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Unarmed Black Men Account For Less than 4% of Police Fatalities!

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WaPo: " In a year-long study, The Washington Post found that the kind of incidents that have ignited protests in many U.S. communities — most often, white police officers killing unarmed black men — represent less than 4 percent of fatal police shootings. Meanwhile, The Post found that the great majority of people who died at the hands of the police fit at least one of three categories: they were wielding weapons, they were suicidal or mentally troubled, or they ran when officers told them to halt."

Tada! Police around the country are actually doing their job quite well. We can all stop talking about BLM and start focusing our attention on more pressing issues!

Case closed. You're welcome DP :2razz:

Police fatally shoot nearly 1,000 people in 2015 | The Washington Post
 
truthatallcost said:
WaPo: " In a year-long study, The Washington Post found that the kind of incidents that have ignited protests in many U.S. communities — most often, white police officers killing unarmed black men — represent less than 4 percent of fatal police shootings. Meanwhile, The Post found that the great majority of people who died at the hands of the police fit at least one of three categories: they were wielding weapons, they were suicidal or mentally troubled, or they ran when officers told them to halt."

Tada! Police around the country are actually doing their job quite well. We can all stop talking about BLM and start focusing our attention on more pressing issues!

Case closed. You're welcome DP :2razz:

Police fatally shoot nearly 1,000 people in 2015 | The Washington Post
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Wow. You really need to work on your data analysis skills.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-by-police-yes-but-no/?utm_term=.05cf4fd0689f
 
truthatallcost said:
WaPo: " In a year-long study, The Washington Post found that the kind of incidents that have ignited protests in many U.S. communities — most often, white police officers killing unarmed black men — represent less than 4 percent of fatal police shootings. Meanwhile, The Post found that the great majority of people who died at the hands of the police fit at least one of three categories: they were wielding weapons, they were suicidal or mentally troubled, or they ran when officers told them to halt."

Tada! Police around the country are actually doing their job quite well. We can all stop talking about BLM and start focusing our attention on more pressing issues!

Case closed. You're welcome DP :2razz:

Police fatally shoot nearly 1,000 people in 2015 | The Washington Post
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Cops just apprehended a known terrorist in NYC after a gun battle. He wasn't shot multiple times. Lequan McDonald in Chicago. Shot 16 times. There is no question in my mind that we have a problem. Just ask the cop in Tulsa charged with first degree manslaughter for killing an unarmed black man.

We are not doing a good job of policing the police.

Statistics may show its not as wide spread as we think. But there's no question that we need to do a whole lot better.
 
truthatallcost said:
WaPo: " In a year-long study, The Washington Post found that the kind of incidents that have ignited protests in many U.S. communities — most often, white police officers killing unarmed black men — represent less than 4 percent of fatal police shootings. Meanwhile, The Post found that the great majority of people who died at the hands of the police fit at least one of three categories: they were wielding weapons, they were suicidal or mentally troubled, or they ran when officers told them to halt."

Tada! Police around the country are actually doing their job quite well. We can all stop talking about BLM and start focusing our attention on more pressing issues!

Case closed. You're welcome DP :2razz:

Police fatally shoot nearly 1,000 people in 2015 | The Washington Post
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You just angered the kooker left. ROTFLMAO
 
MaggieD said:
Cops just apprehended a known terrorist in NYC after a gun battle. He wasn't shot multiple times. Lequan McDonald in Chicago. Shot 16 times. There is no question in my mind that we have a problem. Just ask the cop in Tulsa charged with first degree manslaughter for killing an unarmed black man.

We are not doing a good job of policing the police.

Statistics may show its not as wide spread as we think. But there's no question that we need to do a whole lot better.
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Maggie... you are just the frickin' best. :mrgreen: I love reading your posts...
 
MaggieD said:
Cops just apprehended a known terrorist in NYC after a gun battle. He wasn't shot multiple times. Lequan McDonald in Chicago. Shot 16 times. There is no question in my mind that we have a problem. Just ask the cop in Tulsa charged with first degree manslaughter for killing an unarmed black man.

We are not doing a good job of policing the police.

Statistics may show its not as wide spread as we think. But there's no question that we need to do a whole lot better.
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Only 1 police officer shot Lequan McDonald, and he clearly made a mistake which was brought on by chasing a severely troubled person wielding a knife. Police officers see knife ravaged victims often in the course of their job. Which is why your adrenaline kicks in when you respond to a scene where a subject is showing signs of mental instability while slashing a knife around.

Rahami (the NY and NJ bomber) was shot twice and listed in critical condition. Is it the police officers fault that somehow he survived?
 
DirtyRat said:
Psst, their mentality needs to be unstuck before they can hope to acquire bonafide skills.
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96% of people killed by police were not unarmed black men who were shot by white officers. Time to get a new social justice warrior cause. :peace
 
MaggieD said:
Cops just apprehended a known terrorist in NYC after a gun battle. He wasn't shot multiple times. Lequan McDonald in Chicago. Shot 16 times. There is no question in my mind that we have a problem. Just ask the cop in Tulsa charged with first degree manslaughter for killing an unarmed black man.

We are not doing a good job of policing the police.

Statistics may show its not as wide spread as we think. But there's no question that we need to do a whole lot better.
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in 2016 there will be approx 6 MILLION police contatcs throughout the year. to date, there have been 707 fatal shootings. 41 of those fatal shootings involved unarmed citizens and 36 of those 41 incidents involved an assault or resisting arrest action by the 'victim'. There were more whites than blacks killed in all instances-armed and unarmed.

Just because the rhetoric is promoted as problematic does not necessarily mean it is problematic.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2016/?tid=a_inl
 
truthatallcost said:
Only 1 police officer shot Lequan McDonald, and he clearly made a mistake which was brought on by chasing a severely troubled person wielding a knife. Police officers see knife ravaged victims often in the course of their job. Which is why your adrenaline kicks in when you respond to a scene where a subject is showing signs of mental instability while slashing a knife around.

Rahami (the NY and NJ bomber) was shot twice and listed in critical condition. Is it the police officers fault that somehow he survived?
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Yeah, the terrorist wasn't seriously injured.

You apparently haven't viewed the Lequan video. He was walking away with a knife held at his side shot by the "mistaken" officer [sarcasm] IN THE BACK within three seconds of his exit from his squad car. Shot multiple times while already on the g Lund and probably dead or dying. That was no mistake. That was murder. If I'm not mistaken, a half dozen cops have lost their jobs for bald faced lying re this incident. It is disgusting.
 
VanceMack said:
in 2016 there will be approx 6 MILLION police contatcs throughout the year. to date, there have been 707 fatal shootings. 41 of those fatal shootings involved unarmed citizens and 36 of those 41 incidents involved an assault or resisting arrest action by the 'victim'. There were more whites than blacks killed in all instances-armed and unarmed.

Just because the rhetoric is promoted as problematic does not necessarily mean it is problematic.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2016/?tid=a_inl
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What's problematic is that each and every case isn't dissected and cops aren't held accountable. More whites than blacks only makes sense.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Wow. You really need to work on your data analysis skills.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-by-police-yes-but-no/?utm_term=.05cf4fd0689f
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If we only adjust for population we're leaving out a whole bunch of other significant factors that lead to police shootings and get a severely warped result.

Try this analysis which is, IMHO, one of the most fair and reasonable accountings I've run across. - https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/07...ice-shootings-data-reveals-surprising-result/

It is based on the Washington Post data as well as FBI Crime statistics.
 
MaggieD said:
Cops just apprehended a known terrorist in NYC after a gun battle. He wasn't shot multiple times. Lequan McDonald in Chicago. Shot 16 times. There is no question in my mind that we have a problem. Just ask the cop in Tulsa charged with first degree manslaughter for killing an unarmed black man.

We are not doing a good job of policing the police.

Statistics may show its not as wide spread as we think. But there's no question that we need to do a whole lot better.
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I'd disagree. The cops in the Mcdonald case are being hooked up and so is the officer in Tulsa. That's the very definition of "policing the police".

What people seem to be looking for is failure free policing and that's just plain not reasonable.
 
MaggieD said:
What's problematic is that each and every case isn't dissected and cops aren't held accountable. More whites than blacks only makes sense.
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Who says that each and every case isn't dissected and cops aren't held accountable?


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MaggieD said:
Yeah, the terrorist wasn't seriously injured.

You apparently haven't viewed the Lequan video. He was walking away with a knife held at his side shot by the "mistaken" officer [sarcasm] IN THE BACK within three seconds of his exit from his squad car. Shot multiple times while already on the g Lund and probably dead or dying. That was no mistake. That was murder. If I'm not mistaken, a half dozen cops have lost their jobs for bald faced lying re this incident. It is disgusting.
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And officer Van Dyke is currently facing life in prison, if convicted. His charges include:

◾Murder/Intent to Kill/Injure With Firearm,
◾Murder/Strong Probability to Kill/Injure With Firearm,
◾Murder/Intent to Kill/Injure Discharge Firearm,
◾Murder/Strong Probability to Kill/Injure Discharge Firearm,
◾Murder/Intent to Kill/Injure Discharge Firearm Proximately, and
◾Murder/Strong Probability to Kill/Injure Discharge Firearm Proximately.

What else should be done here?

I have seen the McDonald video, the officer was in the wrong. I also want to say that police officers are not immune to their working environments, just like you have to put up with a certain level of stress at your job
Only the stress that an officer working in Chicago's slums deals with is many, many, many times more severe than what the average American deals with.
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Since when is critical condition not considered "seriously injured"??
 
truthatallcost said:
They get so angwy when you shine a light on their delusions. :lol:
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You drew attention away from the leftist meme of, “hands up don’t shoot,” and introduced some facts that anyone can research if they had the courage to challenge themselves.
 
truthatallcost said:
WaPo: " In a year-long study, The Washington Post found that the kind of incidents that have ignited protests in many U.S. communities — most often, white police officers killing unarmed black men — represent less than 4 percent of fatal police shootings. Meanwhile, The Post found that the great majority of people who died at the hands of the police fit at least one of three categories: they were wielding weapons, they were suicidal or mentally troubled, or they ran when officers told them to halt."

Tada! Police around the country are actually doing their job quite well. We can all stop talking about BLM and start focusing our attention on more pressing issues!

Case closed. You're welcome DP :2razz:

Police fatally shoot nearly 1,000 people in 2015 | The Washington Post
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...but black people being killed by other black people account for roughly 50% of all US homicides.
 
calamity said:
...but black people being killed by other black people account for roughly 50% of all US homicides.
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Well you're clearly racist for pointing that out. Facts and figures are a sure sign of racism, we want blind rage!
 
DamnYankee said:
You drew attention away from the leftist meme of, “hands up don’t shoot,” and introduced some facts that anyone can research if they had the courage to challenge themselves.
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High 5 DY.

I think some people would be better off relying on logic rather than emotion, when considering these police shootings. Logic will lead them to facts and away from stereotyping all police based on 1 or 2 stories.
 
VanceMack said:
in 2016 there will be approx 6 MILLION police contatcs throughout the year. to date, there have been 707 fatal shootings. 41 of those fatal shootings involved unarmed citizens and 36 of those 41 incidents involved an assault or resisting arrest action by the 'victim'. There were more whites than blacks killed in all instances-armed and unarmed.

Just because the rhetoric is promoted as problematic does not necessarily mean it is problematic.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2016/?tid=a_inl
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Applaud this man DP, he just ended BLM in one paragraph :applaud
 
truthatallcost said:
WaPo: " In a year-long study, The Washington Post found that the kind of incidents that have ignited protests in many U.S. communities — most often, white police officers killing unarmed black men — represent less than 4 percent of fatal police shootings. Meanwhile, The Post found that the great majority of people who died at the hands of the police fit at least one of three categories: they were wielding weapons, they were suicidal or mentally troubled, or they ran when officers told them to halt."

Tada! Police around the country are actually doing their job quite well. We can all stop talking about BLM and start focusing our attention on more pressing issues!

Case closed. You're welcome DP :2razz:

Police fatally shoot nearly 1,000 people in 2015 | The Washington Post
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You do realize that the title of this thread kind of sounds like you're saying that the 4% of unarmed blacks who were killed should be of no consequence to anyone, right?

That's a pretty damned cold way to characterize it.
 
truthatallcost said:
And officer Van Dyke is currently facing life in prison, if convicted. His charges include:

◾Murder/Intent to Kill/Injure With Firearm,
◾Murder/Strong Probability to Kill/Injure With Firearm,
◾Murder/Intent to Kill/Injure Discharge Firearm,
◾Murder/Strong Probability to Kill/Injure Discharge Firearm,
◾Murder/Intent to Kill/Injure Discharge Firearm Proximately, and
◾Murder/Strong Probability to Kill/Injure Discharge Firearm Proximately.

What else should be done here?

I have seen the McDonald video, the officer was in the wrong. I also want to say that police officers are not immune to their working environments, just like you have to put up with a certain level of stress at your job
Only the stress that an officer working in Chicago's slums deals with is many, many, many times more severe than what the average American deals with.
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Since when is critical condition not considered "seriously injured"??
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I'm judging his injuries by the attitude he was displaying on the gurney.
 
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