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DamnYankee said:
The left doesn't want things to change. They like blacks where they are, on the plantation. And the more havoc they can cause, the better. What's wrong with lifting the poor among us up? What's wrong with building self reliance, self esteem, and repairing the family? What's wrong with teaching some values and allowing people to become prosperous and living life to the fullest?
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Of course the answer is there is nothing wrong with it. It's the founding principle of the United States.

The challenge is getting past the rhetoric formed for political advantage and manipulation.
 
manise said:
True, but up until the Roosevelt years blacks were almost evenly split between Democrats and Republicans. Herbert Hoover gave most blacks (and a lot of whites and others) the first big push into the Democratic Party for almost entirely economic reasons. Had blacks been able to register to vote in the South, you might have seen a much higher rate of Republican voting at least in local elections. At the end of WWII, Democratic President Harry Truman integrated the armed forces and began the long fight to overturn Jim Crow laws. Blacks rewarded those policies as well.

What was the Republican response? Mostly conservative economic policies against the New Deal and foot dragging on civil rights, especially among the growing conservative western wing of the Republican Party led by presidential candidate Barry Goldwater. The Republicans who supported civil rights were mostly east coast liberals like Dirkson and Nelson Rockefeller. You know, today's "RINOs." Blacks may someday view non "RINO" Republicans more favorably, but they haven't so far. I doubt that ignoring black concerns about police abuse or generalizing small riots to the entire black community and/or leadership of a city or state will win the Republican Party more than a tiny increase in black support.

Ironically, Trump has just started to listen to black complaints with his "very, very concerned" statement about the Tulsa, OK shooting. That's a first baby step in the right direction from a black perspective. Maybe.
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Really?

1866. The first civil rights act was passed by the 39th Congress with a huge Republican majority - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1866
1871. This act specifically went after the KKK. It was passed by the 42nd Congress which had a substantial Republican majority. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Enforcement_Act_of_1871
1875. The next Civil Rights act is passed by the 43rd congress which had a huge Republican majority in both houses. That act was overturned by the Supreme Court a dozen years later - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1875
1957. This act ended up being primarily a voting rights act because a certain senator from TX chopped out anything of substance. While it was passed by a Democrat congress feel free to check out the vote totals at the link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1957
1960. This act was proposed by Ike to shore up some of the stuff Johnson had scratched from the '57 act and was the first passed by a Democrat majority. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1960
1964. This is the one everybody knows and it was passed by a majority Democrat congress but, once again, I suggest you look at the vote totals - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
1968. This act is where the Democrats really expanded the role of the federal government. The '64 act opened the door but the '68 act kicked it down and burned it. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1968
1991. This was a fairly minor act that didn't do much more than expand Title VII penalties - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1991

I'd say there is a pretty fair argument to be made that the Republicans not only got the ball rolling on Civil Rights but pushed it through Democrat opposition the whole way.
 
Jesse Booth said:
Stop embarrassing yourself, Steve. I'm the default comic relief for this forum, and I'm far better at it than you are - although I appreciate the attempt to help out.
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Afraid of a little competition? ;)

With our country going down the drain with riots, terrorism, massive debt, etc, we could use some comic relief. I'll look for your posts, and they had better be funny or you'll get stark criticism from me. :2wave:
 
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DamnYankee said:
The left doesn't want things to change. They like blacks where they are, on the plantation. And the more havoc they can cause, the better. What's wrong with lifting the poor among us up? What's wrong with building self reliance, self esteem, and repairing the family? What's wrong with teaching some values and allowing people to become prosperous and living life to the fullest?
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Yes, yes, that totally fits with the facts of trying to make college affordable or even tuition-free, that's totally tyranny to keep blacks on plantations and away from prosperity. You've clearly thoroughly reasoned your argument!
 
DirtyRat said:
Yes, yes, that totally fits with the facts of trying to make college affordable or even tuition-free, that's totally tyranny to keep blacks on plantations and away from prosperity. You've clearly thoroughly reasoned your argument!
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Trying to make college free? ROTFLMAO Leftists have driven up the cost!!

Nothing is free but leftists think it is while they rob working families of their wealth in the form of excessive taxation. Yeah, clearly you haven't thought your ridiculous argument through. :)

Nice try though. ;)
 
DirtyRat said:
Yes, yes, that totally fits with the facts of trying to make college affordable or even tuition-free, that's totally tyranny to keep blacks on plantations and away from prosperity. You've clearly thoroughly reasoned your argument!
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Liberals always seem to attack a problem the wrong way, especially problems relating to money. Instead of burdening middle class taxpayers with forcing them to pay for the tuition of others. Why not dramatically lower the cost of college for everyone?

Did you every see what college professors make in salary and benefits? What college administrators make? It is horrendous compared to the actual work that they do.

Why not cut college professor's salaries in half, they would still be overpaid, they would still be making a lot of money, and college could be much more affordable for everyone.
 
Jesse Booth said:
Had it been possible under Jim Crow (alas, it was not - in fact, that's a large part of why the NRA wa formed), I would have advised blacks to stay armed, just as the OP suggested for this case. Thugs are afraid of armed resistance, and that's a truth that transcends race.
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It would have changed the whole development of society, had the Blacks armed themselves. I wonder, where we would now be.
 
Jesse Booth said:
Stop embarrassing yourself, Steve. I'm the default comic relief for this forum, and I'm far better at it than you are - although I appreciate the attempt to help out.
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That's right! You tell it as it is!
 
Stephen50right said:
Liberals always seem to attack a problem the wrong way, especially problems relating to money. Instead of burdening middle class taxpayers with forcing them to pay for the tuition of others. Why not dramatically lower the cost of college for everyone?

Did you every see what college professors make in salary and benefits? What college administrators make? It is horrendous compared to the actual work that they do.

Why not cut college professor's salaries in half, they would still be overpaid, they would still be making a lot of money, and college could be much more affordable for everyone.
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There is an enormous amount of un-necessary profits in the education system, they should ALL be removed.
 
What ever happen to rioters will be shot on sight?
 
joG said:
It would have changed the whole development of society, had the Blacks armed themselves. I wonder, where we would now be.
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I imagine the fight for civil rights would have been shorter, but also more aggressively opposed, if that makes any sense. As for what else would have changed after that, I can't even begin to imagine.

joG said:
That's right! You tell it as it is!
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Damn right I do! I see an opportunity to make a ****ty pun, and you can bet your ass I'm going to make a ****ty pun!
 
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