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Ohio Trump campaign chair Kathy Miller says there was 'no racism' before Obama

Yes, because directly quoting someone is 'skewing.' Yes, yes, I see where your level of judgment and reasoning is at.
I read what he said and I read what you said he said. Two different things.

You said and I quote, "
Yes, because directly quoting someone is 'skewing.' Yes, yes, I see where your level of judgment and reasoning is at.



"It is patently proven and false that there was only peace and no riots before Obama and then suddenly there was."

Cut and paste where he said, or even implied, those words, ONLY peace and NO riots. He didn't, he even when on to explain that to you himself, using the term relative peace, etc... One might say he was a little sloppy with the riots began statement, but he meant recommenced I am pretty sure, after a period of relative peace, sure, interspersed with some flair ups, but not this ongoing stuff between races.

Deny it all you want, its recorded right here. Cut and paste please.
 
I read what he said and I read what you said he said. Two different things.

You said and I quote, "



"It is patently proven and false that there was only peace and no riots before Obama and then suddenly there was."

Cut and paste where he said, or even implied, those words, ONLY peace and NO riots. He didn't, he even when on to explain that to you himself, using the term relative peace, etc... One might say he was a little sloppy with the riots began statement, but he meant recommenced I am pretty sure, after a period of relative peace, sure, interspersed with some flair ups, but not this ongoing stuff between races.

Deny it all you want, its recorded right here. Cut and paste please.

There was never, ever a period of peace. He lied about it, and now you have as well.

Repeating it, finding others to repeat the lie with doesn't make it any less of a lie.
 
I’m headed off to bed now, lads.

I have this thing that most of us call ‘a job’, and so I must go and get myself some sleep.

I do appreciate all the kind and thoughtful responses I have received this evening.

Your intelligence and graciousness is most appreciated.
And you who have displayed little-to-no intelligence and graciousness?
I appreciate your blind, rudderless energy.

You may not know exactly why you hate my words of truth, but they bother you, and you dutifully tilt at windmills anyway.
And your Party appreciates you carrying their water for them.

I’ll be up at 4:00 am tomorrow, and then so off to work by 5:45 am.

And if all goes well, I’ll be back home and in front of the computer by 5:00 pm.

Dispensing the truth, and helping to set you straight.
You’ll thank me later, once you figure things out for yourselves.
I can’t do it for you.
You will have to do it for yourselves.

Hope springs eternal.
;)
 
Racism has gotten a lot worse under Obama that is for sure, but it's mostly racism against whites.

In fact "Racism" is now just a term used by people that hate white people.

Here's the funniest bit about that: not only is that absolute nonsense, but as usual it's a claim that you cannot substantiate.

You may as well have said, "All elected officials in South Dakota are actually KLINGONS!!!"

It would be just as valid, and just as believable, given your pathological fear of black citizens.
 
Racism has gotten a lot worse under Obama that is for sure, but it's mostly racism against whites.

In fact "Racism" is now just a term used by people that hate white people.

or by those who find certain facts uncomfortable
 
I know, right?

These folks seem to think that claiming things without support, especially when issuing what they think is a verbal body slam... they seem to think that is debate and somehow magically adds real substance.

Regrettably not so... but those of us here to debate would actually enjoy what at least DR is attempting, even though he is deliberately skewing what you said, alleging you are saying something you have made plain you are not, just to fit what he will allow his mind to admit... a scenario in which he created that makes you look bad, it just doesn't fit the reality...

But hey, his buddies will applaud and give uncoordinated air high fives to one another... all falling on their faces. Most I will no longer even respond to generally, they got nothing but ad homs and lesser.

LOL! ^^^ Irony, Intergalactic Meathammer Ultra Ninja Level 10.

His first post that people have been responding to was completey w/out support.

I'd never expect you to understand that, of course, as you've amply demonstrated in the past.
 
Brown University turned down a kid I know because he was white, and they told him that the diversity at the university needed to be greater. He got a perfect score on the ACT.
 
There was never, ever a period of peace. He lied about it, and now you have as well.

Repeating it, finding others to repeat the lie with doesn't make it any less of a lie.
Relative peace. He said it, I have now said it, what do you not get about relative peace? Just wondering, do you simply not understand the term relative in this context?
 
Relative peace. He said it, I have now said it, what do you not get about relative peace? Just wondering, do you simply not understand the term relative in this context?

He did not use the word 'relative' in his original post.

You're compounding lie upon lie. How many can you stack up? I'm sure someone on here is a recordsetter. How long will you keep going before you realize I don't try to compete in that event?
 
He did not use the word 'relative' in his original post.

You're compounding lie upon lie. How many can you stack up? I'm sure someone on here is a recordsetter. How long will you keep going before you realize I don't try to compete in that event?
He clearly meant that and then admitted that is what he meant and yet you keep with the original as if that is somehow damning. You avoid the truth so you can continue to pounce on an error already amended... do you feel that somehow is justified and a show of intellectual integrity, do you? Or just generally allowed under "liberal" debate parameters?
 
He clearly meant that and then admitted that is what he meant and yet you keep with the original as if that is somehow damning. You avoid the truth so you can continue to pounce on an error already amended... do you feel that somehow is justified and a show of intellectual integrity, do you? Or just generally allowed under "liberal" debate parameters?

You've flip-flopped from explicitly insisting he actually said it, when he hadn't, to he meant it and condemning me for not psychically inferring what he meant instead of what he actually said. Does your behavior really seem reasonable to you?
 
LOL! ^^^ Irony, Intergalactic Meathammer Ultra Ninja Level 10.

His first post that people have been responding to was completey w/out support.

I'd never expect you to understand that, of course, as you've amply demonstrated in the past.
What do you not understand about my continued imprecations to you to take your unsophisticated sophistries elsewhere, those base coins simply have no purchase in my realm.

Raise your hands from that keyboard and step away from that reply button. You are specifically one of the ones I alluded to earlier.
 
You've flip-flopped from explicitly insisting he actually said it, when he hadn't, to he meant it and condemning me for not psychically inferring what he meant instead of what he actually said. Does your behavior really seem reasonable to you?
Cut and paste that as well... see, I have asked you to do that and you are unable. Know why? 'Cause what you are saying I or he said does not exist.

Its like blowing up a balloon and not tying it, letting it go... watching you loop around and around and around as you run out of hot air to spew. Hilarious. Keep it up, I am now beginning to enjoy its comic appeal.
 
What do you not understand about my continued imprecations to you to take your unsophisticated sophistries elsewhere, those base coins simply have no purchase in my realm.

Raise your hands from that keyboard and step away from that reply button. You are specifically one of the ones I alluded to earlier.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for proving my point and hilariously trying to sound sophisticated with a 10th grade vocabularly primer. There's been no sophistry here, you poor thing, other than with Sparky's post. Pity you're not intelligent enough to know that.

You make this too easy, and your English tutor likely wants his book back.
 
Raise your hands from that keyboard and step away from that reply button. You are specifically one of the ones I alluded to earlier.

Thanks for proving my point and hilariously trying to sound sophisticated with a 10th grade vocabularly primer. There's been no sophistry here, you poor thing, other than with Sparky's post. Pity you're not intelligent enough to know that.

You make this too easy, and your English tutor likely wants his book back.
I am sorry, did you say something? Not really.
 
I am sorry, did you say something? Not really.

Good of you to admit that you're just engaging in your usual braying, in full retreat and that your hypocrisy is your calling card.

Sorry to have exposed your poor English and rhetoric skills.

Like taking candy from a baby. Not at all surprising that you don't know when you're beaten.
 
Good of you to admit that you're just engaging in your usual braying, in full retreat and that your hypocrisy is your calling card.

Sorry to have exposed your poor English and rhetoric skills.

Like taking candy from a baby. Not at all surprising that you don't know when you're beaten.
BLAH BLAH banal BLAH.
 
Sorry you must constantly retreat from your own claims and eat your own words.

Good of you to admit defeat. I accept your surrender.

Good luck with your English lessons!
I understand English, I two other degrees and a minor in that specialization. You don't not seem to understand a clearly sent message of "buzz off dude" sent in multiple fashions so at least one of them should have hit you at some level of what seems a semi-consciousness. Maybe try some smelling salts to wake up?

I have said it plainly before several times. I will do it again for you. I have absolutely ZERO interest in trading mindless one uppers with you. You are abysmally poor at it, if you were the least bit clever maybe that would spark my interest. Or if you interspersed a bit of substance once in a while even. Or if you were telling truth.

But you are not, its just mindless assault mounted atop mindless assault ... so buzz off, por favor.
 
:shock::shock::shock:

I don't know what is more scary,that people believe this or that they are allowed to vote.

Source

I definitely have the feeling that racist antagonism has grown since Obama's first inauguration.
 
You have read his autobiographies, right?

Have you at least done that much study on this topic?
;)

Really? Maybe I should have read them. It's late now though, as he is almost gone.
 
I don't care much for Trump.
And I certainly don't care anything at all for Hillary.

Both Hillary and Trump could join hands, jump off a very tall building, and plunge to a messy end, and I would be quite happy.

That said;
I have lived many years in the US of A.
I remember the 1960's.
I recall distinctly 'Whites Only' and 'Coloreds Only' water fountains.

I remember what the spirit was in the days of the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960's.
I remember our admiration for Dr King, and his message of peaceable protest and steady progress.

And so progress took place.
Over the years, race relations got better.
Things were very much peaceable in this nation between blacks and whites.

Sure, there were professional extortionists and con-men like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson operating out and about.
But nobody with an IQ above 100 paid them any attention.
They were, after all, simple, shabby hucksters and race-baiting opportunists.


I traveled around the world in the 1970's, 1980's, and beyond.
My friends, white, black, yellow, whatever, we all got along.
I witnessed no quantifiable 'race issues' in the country for decades.

Sure, the poorest of urban-dwelling blacks remained poor, and crime was an issue, but the most foolish among them continued to listen to the dishonest politicians, and by and large voted Democrat.
And so their plight remained in a status quo state for years and years.

And then along came Barack Obama.
The Divider In Chief.
The Big Mac Daddy of racial agitation and race pandering.

And then so the riots began.
And the seeds of hatred and mistrust were planted once again.
They they grew and flourished.

And Barack Obama, with his innate hatred of all things and all peoples caucasian, reveled in the violence and the chaos.

The Black Lives Matter movement?
The riots?
The schism between blacks and whites?
The mistrust of cops on the part of blacks in America?

He owns this.
The helped to create and foster this.

And to what end you may well ask?
It's simple;

When a nation is divided and tearing at each other's throats, they are unlikely to pay attention to what the crooked politicians in Washington DC are doing.
The reckless spending, the crooked deals, the billions in cash and jobs going overseas.
The TRILLIONS in debt.

And worse yet, a division is created that practically GUARANTEES that angry blacks will continue to vote for the Party that lies to them and promises them things and favors, and cash, and benefits, and 'understanding' and compassion. The whole while screwing them royally at every turn.

It's all to pander for their votes.
Simply to get their votes.

It's shabby, it's intellectually dishonest, and it's tragic.
I've never witnessed anything so rotten and criminal in my entire lifetime.

:(


not good with truth are you
 
I definitely have the feeling that racist antagonism has grown since Obama's first inauguration.

I have witnessed unprecedented levels of bigotry emerge from the most partisan of conservatives since Obama's first inauguration. I am also observing more public outrage from citizens when police kill black people... you know, because it is now captured and shared more efficiently (clear image and limited time lag) than ever before.

How can a rational person blame any of that on Obama?
 
I understand English, I two other degrees and a minor in that specialization.

It clealy shows in your command of the written word. Wow.
But you are not, its just mindless assault mounted atop mindless assault ... so buzz off, por favor.

Sorry to have made you eat your own words and run, yet again.
 
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