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Obama, Black Lives Matter Sued for "Igniting a Race War"

Absentglare said:
Let me get this straight, your logic is "if it happens at a TLM rally, President Obama is directly responsible" and you DON'T see a problem with that ?!?!?!
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I didn't say directly responsible, I said he supports it. If Obama was inviting the KKK to diner at the white house you wouldn't think he supports their cause? Obama should have come out and renounced TLM and made it perfectly clear that violence against police will NOT be tolerated.
 
Obama, Black Lives Matter Sued for "Igniting a Race War"

blaxshep said:
I didn't say directly responsible, I said he supports it. If Obama was inviting the KKK to diner at the white house you wouldn't think he supports their cause? Obama should have come out and renounced TLM and made it perfectly clear that violence against police will NOT be tolerated.
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Good, then you agree that President Obama is not legally culpable from some ridiculous accusation that President Obama's own speech magically provokes "imminent lawless action."
 
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Absentglare said:
Good, then you agree that President Obama is not legally culpable from some ridiculous accusation that President Obama's own speech magically provokes "imminent lawless action."
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Legally no, but he is still inciting this behavior by aligning himself with the movement.
 
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blaxshep said:
Legally no, but he is still inciting this behavior by aligning himself with the movement.
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You're free to that opinion but the notion that he's legally responsible is ridiculous. The burden is far higher than that.
 
Re: Obama, Black Lives Matter Sued for "Igniting a Race War"

Absentglare said:
You're free to that opinion but the notion that he's legally responsible is ridiculous. The burden is far higher than that.
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No question, these politicians today, know how to circumvent the law.
 
Black Lives is a loosely knit group of folks with “chapters” all around the US….

Black Lives Movement is NOT black Lives Matter…….

Black Lives Matter is a movement……. Not a thing
The Movement for Black Lives is not to be confused with Black Lives Matter….
So too it is the same for …… the Movement for Black Lives, and the Black Led Movement Foundation……no connection……no relationship…… and all have different mission statements……The 3 are not the same or related……..
And it does matter……legally they are separate entities and the 3 you mention are non-profit corporations……… Black Lives Matter Foundation is not part of or associated with Black Lives Matters
The Black-Led Movement Fund [BLMF] is not Black Lives Matter…..BLFM is a separate and distinct 501©3 non-profit funded by the Borealis Philanthropy……….AND HADS NO connection with Black Lives Matter………
Black Lives Matter has no offices………….
Black Lives Matter has only a Twitter account(s) for sharing and communication
There is no Black Lives Matter 990 Non-Profit report on file
There is no “Black Lives Matter is registered as a 501(c) 3 with the IRS

Black Lives Matters has no officers
Black Lives Matter does not have a national spokesperson
Back Lives Matters has no CEO or board of Directors
Black Lives Matter takes no corporate donations
Black Lives Matter has no annual budget

As I have stated “Black Lives Matter is a loosely knit group of folks who share the same goals and hope to focus attention on the problems of young black men………..

Black Lives Matters has become a “whipping boy” of the alt-right movement promoting racial bigotry……
Below is a list of false and malicious rumors and charges made against Black Lives Matter outlined and reported by Snopes

Black Lives Matter
Black Lives Matter Archives | Snopes.com

Now you can chose to believe me or not.............. but there is no question Black Lives Matter has become the "reed meat" of all types of bigots, racists and other types of degenerates
 
Kobie said:
Yeah, good luck proving that in court.
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Well, the threats is part of BLM and the group has been endorsed by all of those people. Of course, not that anything will actually stick, but link is there.
 
Kobie said:
Yeah, and circumstantial evidence tends to get thrown out or utterly ignored by the courts the vast majority of the time, and for very good reason -- because it's not directly tied to the merits of the case.
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Not in civil cases. You don't have to prove beyond doubt in civil cases. Why do you think OJ never saw jail time but had to pay $25 million?
 
Kobie said:
This is the kind of garbage that people resort to when they are beaten and have nothing else to attack. I've been here three years, consistently. Political forums are my outlet so I don't blow people up on Facebook when they post wingnut idiocy. My post count is none of your business and has no bearing on the validity of my arguments. In short, you lose.

I accept your concession. Good day, sir.
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You know, you could blow up on people on FB as well as use this as an outlet, right? It's fun.
 
ecofarm said:
People that dream of a race war and seek anything to indicate one is coming are sick mother****ers.

There will be no race war. If someone thinks there will be, that person is a racist (or a pawn of racists). End of story.
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So...when when we have people talking about not burning and rioting in their own neighborhoods but going out to the suburbs to do it to them, that doesn't mean anything to you? When you have people looking into cars driving by to see if they are white or not, in order to pull them out and assault them, that doesn't mean anything to you?

There won't be a literal all out war but there is a conflict of sorts brewing.
 
Fishking said:
So...when when we have people talking about not burning and rioting in their own neighborhoods but going out to the suburbs to do it to them, that doesn't mean anything to you? When you have people looking into cars driving by to see if they are white or not, in order to pull them out and assault them, that doesn't mean anything to you?

There won't be a literal all out war but there is a conflict of sorts brewing.
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So you're dreaming of a race war and confirmation bias makes everything point to one. Yeah, that's not disconnected from reality and racist. haha
 
ecofarm said:
So you're dreaming of a race war and confirmation bias makes everything point to one. Yeah, that's not disconnected from reality and racist. haha
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Dreaming? What are you talking about? Everything I wrote is a fact. I can see how you may confuse facts with racism, though. I mean, really, you have nothing else going for you.
 
Fishking said:
Dreaming? What are you talking about? Everything I wrote is a fact. I can see how you may confuse facts with racism, though. I mean, really, you have nothing else going for you.
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Living in a fantasy world of race war (or race skirmish) is racist. You paint all blacks by the actions of a few criminals - that's racist. No doubt.
 
ecofarm said:
Living in a fantasy world of race war (or race skirmish) is racist. You paint all blacks by the actions of a few criminals - that's racist. No doubt.
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I'll bet you paint all Nazis with the same brush, but the fact is in WWII there were many fine citizens that were Nazis that didn't hate Jews at all.
 
ecofarm said:
Living in a fantasy world of race war (or race skirmish) is racist. You paint all blacks by the actions of a few criminals - that's racist. No doubt.
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Who said all? News flash, what % of the population actually participates in real wars? Well, our current military is composed of less than 1% of the population so...try again, tiger, and make sure to say everything is racist again. I think if you say it a few more times, it might magically come true, like saying Bloody Mary in the mirror three times.
 
blaxshep said:
I'll bet you paint all Nazis with the same brush, but the fact is in WWII there were many fine citizens that were Nazis that didn't hate Jews at all.
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I'm aware that Hitler never had more than 33% of the vote/parliament (under a very watered-down platform, with no extremism or racism) and he then seized power illegally. This resulted in many citizens claiming to support the Nazi party in order to not be killed.

So what?

Labeling all blacks according to the actions of a few criminals is racist.
 
Fishking said:
Who said all? News flash, what % of the population actually participates in real wars? Well, our current military is composed of less than 1% of the population so...try again, tiger, and make sure to say everything is racist again. I think if you say it a few more times, it might magically come true, like saying Bloody Mary in the mirror three times.
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We all participate in US wars, through taxes and various other means of support. Do all blacks support a few black criminals? No.

Labeling all blacks by the actions of a few criminals is racist. End of story.
 
ecofarm said:
We all participate in US wars, through taxes and various other means of support. Do all blacks support a few black criminals? No.
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To say this is specious is an understatement.

Labeling all blacks by the actions of a few criminals is racist. End of story.
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Agreed. When someone does that, we can call them out for it.
 
LowDown said:
They are not an organization? But they have their own web site. They are accepting donations. They claim to be the "Official" organization. They are organized into chapters.

Google "Black Led Movement Foundation" and it comes up Black Lives Matter. The linked articles make it clear that Black Lives Matter, the Movement for Black Lives, and the Black Led Movement Foundation are all intertwined and interrelated, all having essentially the same purpose.

Whether they get support under the name Black Lives Matter or some other name doesn't matter. It's all the same ball of wax. Over at Fortune they appear to regard MFBL and BLM as the same, and they get funding from the Ford Foundation, among others. BLMF is a parent organization of MFBL.
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Believe as you wish........... add them to your "Boogieman" list of people and groups to be frightened of............or the ones who are out to get ya........

No matter to me..........
 
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