesn't have a clue about the Constitution?
 
ocean515 said:
I think you failed to catch the point.

Other than perhaps a few thousand Constitutional lawyers watching the debate, the 10's of millions of everyday Americans who could be watching won't have anything approaching the knowledge on the Constitution you think is critical in the debate.

Do you think it critical to know specific cases? Are we to demand a President also be a Supreme Court Justice?

Do you think Trump doesn't have a clue about the Constitution?
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I asked what Trump knows about the Constitution, and how he knows about it. It wasn't a difficult question, and shockingly, it can be answered without mentioning the Clintons.

As for the rest of your questions, I'd like to know what Trump knows. You seem to have the inside scoop. Please tell me. What is his experience with the Constitution, and interpreting it, and applying it. If you don't have the answer, that's okay. But you jumped in the discussion and apparently seem anxious to answer my question.
 
tres borrachos said:
I asked what Trump knows about the Constitution, and how he knows about it. It wasn't a difficult question, and shockingly, it can be answered without mentioning the Clintons.

As for the rest of your questions, I'd like to know what Trump knows. You seem to have the inside scoop. Please tell me. What is his experience with the Constitution, and interpreting it, and applying it. If you don't have the answer, that's okay. But you jumped in the discussion and apparently seem anxious to answer my question.
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Ok. He knows everything about the Constitution. He interprets it every day, and applies it's limitations and freedoms in all he does. Really not sure why you're asking the question. Please show evidence he does not.

I am curious. You do realize it's possible to be an expert on the Constitution without a law school education, practicing law, or even having a license to practice law?

I don't have an inside scoop on Trump. Interesting accusation.
 
ocean515 said:
Ok. He knows everything about the Constitution. He interprets it every day, and applies it's limitations and freedoms in all he does. Really not sure why you're asking the question. Please show evidence he does not.

I am curious. You do realize it's possible to be an expert on the Constitution without a law school education, practicing law, or even having a license to practice law?

I don't have an inside scoop on Trump. Interesting accusation.
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So you don't have any concerns that from all appearances, Trump knows absolutely nothing about the Constitution. Okay, if that works for you. It doesn't work for me. I think it's better to have our top lawmaker know at least as much as my 11th grader.

By the way, I don't have any ability to show evidence that he doesn't know about the Constitution. I can't find any evidence that he does know about it. You can't prove a negative.
 
tres borrachos said:
So you don't have any concerns that from all appearances, Trump knows absolutely nothing about the Constitution. Okay, if that works for you. It doesn't work for me. I think it's better to have our top lawmaker know at least as much as my 11th grader.

By the way, I don't have any ability to show evidence that he doesn't know about the Constitution. I can't find any evidence that he does know about it. You can't prove a negative.
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I'm not so blinded and obsessed to believe Trump knows absolutely nothing about the Constitution. That is a completely irrational statement deserving nothing but rejection.
 
tres borrachos said:
I don't want to debate what? I asked you about Trump's knowledge of the Constitution. You ignored me and went on about Hillary Clinton. And you say I don't want to debate? Mkay.
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You are not responding to any of the issues, dwelling on me putting words in your mouth, which I didn't.
 
Anthony60 said:
You are not responding to any of the issues, dwelling on me putting words in your mouth, which I didn't.
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The issue of you desperately wanting someone with zero understanding of the Constitution to be President? No, I am responding to you.
 
tres borrachos said:
The issue of you desperately wanting someone with zero understanding of the Constitution to be President? No, I am responding to you.
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We are talking about Hillary or Trump now? What's better, someone that doesn't know a lot about it and can have advisors that do, or someone that knows all about it, but will completely ignore it?
 
Anthony60 said:
We are talking about Hillary or Trump now? What's better, someone that doesn't know a lot about it and can have advisors that do, or someone that knows all about it, but will completely ignore it?
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We were talking Trump. I asked you about his depth of knowledge of the Constitution.
 
I know it's probably too much to ask of any Hillary supporter, but y'all should be talking about Hillary's drug holiday.
 
tres borrachos said:
We were talking Trump. I asked you about his depth of knowledge of the Constitution.
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What do you want to know? Maybe he knows a lot about it, maybe not so much. At least he knows it exists.

At least he mentioned it when discussing SCOTUS appointees at the debate. Hillary said nothing about it. Nothing. For a job that requires that you know it forward and backwards. You know why? Because she wants judges that disregard it like she does. But, hey. That's a no-brainer. We know how the left feels about the Constitution. It's in the way. It's old. We don't need it anymore. (Of course, we need it as much as the day it was written, if not more.)
 
tres borrachos said:
We were talking Trump. I asked you about his depth of knowledge of the Constitution.
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And BTW, where did I say Trump was an expert on the Constitution? You replied to me saying (to another poster), about Hillary

"Did you notice that she never mentions the Constitution when talking about SC nominees? If that doesn't bother you, you don't really know enough to speak on the subject. She's counting on people like you."
 
Anthony60 said:
And BTW, where did I say Trump was an expert on the Constitution? You replied to me saying (to another poster), about Hillary

"Did you notice that she never mentions the Constitution when talking about SC nominees? If that doesn't bother you, you don't really know enough to speak on the subject. She's counting on people like you."
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I never said you said Trump was an expert on the Constitution. You are very confused. I asked you what he knows about it? Repeatedly, in fact.
 
tres borrachos said:
I never said you said Trump was an expert on the Constitution. You are very confused. I asked you what he knows about it? Repeatedly, in fact.
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Not confused at all. Now you are mincing words, aren't you? Oh, you asked about "his depth of knowledge"? So, EXCUUUUSEE ME!
 
Anthony60 said:
Not confused at all. Now you are mincing words, aren't you? Oh, you asked about "his depth of knowledge"? So, EXCUUUUSEE ME!
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No, I'm not mincing words. I asked you, as you just admitted, about Trump's depth of Constitutional knowledge. I've asked you a few times, and you never answer.

Look, if you're proud of supporting and defending an ignorant real estate developer who knows less about the Constitution than my high schoolers do, an idiot who for some strange reason has duped the easily duped into supporting him, all power to you. But don't be shocked when people who give a damn about this country challenge the man's ability to lead this great nation. And yes, in spite of what Trump has convinced the paranoid bigots, this country never stopped being great.
 
tres borrachos said:
No, I'm not mincing words. I asked you, as you just admitted, about Trump's depth of Constitutional knowledge. I've asked you a few times, and you never answer.
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You'll have to decide, I don't know what it is.

Look, if you're proud of supporting and defending an ignorant real estate developer who knows less about the Constitution than my high schoolers do, an idiot who for some strange reason has duped the easily duped into supporting him, all power to you. But don't be shocked when people who give a damn about this country challenge the man's ability to lead this great nation. And yes, in spite of what Trump has convinced the paranoid bigots, this country never stopped being great.
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We know the country is great, just not as great as it could be, and that won't happen under Clinton. Obama dragged us down, and Hillary will continue that.

See, we need to get something straight here. Trump isn't running against Harry Truman, or FDR, or someone in possession of any morals at all. That is why I will vote for him. Not because he is so good, or knows what he is doing. Or has beliefs similar to mine. He's just the better choice out of the two, that's all.

There's a chance he will do something good on some front. Maybe by accident, or maybe things just won't get much worse with him in office.

I know what Hillary will do already. Make thinks worse. Guaranteed, no doubt in my mind. The woman should be in jail, yet she's running for President. New email scandals almost everyday. I can't imagine the thought process that leads someone (I know you are not) to vote for her, thank God.

We have choice #15 running against choice #16.
 
Anthony60 said:
You'll have to decide, I don't know what it is.

We know the country is great, just not as great as it could be, and that won't happen under Clinton. Obama dragged us down, and Hillary will continue that.

See, we need to get something straight here. Trump isn't running against Harry Truman, or FDR, or someone in possession of any morals at all. That is why I will vote for him. Not because he is so good, or knows what he is doing. Or has beliefs similar to mine. He's just the better choice out of the two, that's all.

There's a chance he will do something good on some front. Maybe by accident, or maybe things just won't get much worse with him in office.

I know what Hillary will do already. Make thinks worse. Guaranteed, no doubt in my mind. The woman should be in jail, yet she's running for President. New email scandals almost everyday. I can't imagine the thought process that leads someone (I know you are not) to vote for her, thank God.

We have choice #15 running against choice #16.
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Obama didn't actually drag me down, Anthony. On the contrary. My husband got to keep his guns. Friends who had no jobs are gainfully employed. My 401k looks substantially better than it did the day he took office. Our house value skyrocketed since 2009. I don't think he was as bad as everyone thought he would be. And even if he was, Donald Trump isn't the person to transform this country. He would make it worse.
 
tres borrachos said:
Obama didn't actually drag me down, Anthony. On the contrary. My husband got to keep his guns. Friends who had no jobs are gainfully employed. My 401k looks substantially better than it did the day he took office. Our house value skyrocketed since 2009. I don't think he was as bad as everyone thought he would be. And even if he was, Donald Trump isn't the person to transform this country. He would make it worse.
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I hate to break it to you, but the rest of the country has not been as fortunate. I'm sure you know all about the people that have stopped even looking for jobs, the lack of good paying full-time jobs created, etc.. But good for you. I think he has been much worse than I thought, but that's my opinion.

As for Trump, maybe he won't be able to transform the country, I just hope he can stop the bleeding. But what of Hillary? Do you think she will transform the country? Or continue the "fundamental change" that Obama started?
 
Anthony60 said:
I hate to break it to you, but the rest of the country has not been as fortunate. I'm sure you know all about the people that have stopped even looking for jobs, the lack of good paying full-time jobs created, etc.. But good for you. I think he has been much worse than I thought, but that's my opinion.

As for Trump, maybe he won't be able to transform the country, I just hope he can stop the bleeding. But what of Hillary? Do you think she will transform the country? Or continue the "fundamental change" that Obama started?
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I'm sorry the rest of the country can't get ahead.

I don't think Hillary can do anything. I'm not voting for her. Like Trump, she is a terrible person.
 
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