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All the Eggs Are Broken, No Omlet in Sight

LowDown

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Socialism’s left Venezuela a ‘walking dead’ nation

...Food is in short supply and expensive. The government’s drafting people to work the fields. Protests and riots now choke the cities. Criminal gangs roam the countryside; hospitals are crumbling, with basic medicines scarce.

Here’s socialism at its finest: Venezuela is now forced to import oil from the United States, the devil in the eyes of the regime.

Yes, the South American energy powerhouse is still pumping 2.4 million barrels a day on its own — but that’s a million barrels below the level before Hugo Chavez took over in 1999, and down 350,000 barrels from just last year.

Worse, production in key fields has reduced the state to buying 50,000 barrels a day of US light crude to blend with the domestic petroleum for a product fit for export.

Under Chavez and his successor, Nicolás Maduro, the government nationalized key petro companies — then failed to invest in basic maintenance, instead spending the cash on buying popularity. [They did this with several industries, basically running the industrial economy into the ground. And the government took control of the food supply, and people starve. - LowDown]

Now everything’s falling apart: not just the oil industry, but the whole economy.

Maduro has lost the confidence of the people, but he's holding on with executive power and secret police borrowed from Cuba.
The end game is going to be very ugly.

These are the consequences of trying to enact pure socialism. It is inevitable, and it has happened in world history again and again. Maybe the pain wasn't in the plan when they decided to put their hand on that stove, but they are in pain nonetheless.
 
To err occasionally is human nature - to really **** things up requires extreme government power and control. ;)
 
The end game is going to be very ugly.

These are the consequences of trying to enact pure socialism. It is inevitable, and it has happened in world history again and again. Maybe the pain wasn't in the plan when they decided to put their hand on that stove, but they are in pain nonetheless.
Yes, it is what is bad when, I think it was as Alexis de Tocqueville is often attributed to have said, something to the effect that democracy is good system until that day when voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.

I live close to this disaster happening in front of our eyes, feel sorry for all Venezuelans, even the ones who voted in Chavez and Maduro.
 
The people of Venezuela suffer but the elites don't. The people of Venezuela will suffer in the immediate future but the elites won't. Venezuela is exactly what the elites want for the U.S.
 
The people of Venezuela suffer but the elites don't. The people of Venezuela will suffer in the immediate future but the elites won't. Venezuela is exactly what the elites want for the U.S.

A vote for Hillary will bring us one step closer.
 
The end game is going to be very ugly.

These are the consequences of trying to enact pure socialism. It is inevitable, and it has happened in world history again and again. Maybe the pain wasn't in the plan when they decided to put their hand on that stove, but they are in pain nonetheless.

Standby to be lectured about how this isn't really socialism in.....3...2...1
 
The people of Venezuela suffer but the elites don't. The people of Venezuela will suffer in the immediate future but the elites won't. Venezuela is exactly what the elites want for the U.S.

Yep. In a socialist utopia it's the elitists that get rich and live high on the hog while the rank and file suffer greatly. Mao was a billionaire while his people starved, it's the same with the Castro Bros in Cuba, they're filthy rich. It would seem the kooker leftists would wise up, but they don't because they are extremely slow to learn.

It's truly unbelievable.
 
These are the consequences of trying to enact pure socialism.

And where can I look up this failed bill to nationalize all means of production in the United States?




(Why is it that the right doesn't seem to know what 'socialism' actually is? Ok ok, I'll be fair: why do only about five people on the right know but none of the others do?)
 
And where can I look up this failed bill to nationalize all means of production in the United States?

(Why is it that the right doesn't seem to know what 'socialism' actually is? Ok ok, I'll be fair: why do only about five people on the right know but none of the others do?)

No such bill has ever existed and to be honest I doubt it ever will, at least not here in America.
 
And where can I look up this failed bill to nationalize all means of production in the United States?

All in good time.

(Why is it that the right doesn't seem to know what 'socialism' actually is? Ok ok, I'll be fair: why do only about five people on the right know but none of the others do?)

And don't even try that "Venezuela isn't socialist" BS. Why is it that every single failed socialist state was never really socialist, and those that socialists claim are successful socialist states are not really socialist?

Really, if you know of a country where the state owns and manages all or most of the means of production that's a success and private property has been abolished without turning authoritarian/totalitarian I'd love to know about it. As far as I know such a thing has never existed, not at the modern nation-state level, anyway.
 
Why is it that every single failed socialist state was never really socialist...

They did it all wrong. At least that is what the kooker leftists will tell you.

Another favorite of theirs is, only they can define what socialism is. What they don't get is, no matter how you slice it, its still socialism. LMAO...
 
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