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Which Hell Is Worse?

Jack Hays said:
No. Both are unacceptable and Hillary is no better than Trump.
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Hillary is infinitely better than Trump. The Right should have nominated someone else...you know, someone who cold actually win.
 
calamity said:
Hillary is infinitely better than Trump. The Right should have nominated someone else...you know, someone who cold actually win.
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Why? and beat Mrs. Clinton?
 
Exquisitor said:
Why? and beat Mrs. Clinton?
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Christie, Kasich and Paul could have beaten Hillary pretty easily. I probably couldn't care which of those four became president though. They are all reasonable people---Rand is probably the outlier. He's a bit different than the rest, but I like his kind of "different"; I can't stand Trump's.
 
calamity said:
Christie, Kasich and Paul could have beaten Hillary pretty easily. I probably couldn't care which of those four became president though. They are all reasonable people---Rand is probably the outlier. He's a bit different than the rest, but I like his kind of "different"; I can't stand Trump's.
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Is this what you vote on, what you like, what you can't stand?

Don't worry they like Trump would have no chance after they cut their revenue for the rich.
 
Exquisitor said:
Is this what you vote on, what you like, what you can't stand?

Don't worry they like Trump would have no chance after they cut their revenue for the rich.
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I'm a Centrist. So, I am OK with centrist candidates from either party who are reasonable human beings. Trump may be centrist, but he is unreasonable. And his running mate is Far Rigjt.

Rand Paul's libertarian positions, though not centrist, do however appeal to me. So, I'm a bit center-right in that regard. I'm much more libertarian than liberal progressive. But, there comes a point where the libertarian position loses me, usually when it comes to their idea that we should have no government involvement in infrastructure support.
 
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calamity said:
IMO, voting in Trump would be far worse. We would elect a guy who not only refused to follow traditional norms like turning over his tax returns, but also electing the ultimate "safe place" *****, who blocks reporters he doesn't like, sues comedians who poke fun at him and refuses to do interviews with anyone who he believes will make him look bad. It would be like electing a left wing, millennial social justice warrior without the social skills or the strive to achieve justice.
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None of that is relevant to public policy.
 
Exquisitor said:
I like how you guys like comparing Mrs. Clinton with Donald Trump. There is no comparison Between Mrs. Clinton and Donald Trump. Donald Trump is Republican who cut taxes for rich which got us into this mess. Moreover you're rewarding a Republican. Sad truth, but this is the Hell which is.
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Don't see how I'm rewarding anyone since I'll vote for neither.
 
calamity said:
Hillary is infinitely better than Trump. The Right should have nominated someone else...you know, someone who cold actually win.
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I disagree. HRC is no better than the Donald. I'll vote for neither.
 
Exquisitor said:
I like how you guys like comparing Mrs. Clinton with Donald Trump. There is no comparison Between Mrs. Clinton and Donald Trump. Donald Trump is Republican who cut taxes for rich which got us into this mess. Moreover you're rewarding a Republican. Sad truth, but this is the Hell which is.
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How am I rewarding a Republican by not voting for a Republican?

I like the partisan mindset that says that I have to support the D or the R or I'm supporting the other one by not voting for either argument. It's stupid, it's dangerous, it's ridiculous. There is comparison between Clinton and Trump, and the analysis is that both suck and both will harm the Republic. So not voting for either. And that doesn't support either candidate, it supports the candidate I am voting for.
 
calamity said:
Hillary is infinitely better than Trump. The Right should have nominated someone else...you know, someone who cold actually win.
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I would say that Hillary is infinitesimally better than Trump.
 
Jack Hays said:
I disagree. HRC is no better than the Donald. I'll vote for neither.
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I never understood why people are holding to that position. If anything, Donald has shown us all that Hillary is not the caricature she has been made out to be by the Right. She's calm, cool, disciplined and very knowledgeable about the issues and current state of global affairs. Donald wings it, and it shows. It's like his brain operates on 140-character bits and that's it.
 
Ikari said:
I would say that Hillary is infinitesimally better than Trump.
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IMO, that's like saying daylight is only slightly better than a moonless night when hiking on a rocky trail. Hillary is well-versed on what this nation faces going forward. Trump is going by gut. And, since his gut has led him to four bankruptcies, I'm going to bet his gut instincts suck.

The only thing Trump has over Hillary is branding. He is a master at that. In fact, I imagine this whole fake presidential run is nothing more than a way to enhance his brand. Sad that so many fell for it though.
 
calamity said:
IMO, that's like saying daylight is only slightly better than a moonless night when hiking on a rocky trail. Hillary is well-versed on what this nation faces going forward. Trump is going by gut. And, since his gut has led him to four bankruptcies, I'm going to bet his gut instincts suck.

The only thing Trump has over Hillary is branding. He is a master at that. In fact, I imagine this whole fake presidential run is nothing more than a way to enhance his brand. Sad that so many fell for it though.
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No, it's not, because Hillary isn't Daylight. It's more like a dark, overcast night with no moon and stars vs. a dark, partly cloudy night with no moon and just a couple of stars. Also it's freezing....and you're being chased by wolves.
 
Ikari said:
No, it's not, because Hillary isn't Daylight. It's more like a dark, overcast night with no moon and stars vs. a dark, partly cloudy night with no moon and just a couple of stars. Also it's freezing....and you're being chased by wolves.
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nonsense. Hillary is a very competent policy wonk who totally understands how things work. That I may not agree with all her ideas is not even relevant. She at least knows the road.
 
calamity said:
I never understood why people are holding to that position. If anything, Donald has shown us all that Hillary is not the caricature she has been made out to be by the Right. She's calm, cool, disciplined and very knowledgeable about the issues and current state of global affairs. Donald wings it, and it shows. It's like his brain operates on 140-character bits and that's it.
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She is profoundly dishonest. The email episode is a festival of deceit. She threw free trade over the side to pander to Bernie's voters. Trump is a crude buffoon. Neither will get my vote.
 
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