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Why do we need a president?

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I am seriously confused as to why we need a president. I see the presidents position as obsolete in this day and age. We have the ability to communicate our ideas and opinions more so than ever. Considering a president is supposed to be someone who carries out the will of the people, I consider the need for a president to be unnecessary. I see no reason that the people can't create a system and a process for any political area they see a need. I am not saying we have a system and a process that would eliminate the need for a talking head, I am saying that we more than likely could eliminate the need for a talking head if we did have a system and a process in place.

This is nothing more than a thought, but I found it to be an interesting thought.
 
Pozessed said:
I am seriously confused as to why we need a president. I see the presidents position as obsolete in this day and age. We have the ability to communicate our ideas and opinions more so than ever. Considering a president is supposed to be someone who carries out the will of the people, I consider the need for a president to be unnecessary. I see no reason that the people can't create a system and a process for any political area they see a need. I am not saying we have a system and a process that would eliminate the need for a talking head, I am saying that we more than likely could eliminate the need for a talking head.

This is nothing more than a thought, but I found it to be an interesting thought.
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:2brickwal How did you make it out of High School without being taught about Checks and Balances??? Do you really think that the President's only role is as America's Spokesman???
 
Pozessed said:
I am seriously confused as to why we need a president. I see the presidents position as obsolete in this day and age. We have the ability to communicate our ideas and opinions more so than ever. Considering a president is supposed to be someone who carries out the will of the people, I consider the need for a president to be unnecessary. I see no reason that the people can't create a system and a process for any political area they see a need. I am not saying we have a system and a process that would eliminate the need for a talking head, I am saying that we more than likely could eliminate the need for a talking head if we did have a system and a process in place.

This is nothing more than a thought, but I found it to be an interesting thought.
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I've often thought the same thing about companies / corporations. Even few years we get rid of our CEO by paying him millions of dollars to go away after he just about ruins the company and we usually go for many months without a CEO and everything runs just as well without one. So do we just have nothing to replace the President or are you thinking a council of some kind?
 
Pozessed said:
I am seriously confused as to why we need a president. I see the presidents position as obsolete in this day and age. We have the ability to communicate our ideas and opinions more so than ever. Considering a president is supposed to be someone who carries out the will of the people, I consider the need for a president to be unnecessary. I see no reason that the people can't create a system and a process for any political area they see a need. I am not saying we have a system and a process that would eliminate the need for a talking head, I am saying that we more than likely could eliminate the need for a talking head if we did have a system and a process in place.

This is nothing more than a thought, but I found it to be an interesting thought.
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"Why do we still need oxygen?"

Seriously? The whole point is checks and balances between branches of government, and the executive branch is not obsolete in *ANY* context of the word.
 
blaxshep said:
I've often thought the same thing about companies / corporations. Even few years we get rid of our CEO by paying him millions of dollars to go away after he just about ruins the company and we usually go for many months without a CEO and everything runs just as well without one. So do we just have nothing to replace the President or are you thinking a council of some kind?
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It would definitely have to be a council. The most informed, educated, and experienced people for any situation should be the people making the most important decisions. There would have to be a system that ensures the people in power have the best intent for their people, as well as way to hold those accountable that do not.
 
faithful_servant said:
:2brickwal How did you make it out of High School without being taught about Checks and Balances??? Do you really think that the President's only role is as America's Spokesman???
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I may not agree with you on much but on this I do. The President does far more than just be a spokesman for the US. One such example would be that he/she directs our Military. Something that a group of politicians cannot do properly. Particularly in times of emergency.
 
blaxshep said:
I've often thought the same thing about companies / corporations. Even few years we get rid of our CEO by paying him millions of dollars to go away after he just about ruins the company and we usually go for many months without a CEO and everything runs just as well without one. So do we just have nothing to replace the President or are you thinking a council of some kind?
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A computer obviously, let's call it "skynet" it's a very catchy name
 
OrphanSlug said:
"Why do we still need oxygen?"

Seriously? The whole point is checks and balances between branches of government, and the executive branch is not obsolete in *ANY* context of the word.
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faithful_servant said:
:2brickwal How did you make it out of High School without being taught about Checks and Balances??? Do you really think that the President's only role is as America's Spokesman???
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Those checks and balances don't seem to be boding well with the American people.
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OrphanSlug said:
"Why do we still need oxygen?"

Seriously? The whole point is checks and balances between branches of government, and the executive branch is not obsolete in *ANY* context of the word.
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While you are right, the idea of checks and balances gets weaker with every Crony Capitalist elected and every SC nomination they make. If Hillary appoints 3 liberals the C&B on her reign will be all but eliminated.

Vote Republican for Congress! Obstructionism is the last stand of the C&B system that still functions.
 
Kal'Stang said:
I may not agree with you on much but on this I do. The President does far more than just be a spokesman for the US. One such example would be that he/she directs our Military. Something that a group of politicians cannot do properly. Particularly in times of emergency.
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Does he not have people working for him that are informing and instructing him? If he does, those people should be in charge. If he does not, he is uninformed and uninstructed. The people informing and instructing him are the ones who will make the best lead role for that position IMO.
 
Pozessed said:
Does he not have people working for him that are informing and instructing him? If he does, those people should be in charge. If he does not, he is uninformed and uninstructed.
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The ones that are informing him are military generals. There's a reason that we have a civilian directing our military and not the generals of the military. Just look around the world for evidence of what its like for a military run completely by generals and you'll see why we have a civilian run ours.
 
Pozessed said:
I am seriously confused as to why we need a president. I see the presidents position as obsolete in this day and age. We have the ability to communicate our ideas and opinions more so than ever. Considering a president is supposed to be someone who carries out the will of the people, I consider the need for a president to be unnecessary. I see no reason that the people can't create a system and a process for any political area they see a need. I am not saying we have a system and a process that would eliminate the need for a talking head, I am saying that we more than likely could eliminate the need for a talking head if we did have a system and a process in place.

This is nothing more than a thought, but I found it to be an interesting thought.
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It's like with companies. Most have leaders. Those that don't, don't thrive.
 
blaxshep said:
I've often thought the same thing about companies / corporations. Even few years we get rid of our CEO by paying him millions of dollars to go away after he just about ruins the company and we usually go for many months without a CEO and everything runs just as well without one. So do we just have nothing to replace the President or are you thinking a council of some kind?
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It is not proof. But if life or organization forms that have existed and been attempted no longer do, that is usually because they don't work as well as the competing ones.
 
Kal'Stang said:
The ones that are informing him are military generals. There's a reason that we have a civilian directing our military and not the generals of the military. Just look around the world for evidence of what its like for a military run completely by generals and you'll see why we have a civilian run ours.
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I am not suggesting our military would not have to answer to a civilian/civilians. I am pointing out that having one person as a talking head is unnecessary. The final decision should rely on the most educated and experienced person on any given subject. It seems obvious to me that one person can not be versed in everything that is necessary to structure a country. Delegation is key for any large corporation. As is having the right people choosing who delegates what. We don't need an "almighty delegater" which aside from a talking head is all a president does.
 
joG said:
It is not proof. But if life or organization forms that have existed and been attempted no longer do, that is usually because they don't work as well as the competing ones.
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The best organizations are the ones that can delegate well. The CEO is not always the one who delegates, many times they just choose who will do the delegating and focus on what they do best for the organization.
 
Pozessed said:
The best organizations are the ones that can delegate well. The CEO is not always the one who delegates, many times they just choose who will do the delegating and focus on what they do best for the organization.
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Very true. But it does not provide evidence that the CEO is not required.
 
joG said:
Very true. But it does not provide evidence that the CEO is not required.
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I like when Capitalists defend the outrageous CEO salaries, "He makes the big decisions" I've been in the fortune 500 for 20 years and I can tell you that's not how it works. When a big decision is needed without exception a third party "expert" is called in to develop the solution and the CEO just signs off on it. Pretty much any bum living under a bridge can do that.
 
Pozessed said:
I am seriously confused as to why we need a president. I see the presidents position as obsolete in this day and age. We have the ability to communicate our ideas and opinions more so than ever. Considering a president is supposed to be someone who carries out the will of the people, I consider the need for a president to be unnecessary. I see no reason that the people can't create a system and a process for any political area they see a need. I am not saying we have a system and a process that would eliminate the need for a talking head, I am saying that we more than likely could eliminate the need for a talking head if we did have a system and a process in place.

This is nothing more than a thought, but I found it to be an interesting thought.
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We need a POTUS because we live this charade in which everybody believes we enjoy constitutional governance, and the constitution requires POTUS.

Today he is seen as only a Commander-In-Chief for our lucrative and self-destructive Global War On Terror, so we need somebody to approve those weekly kill lists for the drone operators.

Plus, somebody has to pardon the turkey at Thanksgiving time.
 
Pozessed said:
I am seriously confused as to why we need a president. I see the presidents position as obsolete in this day and age. We have the ability to communicate our ideas and opinions more so than ever. Considering a president is supposed to be someone who carries out the will of the people, I consider the need for a president to be unnecessary. I see no reason that the people can't create a system and a process for any political area they see a need. I am not saying we have a system and a process that would eliminate the need for a talking head, I am saying that we more than likely could eliminate the need for a talking head if we did have a system and a process in place.

This is nothing more than a thought, but I found it to be an interesting thought.
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Wat.

The only good form of government is one with multiple branches; ergo - legislature, executive, and judiciary.
 
Thoreau72 said:
We need a POTUS because we live this charade in which everybody believes we enjoy constitutional governance, and the constitution requires POTUS.

Today he is seen as only a Commander-In-Chief for our lucrative and self-destructive Global War On Terror, so we need somebody to approve those weekly kill lists for the drone operators.

Plus, somebody has to pardon the turkey at Thanksgiving time.
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Lets not forget the "President" gets his marching orders from the collective elite Oligarchy. The people need the wizard so they don't look behind the curtain.
 
blaxshep said:
Lets not forget the "President" gets his marching orders from the collective elite Oligarchy. The people need the wizard so they don't look behind the curtain.
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Very well put. The public responds nicely and predictably to sleight-of-hand and deception.
 
blaxshep said:
I like when Capitalists defend the outrageous CEO salaries, "He makes the big decisions" I've been in the fortune 500 for 20 years and I can tell you that's not how it works. When a big decision is needed without exception a third party "expert" is called in to develop the solution and the CEO just signs off on it. Pretty much any bum living under a bridge can do that.
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No reason to "defend outrageous CEO salaries" to the public. If the shareholders are willing to pay, it is like with actors, sports stars and inventors. Someone pays for it, it should be assumed okay.
 
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