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Devastating blow to Snowden supporters as America rejects biopic

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Edward Snowden biopic crashes at box office | Fox News

[FONT=&quot]Maybe Edward Snowden’s next stunt will be learning to fly a plane. For "Snowden," Oliver Stone’s long-awaited biopic about the former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor who is now in Russia after leaking classified information in 2013, had a subpar U.S. box office unveiling.
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[FONT=&quot]"Snowden" was comfortably beaten by "Sully," Clint Eastwood’s movie starring Tom Hanks as Captain Chesley ‘Sully’ Sullenberger, the pilot whose emergency landing on the Hudson River in 2009 saved 155 passengers. Sully has now taken $70 million from 10 days, and over the weekend grossed almost triple "Snowden‘s" $8 million from 2,443 theaters.[/FONT]
Despite all the hooey over this traitor, Americans had ZERO interest in the movie. A folk hero he is not.

Oh, **** Snowden, btw that little bastard can rot in Russia till he dies.
 
Who cares? A movie doing poorly has nothing to do with Edward Snowden.
 
I'd rather stick a pencil in my neck than suffer through an Oliver Stone revisionist flick
 
I don't know if it's "Devastating", but you are certainly on the money that Snowden a traitor, and has earned nothing except a traitor's fate.

I was having fun with the title. While maybe not devastating it's certainly a set back to those wanting to promote him as some kind of common man hero we should get behind.
 
I was having fun with the title. While maybe not devastating it's certainly a set back to those wanting to promote him as some kind of common man hero we should get behind.

No, not really. It's only proof that people chose to spend their money either seeing something or doing something else.
 
If Tom Hanks had been in "Snowden," I'd have seen it. Who wouldn't choose to see a Tom Hanks movie over just about anything else?
 
No, not really. It's only proof that people chose to spend their money either seeing something or doing something else.

I think that it sends a pretty clear message that we'd rather see a movie celebrating a hero than a movie apologizing for a traitor.
 
Edward Snowden biopic crashes at box office | Fox News


Despite all the hooey over this traitor, Americans had ZERO interest in the movie. A folk hero he is not.

Oh, **** Snowden, btw that little bastard can rot in Russia till he dies.

Snowden revealed that our government is spying on us in the most hilariously unconstitutional ways possible, and he's the traitor. I've never managed to wrap my head around this.

Speaking just for myself, I'm not seeing the movie because not because of anything against Snowden, but because, well...I get it. The government's spying on us. And the government ****ing won, because instead of outrage over that fact we've grown bored of it.
 
Snowden revealed that our government is spying on us in the most hilariously unconstitutional ways possible, and he's the traitor. I've never managed to wrap my head around this.

Liberals hate the constitution and see nothing wrong with violating and outdated document written by slave traitors. They view Snowden as the traitor to their unconstitutional nanny state agenda.
 
Snowden revealed that our government is spying on us in the most hilariously unconstitutional ways possible, and he's the traitor. I've never managed to wrap my head around this.

Speaking just for myself, I'm not seeing the movie because not because of anything against Snowden, but because, well...I get it. The government's spying on us. And the government ****ing won, because instead of outrage over that fact we've grown bored of it.


Snowden doesn't give a **** about that. He fled to Russia--- a place with a much longer and darker history of massive spying on the populace. He's a hypocrital scumbag at best.
 
Snowden doesn't give a **** about that. He fled to Russia--- a place with a much longer and darker history of massive spying on the populace. He's a hypocrital scumbag at best.

Snowden didn't spend several months scouting out his dream exile destination.

And claiming he doesn't give a **** about government spying requiring a breathtaking lack of knowledge of the story.
 
Edward Snowden biopic crashes at box office | Fox News


Despite all the hooey over this traitor, Americans had ZERO interest in the movie. A folk hero he is not.

Oh, **** Snowden, btw that little bastard can rot in Russia till he dies.

I can't fathom how anyone can defend a traitor who runs to Russia of all places. How's their record?
May be they can send him to Siberia and turn it into a reality show. That I might watch.
 
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I'd rather stick a pencil in my neck than suffer through an Oliver Stone revisionist flick

Agreed. You can't make documentaries like this while the situation is still ongoing. I thought the same way about "W" and refused to see it for the same reason. Oliver Stone is a hack and anyone who went to see the movie was a fool.
 
Snowden doesn't give a **** about that. He fled to Russia--- a place with a much longer and darker history of massive spying on the populace. He's a hypocrital scumbag at best.
He fled to Russia because it doesn't have an extradition treaty with the U.S. Whenever someone mentions "he fled to RUSSIA/CHINA" as a way to slam him then I know they're an ignorant person.
 
Snowden revealed that our government is spying on us in the most hilariously unconstitutional ways possible, and he's the traitor. I've never managed to wrap my head around this.

Speaking just for myself, I'm not seeing the movie because not because of anything against Snowden, but because, well...I get it. The government's spying on us. And the government ****ing won, because instead of outrage over that fact we've grown bored of it.

In addition to uncovering proof of what you and I both deplore about our government, Snowden also took a hell of a lot, a treasure trove of data for our enemies, of classified information with him when he ran straight to China, and then to Russia where he still resides, with whom both he shared all the classified information that he took. In no way can he be held as anything other than a spy and a traitor. We can hold our government in contempt for infringing upon our Constitutional rights to privacy, and at the same time abhor Snowden for his traitorous acts of espionage that put our entire country at risk. They're not mutually exclusive.
 
Snowden didn't spend several months scouting out his dream exile destination.

And claiming he doesn't give a **** about government spying requiring a breathtaking lack of knowledge of the story.

Fleeing to a country where the exact same ****, only to the nth degree, is going on shows exactly how much government spying really factors into Snowden's decision making. In short-- it doesn't.

Just like Assange, Snowden seems to feel he's above the law--- his actions shouldn't have consequences.
 
He fled to Russia because it doesn't have an extradition treaty with the U.S. Whenever someone mentions "he fled to RUSSIA/CHINA" as a way to slam him then I know they're an ignorant person.

So what? These are still regimes which do a hell of a lot more spying on their populace than the US government does.

Just because one feels their a special snowflake and shouldn't have to pay for what they've done doesn't mean that they get a free pass on heading straight for countries which don't like us with important info.
 
Fleeing to a country where the exact same ****, only to the nth degree, is going on shows exactly how much government spying really factors into Snowden's decision making. In short-- it doesn't.

Just like Assange, Snowden seems to feel he's above the law--- his actions shouldn't have consequences.

Snowden is not Assange, not by a mile. And as I said, Snowden didn't exactly spend several months scouting out his dream exile destination.
 
I love how loyal people are to their governments. The guy basically shows the government doesn't give a **** about your privacy or the law of the land and many of you consider him a traitor. Sorry, but how exactly isn't that the behavior of someone that is brainwashed?
 
Snowden revealed that our government is spying on us in the most hilariously unconstitutional ways possible, and he's the traitor. I've never managed to wrap my head around this.

Had Snowden stopped there, he might have had a case that what he did - while illegal - flowed from decent motives.

Unfortunately, he didn't stop there. Instead he downloaded several laptops worth of our most closely guarded secrets, and took them to first China and then Russia. He didn't just release the Metadata program, he also released how we tracked attack plotting from al-Qa'ida and the Taliban. He released how we collected against other government intentions, like, for example, the Russians. Where I work, we have several people who had to be.... hurriedly removed from overseas places as soon as we realized that he had given their names up to the people who they were collecting against. They are forbidden to travel to significant chunks of the globe for the rest of their life, because if they go there, they'll get picked up. The NSA was hugely set back by the destruction that Snowden left in his wake - when you burn a SIGINT collection capability, you generally burn the entire program.

Snowden isn't a traitor primarily because he released the Metadata. He's a traitor because he helped the Taliban improve their ability to kill US Servicemembers overseas and then became an agent of a foreign nation with the intent of doing as much damage to US foreign policy as possible.
 
In addition to uncovering proof of what you and I both deplore about our government, Snowden also took a hell of a lot, a treasure trove of data for our enemies, of classified information with him when he ran straight to China, and then to Russia where he still resides, with whom both he shared all the classified information that he took. In no way can he be held as anything other than a spy and a traitor. We can hold our government in contempt for infringing upon our Constitutional rights to privacy, and at the same time abhor Snowden for his traitorous acts of espionage that put our entire country at risk. They're not mutually exclusive.

Things did not unfold in the most ideal manner possible. But at the end of the day, when you condemn the government's spying within the framework of Snowden being a traitor, your condemnation of the government is tepid at best, as is evident with the fact the American public has more or less accepted said spying with a yawn.
 
Had Snowden stopped there, he might have had a case that what he did - while illegal - flowed from decent motives.

Unfortunately, he didn't stop there. Instead he downloaded several laptops worth of our most closely guarded secrets, and took them to first China and then Russia. He didn't just release the Metadata program, he also released how we tracked attack plotting from al-Qa'ida and the Taliban. He released how we collected against other government intentions, like, for example, the Russians. Where I work, we have several people who had to be.... hurriedly removed from overseas places as soon as we realized that he had given their names up to the people who they were collecting against. They are forbidden to travel to significant chunks of the globe for the rest of their life, because if they go there, they'll get picked up. The NSA was hugely set back by the destruction that Snowden left in his wake - when you burn a SIGINT collection capability, you generally burn the entire program.

Snowden isn't a traitor primarily because he released the Metadata. He's a traitor because he helped the Taliban improve their ability to kill US Servicemembers overseas and then became an agent of a foreign nation with the intent of doing as much damage to US foreign policy as possible.

Yes, I've read that. And my best response to that is, "That's really unfortunate." And I'm not being snarky.
 
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