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Bad week for Hillary

Fishking said:
2. He didn't talk about anything classified and the media was already all over covering the briefings so that was a stupid point.

3. Also stupid and not an issue.
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Trump delivered the ultimate cheap shot- "I'm gonna tell ya something awful about Obama, but I can't. Didn't really hear it, but I'm good with body language". He is again willing to spread fear and anxiety to serve his goals, with no regard for the truth. And not incidentally, he also insulted the professionalism of the security officers in question. CIA director Brennen denied the claims. You think this is presidential material? It is the methodology of a weasel.

Fishking said:
5-7. Is being investigated we we got a case of a premature ejaculation.
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There is nothing premature about Trump's illegal use of funds to pay the campaign of Florida's solicitor general, he was fined for it. What was not proven, but hangs in the air like a black cloud, is the link between the donation and Florida prosecutors dropping of a case against Trump university. His other improper uses of charity funds has been documented by the Washington Post; legal actions may be pending. Just this section alone would have been enough to sink a campaign in more ethical times.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...8cce64-75df-11e6-8149-b8d05321db62_story.htmlhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-donald-trump-retooled-his-charity-to-spend-other-peoples-money/2016/09/10/da8cce64-75df-11e6-8149-b8d05321db62_story.html

Fishking said:
8. *yawn*
10. *yawn*
11. *yawn* the interviewer specifically was asking about his building.
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Sure. The great patriot in front of the good ol' boys down at the legion, but this sort of cynical and smirking comment is more characteristic.

Fishking said:
12. Isn't anywhere to be found.
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Another cheap shot. Easy,isn't it? He was there, maybe picked up a brick, too much turmoil at the time to verify anything.

Fishking said:
13. Could be talking about people he would see and run into, which Trump hyperbole could be calling friends (he calls everyone friends it seems). His building is down there so he probably saw people that died there often.
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Could be none or one or two or a dozen, the point is that Trump is not above using tragedy for political point scoring, again not exactly admirable traits for the top job in the nation.

Fishking said:
And...I got board.
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You got "bored". A board is something you surf on. And if you are bored and yawning, maybe you should pay attention, so that you can make an intelligent vote, instead of just a knee jerk reaction.

Just one or two of these events should be enough to seriously question, if not discard the Trump bit for the White House. And next to it you have an offhand comment that is probably true, even if not politically correct, and a bout of illness. Should be something to wake you up there.
 
Kobie said:
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Lol...I'm serious. I mean, it's not for lack of trying but it just doesn't stick. We have stupid stuff like libtard and democrap, that's just childish and looks dumb.

The people who do that do not represent "the left" in any capacity. I, for one, find their behavior idiotic.
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Well, they do, sadly. You may not like it but they are part of the left and their concepts are growing and becoming more pervasive.
 
Ganesh said:
Trump delivered the ultimate cheap shot- "I'm gonna tell ya something awful about Obama, but I can't. Didn't really hear it, but I'm good with body language". He is again willing to spread fear and anxiety to serve his goals, with no regard for the truth. And not incidentally, he also insulted the professionalism of the security officers in question. CIA director Brennen denied the claims. You think this is presidential material? It is the methodology of a weasel.
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That's not the ultimate cheap shot. That's nothing to comment on. Obama says way worse stuff about Trump, out in the open and in foreign countries. If, for some strange reason, Trump wins Obama will have undermined the office.

Sure. The great patriot in front of the good ol' boys down at the legion, but this sort of cynical and smirking comment is more characteristic.
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He gave an interview with one of the greatest American media personalities of the history of our nation. I fail to see a problem here.

Another cheap shot. Easy,isn't it? He was there, maybe picked up a brick, too much turmoil at the time to verify anything.
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It isn't anywhere to be found, as in, I didn't find anywhere where Trump made that claim.

Could be none or one or two or a dozen, the point is that Trump is not above using tragedy for political point scoring, again not exactly admirable traits for the top job in the nation.
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Neither of the two candidates have admirable traits so that's a wash.

And if you are bored and yawning, maybe you should pay attention, so that you can make an intelligent vote, instead of just a knee jerk reaction.

Just one or two of these events should be enough to seriously question, if not discard the Trump bit for the White House. And next to it you have an offhand comment that is probably true, even if not politically correct, and a bout of illness. Should be something to wake you up there.
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There isn't much of an intelligent vote. I'm going 3rd party to help break the two party monopoly a little bit more but I'm not a fan of Johnson, either. Ron Paul was my pick previously and Rand wasn't too bad, either.
 
Fishking said:
That's not the ultimate cheap shot. That's nothing to comment on. Obama says way worse stuff about Trump, out in the open and in foreign countries. If, for some strange reason, Trump wins Obama will have undermined the office.



He gave an interview with one of the greatest American media personalities of the history of our nation. I fail to see a problem here.



It isn't anywhere to be found, as in, I didn't find anywhere where Trump made that claim.



Neither of the two candidates have admirable traits so that's a wash.



There isn't much of an intelligent vote. I'm going 3rd party to help break the two party monopoly a little bit more but I'm not a fan of Johnson, either. Ron Paul was my pick previously and Rand wasn't too bad, either.
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Deflection and rationalization. At least now you are not bored. Please don't vote for Johnson though, he is a nutbar who would transform the US into an experimental society based on corporate feudalism. Today's inequality in society- already fueling social unrest, as some of these pages testify- would skyrocket under Johnson's policies, and he would likely crash the economy into another great depression. He is clueless about economic matters, and probably thought up his policies while buzzed on pot, which he apparently likes.
 
tres borrachos said:
People don't listen to anyone who criticizes Trump?
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Pretty much. They cried wolf so many times, over stupid stuff, that the legitimate criticism gets drowned out.
 
Ganesh said:
Deflection and rationalization. At least now you are not bored. Please don't vote for Johnson though, he is a nutbar who would transform the US into an experimental society based on corporate feudalism. Today's inequality in society- already fueling social unrest, as some of these pages testify- would skyrocket under Johnson's policies, and he would likely crash the economy into another great depression. He is clueless about economic matters, and probably thought up his policies while buzzed on pot, which he apparently likes.
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Of course. That will happen because he's a total free trade person. That doesn't change the fact that he won't win but my supporting him will help push something not a D or R.

Back to the topic, Trump is less dangerous than Hillary. If I had a gun put to my head to pick those two it would be Trump, hands down.
 
Fishking said:
Of course. That will happen because he's a total free trade person. That doesn't change the fact that he won't win but my supporting him will help push something not a D or R.

Back to the topic, Trump is less dangerous than Hillary. If I had a gun put to my head to pick those two it would be Trump, hands down.
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A vote for Johnson is actually a vote for the Democrats, as it will split the looney vote.

Personally, I doubt that Trump will get the chance to be very dangerous. There are far too many people, with untold billions parked in the US, or in US controlled entities, to allow a buffoon to put all their loot at risk. I suspect that not long into a Trump presidency, some general, of chief of staff, or some other near the top of the food chain will take on a new and pivotal role as "adviser", and Mr Trump appear as pensive and thoughtful, but subdued, in future appearances, which will likely be few.
 
Ganesh said:
A vote for Johnson is actually a vote for the Democrats, as it will split the looney vote.

Personally, I doubt that Trump will get the chance to be very dangerous. There are far too many people, with untold billions parked in the US, or in US controlled entities, to allow a buffoon to put all their loot at risk. I suspect that not long into a Trump presidency, some general, of chief of staff, or some other near the top of the food chain will take on a new and pivotal role as "adviser", and Mr Trump appear as pensive and thoughtful, but subdued, in future appearances, which will likely be few.
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Agreed, except from what I've seen the looney vote that is getting split is Hillary. All the polls I've seen put Trump closer or even over Hillary when Johnson is included.
 
blaxshep said:
Agreed, except from what I've seen the looney vote that is getting split is Hillary. All the polls I've seen put Trump closer or even over Hillary when Johnson is included.
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RCP average currently shows the same split (Clinton +2.4), with or without Johnson, so it looks like he's pulling votes from either side about equally. Stein would be the one that would pull from Hillary the most.
 
TheGoverness said:
Well, considering Hillary's lead in the polls nationally is continuing to narrow, and this Health issue has become a pressing issue of this election season, I'd say her week's been less-than-satisfactory.
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No no no. You're doing it wrong. You supposed to look at the propaganda viral image from hyper partisan people and ignore anything it doesn't directly indicate. Silly person.
 
Fishking said:
RCP average currently shows the same split (Clinton +2.4), with or without Johnson, so it looks like he's pulling votes from either side about equally. Stein would be the one that would pull from Hillary the most.
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Oh, yea, that might be what I'm seeing.
 
Threegoofs said:
Seems like you could have referenced....one.
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Boy did you nail him on that one. The deplorables all love to call Hillary a liar, but when pressed, they can never name a single one!
 
Fishking said:
Pretty much. They cried wolf so many times, over stupid stuff, that the legitimate criticism gets drowned out.
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Actually, you're wrong, but I understand your defense of Trump. I know a lot of people who listen to criticism of Trump. In fact, except for the hardened partisans who have deluded themselves into thinking Trump actually is a Republican, most people listen to criticism of Trump, just like most people listen to criticism of Clinton.
 
tres borrachos said:
Actually, you're wrong, but I understand your defense of Trump. I know a lot of people who listen to criticism of Trump. In fact, except for the hardened partisans who have deluded themselves into thinking Trump actually is a Republican, most people listen to criticism of Trump, just like most people listen to criticism of Clinton.
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Let me amend, then. No open minded person listens to the BS anymore. The choir still listens, though.
 
Fishking said:
Let me amend, then. No open minded person listens to the BS anymore. The choir still listens, though.
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The people who don't plan to vote for Trump are "the choir". And you people who do plan to vote for Trump are what...enlightened?
 
Hillary's bad week was only bad by the double standard now routinely applied. Trump is likely to win the election at the rate things are going with Hillary tripped up by the smallest misstep and Trump skating over one disgrace after another.
 
JackA said:
Hillary's bad week was only bad by the double standard now routinely applied. Trump is likely to win the election at the rate things are going with Hillary tripped up by the smallest misstep and Trump skating over one disgrace after another.
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The soft bigotry of low expectations. Trump is being graded on a curve. Every time that sack of rancid pork doesn't puke on himself, it's considered a Good Day For The Trump Campaign.
 
Kobie said:
The soft bigotry of low expectations. Trump is being graded on a curve. Every time that sack of rancid pork doesn't puke on himself, it's considered a Good Day For The Trump Campaign.
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"Low" in more ways than one. Trump is expected to be ignorant and unpracticed. But half the public and most of the media woukd feel let down if he suddenly cleaned up his act and stopped being outrageous with some disgusting thrown in. Hard for Hillary to
compete in that setup.
 
tres borrachos said:
The people who don't plan to vote for Trump are "the choir". And you people who do plan to vote for Trump are what...enlightened?
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Nope. You don't have to be a Trump supporter to recognize bull****.
 
The love affair that some people seem to be having with Hillary will be over the moment she takes office. That's the day she stops campaigning for herself and goes back to being just another employee at Goldman Sachs.
 
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