Question for those who say Scott didn't have a gun.

Grim17 said:

I respect you post and believe that the possibility exists, that things could have been handled where the man didn't end up dead. That is an opinion based on certain conditions existing, that I have no evidence what so ever existed at the scene. Even with that said, I don't believe that the officer acted inappropriately at all based what I've seen and heard from the 3 videos I've viewed.

A person can't refuse an order by police to drop the gun that's in their hand like he did so many times and for so long, and expect not to be shot. If it was a knife or something else in his hand rather than a gun, then the use of deadly force might have been questionable.

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If the gun was holstered like some people here think, why was he told to drop it 13 times?

Why would an officer tell somebody to drop something they are not holding?

Deuce said:

I thought people were allowed to have guns in America but it seems to get you killed by police easily.

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People sitting in the front seats of their vehicles rolling joints prolly arent allowed to own guns. Felons arent allowed to own guns. Certainly this guy, who spent several years in prison for shooting at a cop in 2005 wasnt allowed to own a gun. And yes...if you are being approached by a law enforcment officer for a criminal act and you brandish and refuse to set down the firearm, you are likely to get shot.

Can you support your premise that law abiding citizens that are carrying a firearm are killed by the police 'easily' (I assume you mean regularly)?

Mason66 said:

As I was told in another thread here they think an officer took the gun out of the holster and laid it on the ground next to him to cover themselves.

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The only problem with that theory is, it would have had to have been a pre-planned assassination by law enforcement, because nothing else can explain why police officers would demand more than a dozen times for him to drop his gun during the minute that preceded the actual shooting. It was a sunny day and officers were in very close proximity, so the notion that all of them mistakenly saw a gun in his hand, shot him, and then tried to cover it up, with video rolling and his wife right there, is quite a stretch... Don't you agree?

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Mason66 said:

If the gun was holstered like some people here think, why was he told to drop it 13 times?

Why would an officer tell somebody to drop something they are not holding?

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EXACTLY... It simply doesn't fit.

Grim17 said:

The only problem with that theory is, it would have had to have been a pre-planned assassination by law enforcement, because nothing else can explain why police officers would demand more than a dozen times for him to drop his gun during the minute that preceded the actual shooting. It was a sunny day and officers were in very close proximity, so the notion that all of them mistakenly saw a gun in his hand, shot him, and then tried to cover it up, with video rolling and his wife right there, is quite a stretch... Don't you agree?

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Yes I agree but I was not the one that floated that particular conspiracy.

Grim17 said:

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Now here's my question:

Why would he have an empty gun holster strapped to his ankle, if he didn't have a gun?

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It isn't about Scott, or Martin, or Sandra bland or anybody really. Notice this crap really sparked up about 8 years ago? Coincidentally the United States elected a black man to the office of President. I'm beginning to see how these two things are connected. A nation racist against black people would never even consider a black candidate.

Among the black population you have your ne"er do wells, they exist in every ethnic and racial demographic, but they are bulkanized in black communities by assclowns that fancy themselves "black leaders." These so called "black leaders" have made an enormous amount of money convincing the ne'er do wells that they are where they are due to systematic racism in our country. Ne'er do wells being what they are they tend to like excuses. These excuse are drying up and people are understanding it more and more. So when the police shoot some two bit thug that happens to be black it lends to their narrative.

Police aren't killing any more people than they have in the past. Now all the sudden it's a problem? I'm not buying it.

For so long these ne'er do wells and their "leaders" have gotten people to shut up just by mentioning slavery. Now that isn't working and they need something new to excuse their position.

whysoserious said:

I can see that point. Though, you need a license to drive a car, so I do not see why it isn't reasonable to need to take a similar exam for firearms. Gun people would obviously go ape**** over that.

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Licensing drivers isn't about educating them on proper management of automobiles or traffic law or really anything. It's about collection of fees. You aren't required to take so many hours of driving school to get a license and you don't have to prove you still know how. All you have to do is know what a couple of signs mean and have good eyesight.

You also don't need a drivers license to keep a car or even a couple at your house. You do need a license to carry a gun and you also have to attend so many hours of class about laws and proficiency in order to carry a pistol or hunt. Your license to carry expires more often.

So when you compare the two it's really quite equal.

whysoserious said:

I can see that point. Though, you need a license to drive a car, so I do not see why it isn't reasonable to need to take a similar exam for firearms. Gun people would obviously go ape**** over that.

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Owning a car is not a right and what you suggest is an infringement.

Mason66 said:

If the gun was holstered like some people here think, why was he told to drop it 13 times?

Why would an officer tell somebody to drop something they are not holding?

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Stop resisting. Stop resisting. Stop resisting.

Boom.

I told him to stop.

Clean shoot.

Case closed.

It happens. It just didn't happen in this case so black lies started a riot over another modern day civil rights hero.