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Donald Trump is normalizing bigotry

Captain Adverse said:
I did:



Blaming Trump for the actions of private organizations like Breitbart, or those white supremacy groups who support him; as if by such support it must follow that Trump is himself a racist and an anti-Semite.
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Trump may not be a racist or anti-Semitic but his words are heard in that manner by the racists and anti-Semites, not only in America but also in other parts of the world. You should be asking WHY is Trump supported by these ignorant low-lifes. "Dog whistles" are obviously being heard and taken to heart by the deluded; they believe, or say they believe, that a President Trump will put into effect laws which will put white Americans back on top of American society - WHY do they believe that?
 
Somerville said:
I wonder what percent of Trump supporters know the husband of his 'Aryan' daughter is an Orthodox Jew
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Actually, SJW libs are normalizing perceived bigotry where none exists. Which actually makes them the true bigots.
 
Somerville said:
Know the meaning of "dog whistle" when used in a political context?
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Yes, it's the latest buzz word leftist scum use to besmirch those with whom they disagree.
 
Somerville said:
Trump may not be a racist or anti-Semitic...
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That's all we need to know.

How individuals interpret things is their own responsibility. Applying selective guilt by mere association is the problem with the anti-Trump campaign rhetoric.

You prove my point. :coffeepap:
 
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Captain Adverse said:
I did:



Blaming Trump for the actions of private organizations like Breitbart, or those white supremacy groups who support him; as if by such support it must follow that Trump is himself a racist and an anti-Semite.
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Let's not forget Briebart's chairman is now a member of Trump's campaign team!

Or is that purely coincidence?
 
countryboy said:
Actually, SJW libs are normalizing perceived bigotry where none exists. Which actually makes them the true bigots.
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They have been doing this for years and years.
It is just now the meme has finally caught on.

Anyone tries the whole bigot thing with me I just turn it around on them and ask why they are being one as well.
They pretty much shut it after that.

Attempting to call someone a bigot is nothing more than an ad hominem and an appeal to emotion argument.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
That's all we need to know.

How individuals interpret things is their own responsibility. Applying selective guilt by mere association is the problem with the anti-Trump campaign rhetoric.

You prove my point. :coffeepap:
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Denial seems to be the standard fallback when presented with reality for far too many.

WHY hasn't the Trump campaign, its surrogates and spokespersons denounced the alt-right and white supremacists who so loudly support the campaign and their Chosen One?
 
Somerville said:
Denial seems to be the standard fallback when presented with reality for far too many.
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Denial is a river in Africa; at least when it comes to politics on BOTH sides of an issue. :roll:

Somerville said:
WHY hasn't the Trump campaign, its surrogates and spokespersons denounced the alt-right and white supremacists who so loudly support the campaign and their Chosen One?
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Why not? :confused:

The question is, why should they?

This is a close election with Hillary and Trump neck and neck now. One does not shoot oneself in the foot by alienating ANY committed voters at this point in the campaign. Better to simply ignore them and move on.

There will be plenty of time to take such steps AFTER the election.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Trump is not a racist. Period.

Articles like this are examples of the left pulling out all the stops to try to demonize a political opponent through the use of emotional or dehumanizing labeling.

"Racist, misogynist, xenophobe, Islamophobe, and now anti-Semite."

The idea is to repeat this type of tripe over and over again to prevent people from thinking and instead react emotionally.

This is why we see disruptive and violent actions of mobs of protestors outside Trump rallies repeated in the news, and the shrill cries of SJW's who themselves distort every right they claim they are protecting.

It's why people who support Trump become more and more entrenched in that support. We know these lies and exaggerations simply aren't true. :coffeepap:
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He may or may not be the bolded himself, but he deliberately fostered a home and environment for the above, tolerates it, and does not expel it. Which IMO, may be worse than having those attributes himself, since he knows better.

He's building his empire off the backs of "Racist, misogynist, xenophobe, Islamophobe, and now anti-Semite" in substantial effect. Many of his supporters may not be of the list above, but why they would want to associate with them? I surely don't.

[Sry to have opened-up two separate lines of posting here, with you]
 
countryboy said:
Yes, it's the latest buzz word leftist scum use to besmirch those with whom they disagree.
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Are you a self-described "Conservative" as a result of a rather obvious ignorance of history? The term "dog whistle" has been around for at least 20 years and it has sometimes been used as accusation against those "leftist scum" you so love to talk about.

Lee Atwater explained the methodology during an interview in 1981
You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968, you can't say "nigger" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."
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Captain Adverse said:
Denial is a river in Africa; at least when it comes to politics on BOTH sides of an issue. :roll:



Why not? :confused:

The question is, why should they?

This is a close election with Hillary and Trump neck and neck now. One does not shoot oneself in the foot by alienating ANY committed voters at this point in the campaign. Better to simply ignore them and move on.

There will be plenty of time to take such steps AFTER the election.
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So it seems you've conceded the point; that being: Trump is using the Alt-Right for his own political expediency!
 
Captain Adverse said:
I did:



Blaming Trump for the actions of private organizations like Breitbart, or those white supremacy groups who support him; as if by such support it must follow that Trump is himself a racist and an anti-Semite.
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What ****ing planet do you live on? Trump's campaign manager ran Breitbart, they are certainly politically linked.
 
Chomsky said:
So it seems you've conceded the point; that being: Trump is using the Alt-Right for his own political expediency!
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And Clinton is using every minority group to do the same.
She doesn't give a rats rear end if you are a minority.

She is only wanting power. Yet these people are stupid enough to think she actually cares and will
Do something.
 
Chomsky said:
He may or may not be the bolded himself, but he deliberately fostered a home and environment for the above, tolerates it, and does not expel it. Which IMO, may be worse than having those attributes himself, since he knows better.

He's building his empire off the backs of "Racist, misogynist, xenophobe, Islamophobe, and now anti-Semite" in substantial effect. Many of his supporters may not be of the list above, but why they would want to associate with them? I surely don't.

[Sry to have opened-up two separate lines of posting here, with you]
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Are you calling the vast majority of his supporters those epithets? Sounds like you are.

Oh wait! I see you've modified that to "many may not be," (inferring that also many might actually be).

So if most aren't, why aren't they divorcing themselves from those who are? Perhaps because this is an ELECTION?

You know, where one needs votes to get into office? During an election that is neck and neck where every voter group counts?

There is no reason to divorce oneself from a voting block just because opponents consider it "the right thing to do."

As I stated to another member, there will be plenty of time to do that after the election is over.

Chomsky said:
So it seems you've conceded the point; that being: Trump is using the Alt-Right for his own political expediency!
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Umm...no!

I am merely stating what I did again above. Every vote counts. Moreover, just because one is a racist or sexist does not seem to matter to Hillary's crowd; who pander to the BLM movement and the sexist support of third-wave feminists, or any other radical left group she needs for her support.

When Hillary denounces them, then you might have some moral high ground. Until then? My point stands.
 
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ludin said:
And Clinton is using every minority group to do the same.
She doesn't give a rats rear end if you are a minority.

She is only wanting power. Yet these people are stupid enough to think she actually cares and will
Do something.
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True, but the thread topic was Trump.

Pls don't conflate my analysis of Trump, as having implications in my analysis of Clinton.
 
Chomsky said:
True, but the thread topic was Trump.

Pls don't conflate my analysis of Trump, as having implications in my analysis of Clinton.
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Nope wouldn't do that your better than that.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Are you calling the vast majority of his supporters those epithets? Sounds like you are.

Oh wait! I see you've modified that to "many may not be," (inferring that also many might actually be).

So if most aren't, why aren't they divorcing themselves from those who are? Perhaps because this is an ELECTION?

You know, where one needs votes to get into office? During an election that is neck and neck where every voter group counts?

There is no reason to divorce oneself from a voting block just because opponents consider it "the right thing to do."

As I stated to another member, there will be plenty of time to do that after the election is over.
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No modifications here my friend - that is my post as it stands.

I stand by my statement that Trump is fostering and promoting an environment with individuals possessing the bigoted qualities you listed, and he is riding off their backs for his own political expediency.

And you have not disputed that, and in fact have agreed as much.

Which is the topic of this thread.
 
its the same thing over and over people thinking the person they are voting for is the better, and the party they belong to is the better.

with opposite party being evil.

all i can do is laugh that this sh#t
 
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