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Why does feminists, leftists, liberals only hate christians and christianity?

jeffersson said:
Maybe i should post this in the religion-section, but this is also about political.

I always been shocked that leftists, liberals and feminists only seem to hate christianity and christians.

They claim that christianity is racist, violent, sexist, homohphobic and that christian empires in the middles ages was very hard society to live in. They also claim that christians are bad people.

However, they dont say the same about other religions. They always say nice things about islam, calling it a peaceful religion, with no sexism and homophobia with a tolerant history and that muslims are very kind and gentle. They say that Iran, Saudi, ISIS does not repesent Islam, but chrisitan extremists repesent chrisianity and that problem in muslim world is not beuse of islam but becuse of culture but problem in christian nations are becuse of chrisitanity. And hey also claim that the slavery and nazism was becuse of christianity, but slavery by the arabs and turks and the the genocide done by muslims was not becuse of islam, instead it was becuse of other things.....

Why this double moral?

The feminists and leftists in the west have the same view on christianity and its followers as the far-right has on islam and muslims. Its the same type of hatred and sterotypes.

How can this feminists and leftists call themself loving people and hate right-wingers for hating islam and muslims when the feminists and the leftists have the same radical view but on chrisitanity and christians?

And are this people even aware that most chrisitans are not white? Many non-white christians vote on hillary for exemple. This non-white christians gets hated by far-right becuse of their skin color and at the same time they get hated by hillary-supporters for their religion, must be hard.
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You are Very Confused. Now back to whatever it is you need to share................
 
I agree that it has nothing to do with religion. Its identity politics. Liberals parse people based on identity to cull together their outrage powered coalition.


Cephus said:
No, liberals have an affinity to Islam because it's primarily practiced by brown people. It has nothing to do with the religion itself, it's a quasi-racist position because they detest white people.
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Welcome to liberal logic.

jeffersson said:
But, islam is also against gay-marriage and abortion. If you google "gay rights in the world" all sources show that muslim nations opresses gays the most. There is gay marriage in thousands of churches in the world, how many mosques have gay marriage, 1?
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Seems to me that the only hatred in this thread is coming from a handful conservative posters. What they hate is the left. The reasons they hate the left are lies.



Psychology has an explanation for why such persons would be drawn to claiming the left hates various things.
 
Don't be silly. Feminists, leftists, Democrats, hate a whole range of people. Jews are always fair game for them to hate. So are white males or, really, any man. When you consider all they have is the Class War, Gender War, and Race War they have to hate.
 
Patrickt said:
Don't be silly. Feminists, leftists, Democrats, hate a whole range of people. Jews are always fair game for them to hate. So are white males or, really, any man. When you consider all they have is the Class War, Gender War, and Race War they have to hate.
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Why do you hate white males and Jews?
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Why do you hate white males and Jews?
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Sorry. I'm not a liberal Democrat or a socialist. Remember Gov. Howard Dean. "I hate all Republicans and everything they stand for." The Democrats are the party of hate. Jews and white males are just two popular targets. I had diversity training from liberals so I know who it's okay to hate and who it isn't.
 
Patrickt said:
Sorry. I'm not a liberal Democrat or a socialist. Remember Gov. Howard Dean. "I hate all Republicans and everything they stand for." The Democrats are the party of hate. Jews and white males are just two popular targets. I had diversity training from liberals so I know who it's okay to hate and who it isn't.
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Last time I checked, Howard Dean does not speak for all Democrats.
 
TheGoverness said:
Last time I checked, Howard Dean does not speak for all Democrats.
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That's about as pointless as Tanngrisnir's question. No one speaks for any group but he was a Presidential candidate for the Democrats at the time. He was a Democrat governor. He was a very liberal Democrat. While he doesn't speak for all Democrats he is a wonderful example of a typical hateful liberal Democrat. Who is it in the U.S. that hates Jews? Let's see. Is it Republicans? No. Is it conservatives? No. Is it Christians? No. Oh, golly, who is it that infests the BDS movement and supports the Palestianian terrorists? Is it the Veterans of Foreign Wars? No.

It's the Democrats and other leftists, and their doppelgangers the Neo-Nazis, isn't it?
 
Patrickt said:
Sorry. I'm not a liberal Democrat or a socialist. Remember Gov. Howard Dean. "I hate all Republicans and everything they stand for." The Democrats are the party of hate. Jews and white males are just two popular targets. I had diversity training from liberals so I know who it's okay to hate and who it isn't.
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So, again, why do you hate white males and Jews? Is it jealousy? What did they ever do to you?
 
Patrickt said:
Don't be silly. Feminists, leftists, Democrats, hate a whole range of people. Jews are always fair game for them to hate. So are white males or, really, any man. When you consider all they have is the Class War, Gender War, and Race War they have to hate.
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I have never seen leftists bash jews. Out of religious people they only bash christians. Not only against the christian right, but against all christians/Whole christianity, i think they hate christians just as much as trump-supporters hate islam.
 
jeffersson said:
Maybe i should post this in the religion-section, but this is also about political.

I always been shocked that leftists, liberals and feminists only seem to hate christianity and christians.

They claim that christianity is racist, violent, sexist, homohphobic and that christian empires in the middles ages was very hard society to live in. They also claim that christians are bad people.

However, they dont say the same about other religions. They always say nice things about islam, calling it a peaceful religion, with no sexism and homophobia with a tolerant history and that muslims are very kind and gentle. They say that Iran, Saudi, ISIS does not repesent Islam, but chrisitan extremists repesent chrisianity and that problem in muslim world is not beuse of islam but becuse of culture but problem in christian nations are becuse of chrisitanity. And hey also claim that the slavery and nazism was becuse of christianity, but slavery by the arabs and turks and the the genocide done by muslims was not becuse of islam, instead it was becuse of other things.....

Why this double moral?

The feminists and leftists in the west have the same view on christianity and its followers as the far-right has on islam and muslims. Its the same type of hatred and sterotypes.

How can this feminists and leftists call themself loving people and hate right-wingers for hating islam and muslims when the feminists and the leftists have the same radical view but on chrisitanity and christians?

And are this people even aware that most chrisitans are not white? Many non-white christians vote on hillary for exemple. This non-white christians gets hated by far-right becuse of their skin color and at the same time they get hated by hillary-supporters for their religion, must be hard.
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This is simply untrue. A majority of Democrats are Christians (somewhere between 56% and 70% depending on the statistics you look at). So, unless you want to claim they are self-hating then your claim just doesn't make sense.
 
TobyOne said:
Liberals have a natural affinity to islam because of its ant-americanism. Also its suppression of freedom and speech. They love that ****. Its a circle of liberal dysfunction.
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What garbage.
 
jeffersson said:
Maybe i should post this in the religion-section, but this is also about political.

I always been shocked that leftists, liberals and feminists only seem to hate christianity and christians.

They claim that christianity is racist, violent, sexist, homohphobic and that christian empires in the middles ages was very hard society to live in. They also claim that christians are bad people.

However, they dont say the same about other religions. They always say nice things about islam, calling it a peaceful religion, with no sexism and homophobia with a tolerant history and that muslims are very kind and gentle. They say that Iran, Saudi, ISIS does not repesent Islam, but chrisitan extremists repesent chrisianity and that problem in muslim world is not beuse of islam but becuse of culture but problem in christian nations are becuse of chrisitanity. And hey also claim that the slavery and nazism was becuse of christianity, but slavery by the arabs and turks and the the genocide done by muslims was not becuse of islam, instead it was becuse of other things.....

Why this double moral?

The feminists and leftists in the west have the same view on christianity and its followers as the far-right has on islam and muslims. Its the same type of hatred and sterotypes.

How can this feminists and leftists call themself loving people and hate right-wingers for hating islam and muslims when the feminists and the leftists have the same radical view but on chrisitanity and christians?

And are this people even aware that most chrisitans are not white? Many non-white christians vote on hillary for exemple. This non-white christians gets hated by far-right becuse of their skin color and at the same time they get hated by hillary-supporters for their religion, must be hard.
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This ridiculous question is equivalent to asking, "When will you stop beating your wife?"
 
jeffersson said:
Maybe i should post this in the religion-section, but this is also about political.

I always been shocked that leftists, liberals and feminists only seem to hate christianity and christians.

They claim that christianity is racist, violent, sexist, homohphobic
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 and that christian empires in the middles ages was very hard society to live in. They also claim that christians are bad people.

However, they dont say the same about other religions. They always say nice things about islam, calling it a peaceful religion, with no sexism and homophobia with a tolerant history and that muslims are very kind and gentle. They say that Iran, Saudi, ISIS does not repesent Islam, but chrisitan extremists repesent chrisianity and that problem in muslim world is not beuse of islam but becuse of culture but problem in christian nations are becuse of chrisitanity. And hey also claim that the slavery and nazism was becuse of christianity, but slavery by the arabs and turks and the the genocide done by muslims was not becuse of islam, instead it was becuse of other things.....

Why this double moral?

The feminists and leftists in the west have the same view on christianity and its followers as the far-right has on islam and muslims. Its the same type of hatred and sterotypes.

How can this feminists and leftists call themself loving people and hate right-wingers for hating islam and muslims when the feminists and the leftists have the same radical view but on chrisitanity and christians?

And are this people even aware that most chrisitans are not white? Many non-white christians vote on hillary for exemple. This non-white christians gets hated by far-right becuse of their skin color and at the same time they get hated by hillary-supporters for their religion, must be hard.
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You left out misogynist.

What will the far-right evangelists do when Hillary Clinton moves into the White House?
 
Cephus said:
No, liberals have an affinity to Islam because it's primarily practiced by brown people. It has nothing to do with the religion itself, it's a quasi-racist position because they detest white people.
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*Democrats* have an affinity to Islam because Muslims vote for them, just like Republicans openly despise them because their own voters do too. Actual liberals have no such affinity for the religion because Islamic cultures by and large act in direct opposition to liberal principles, like rights for women and lgbt. You cannot support all of these things at once. They are not compatible. What liberals do support is the Muslim minority in the west that have largely assimilated and are not out there stoning people to death, and are actually often victims themselves of violence

You're crazy if you think a liberal atheist is going to have some kind of fondness for shar'ia law just because of their skin color. And btw, there are white muslims - 80% of albanians are muslims for instance
 
OrphanSlug said:
A couple of things come to mind, in no particular order...

I doubt "leftists, liberals and feminists only seem to hate christianity and christians." If those named groups disagree with anything, it is social conservatism and/or theocratic leanings where the power of governance is used to ensure social climate and/or controls.

I will grant you that if it is perceived that the same group gives a pass to Islam (which I am on the fence on being truthful or not,) then the immediate problem is of the big three monotheistic religions is it Islam that most likely to lean to social conservative and/or theocratic. It is also seemingly accurate to suggest that of the big three monotheistic religions in practice that Islam is most harsh on social liberalism (in terms of both equality between men and women, and dealing with sexual orientation.)

Our bigger problem is how we apply various stereotypes and associations to these groups. Not all those who follow Islam have the same take on those teachings, Islam has had splinters and competition interpretations of religious text just as Judaism and Christianity have.

Another issue we need to mention is the history of social conservatism arguably stemming from various flavors of Christianity in this nation vs. the various social revolutions we have experienced arguably stemming from "leftists, liberals, feminists" and what have you. In terms of this nation Islam is late to the game on how social conservatism (even from their perspective) collides with more western social ideologies.

I have said before, and will say again, that any take on "multiculturalism" has one inherent requirement. All cultures participating in the mix must have an inherent respect for all other cultures also in the mix. Islam is probably going to have the hardest time participating in that even though in this nation the fight between social conservatism from Judeo-Christianity and social liberalism from various movements is more rich. That is a long way of saying that at the end of the day, any take on social conservatism and/or theocracy no matter how mild will have troubles respecting other social ideologies.

I will agree that modern liberalism (of any flavor) has an inherent problem fighting for Islam to have their culture while in adversarial condition to social conservatism from Christianity. Part of that is age of the fight, the other part is Islam still has a minority status here. Even though Islam represents a more harsh take on social conservatism and theocracy, Christianity has been here longer and has more dominant control over what is called "social conservatism" in this nation. That fight, and that political pendulum influenced by western social conservatism and western social liberalism has more history than Islam brings to the table just yet.

The very moment Islam gains more traction here in the US, the more it will become adversarial to social liberalism for the named reasons. Primarily dealing with theocratic leaning and dealing with social liberalism for the usual subjects. Gay rights, marriage equality, equality between men and women, and all that comes with it.
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I agree with this post 100% and this is also why i don't embrace the "big tent" of democrats fully. You can't pretend to support rights for gays and women but then also be too much a coward to condemn the 70+ executions in Saudi and just welcome them into the UN human rights council. I happened by Maher's show a couple weeks ago and while the British guest was making this point about the evil alliance with Saudi, the Dem politician just sat there smiling. That is not going to cut it for me, and it WILL become a bigger conflict to liberals if Muslims in this country do keep growing both in #s and power, and fail to embrace western values of not blowing up gay clubs and refusing to let Jews into their cab (this happened in my town) and the like.

The OP asking why the "hate" against christianity, well, remember it was republicans who set up this battle in state after state for a decade against gay rights and kept framing their side as 'proper christians', and i don't know too many liberals who were ever republicans so...what can they expect?
 
jeffersson said:
Not at all. Im not even christian. I just find it amazing how lefitists bash trump-supporters for being hateful towards muslims and islam while the leftists themself hate christinaity and christians with the same passion.
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You really think any group is void of so-called members engaging in nonsense? The majority of leftists are fine with Christianity, the majority are Christian. Is the majority of conservatives fine with Islam? Obviously not. Jihad is defined by the crazies, not the majority. Mainstream Muslims are said to "not speak out" or otherwise comply with the actions of a handful of crazies. When a crazed Christian commits an atrocity in the name of Christianity, do we look in the Bible for quotes that explain why he did it? No, we don't. But we do that to Muslims.

So no, it's not the same at all.
 
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